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Klopp after LFC

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Just allow Pep Ljinders to take us for a year. Mandate will be to just keep us in the top 4 and let Jurgen have a break for a year. Don't know why clubs don't do this more often.

The idea of offering a sabbatical seems a good one in principle but I'm not sure it would work for us in practice, as I'm far from convinced about Lijnders stepping in. He crashed and burned in his one and only go at a far less pressurised management job in Holland.
 
The idea of offering a sabbatical seems a good one in principle but I'm not sure it would work for us in practice, as I'm far from convinced about Lijnders stepping in. He crashed and burned in his one and only go at a far less pressurised management job in Holland.
All part of the learning curve.

On the first point, we should have let (encouraged) Dalglish take a sabbatical back in 1991; Ronnie Morn would have held the fort and been happy to step aside to let Kenny back in
 
Can't vouch for it but I heard shortly afterwards that we tried to do just that and the great man wasn't having it, feeling just too hollowed out by what he'd been through.

As far as Lijnders is concerned, sorry but I'd want him (or anyone) to have got the necessary learning under their belt before, not after, becoming manager of LFC, even on a caretaker basis. As I said, I like the principle of it but you still need the right individuals in the right positions to make it work.
 
Can't vouch for it but I heard shortly afterwards that we tried to do just that and the great man wasn't having it, feeling just too hollowed out by what he'd been through.

As far as Lijnders is concerned, sorry but I'd want him (or anyone) to have got the necessary learning under their belt before, not after, becoming manager of LFC, even on a caretaker basis. As I said, I like the principle of it but you still need the right individuals in the right positions to make it work.
I actually read the opposite.
Kenny fairly quickly changed his mind about permanently quitting but he was given the impression that he wasn't wanted back
 
Thommo did a good job when stepping in for Ged yet he never seems to have had a subsequent desire to be the main man
 
Just allow Pep Ljinders to take us for a year. Mandate will be to just keep us in the top 4 and let Jurgen have a break for a year. Don't know why clubs don't do this more often.

We should certainly entertain this possibility and Pep is well placed to continue Klopp's legacy, IMO. That said, I strongly suspect Klopp will return to Germany and end up coaching the national team for a couple of tournaments for retiring.
 
I actually read the opposite.
Kenny fairly quickly changed his mind about permanently quitting but he was given the impression that he wasn't wanted back

That's pretty much what I understood too, that Kenny quit, and told the club he wouldn't be changing his mind then went off on holiday. When he came back he HAD changed his mind but by then Souness had been appointed so that was that.

Can't really blame the club for that of course but I think there were one or two other times since then when the club suggested he returned but changed their minds. Pretty shabby treatment in some ways really but it worked out fine in the end.

As for Thompson, I am guessing he probably would have taken the job had Houllier not returned and I'm sure he could've got a job elsewhere but I imagine he was only interested in Liverpool. He was also on TV a lot back then so was probably happy enough with that.
 
I actually read the opposite.
Kenny fairly quickly changed his mind about permanently quitting but he was given the impression that he wasn't wanted back

I don't think we're disagreeing here. After the King turned down the club's suggestion they accepted what seemed to be the inevitable and moved on, then by the time his change of heart took place it was too late. They did initially put it to him though.
 
I don't think we're disagreeing here. After the King turned down the club's suggestion they accepted what seemed to be the inevitable and moved on, then by the time his change of heart took place it was too late. They did initially put it to him though.

I also heard that.
 
Can't vouch for it but I heard shortly afterwards that we tried to do just that and the great man wasn't having it, feeling just too hollowed out by what he'd been through.

As far as Lijnders is concerned, sorry but I'd want him (or anyone) to have got the necessary learning under their belt before, not after, becoming manager of LFC, even on a caretaker basis. As I said, I like the principle of it but you still need the right individuals in the right positions to make it work.

I heard an interview with someone who was at NEC at the same time as Pep; he said that it was a classic case of someone who could work brilliantly with top players trying to train up lesser players without the benefit of much time in which to do it. I'm not sure if that was the main reason for his failure there, but I agree about doubting him as Klopp's successor. Some people are just great coaches and/or great assistants. I suspect Pep is back doing what he does best now.
 
As much as we would like it based upon the last 5 years, we would all love him to stay longer, but just can't see it. I'm sure he has said 7 years is a good time as manger at a club. He will go back to Germany, maybe to be national coach or back to Mainz (sentimental), but see him giving up on coaching completely.

Interested to see how nagelsmann continues to progress, he looks a top coach in making and would be my choice if klopp was leaving tomorrow. Also interested to see how Stevie continues north of border.
 
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Hopefully (HOPEFULLY!) when Klopp does go we will be in the rare position of being able to get a new manager in who can take over a winning squad and not feel they have to massively rebuild it. We've literally not had that for 35 years.
 
As much as we would like it based upon the last 5 years, we would all love him to stay longer, but just can't see it. I'm sure he has said 7 years is a good time as manger at a club. He will go back to Germany, maybe to be national coach or back to Mainz (sentimental), but see him giving up on coaching completely.

Interested to see how nagelsmann continues to progress, he looks a top coach in making andLand would be my choice if klopp was leaving tomorrow. Also interested to see how Stevie continues north of border.

So will I (he's already done a fair bit better than I expected TBH) but I'd need some convincing that doing well at Rangers, or in the Scottish League in general, would be suitable prep for the LFC job. The Souness precedent isn't exactly encouraging.
 
As much as we would like it based upon the last 5 years, we would all love him to stay longer, but just can't see it. I'm sure he has said 7 years is a good time as manger at a club. He will go back to Germany, maybe to be national coach or back to Mainz (sentimental), but see him giving up on coaching completely.

Interested to see how nagelsmann continues to progress, he looks a top coach in making andLand would be my choice if klopp was leaving tomorrow. Also interested to see how Stevie continues north of border.
i reckon Pep will go before Klopp. He looks to be on the point of burn-out.
 
If Klopp 100% wants to leave in 2024, maybe we will go after one of the managers coming out of the Red Bull lineup. Nagelsmann is the one in the limelight now. Another possibility is Marco Rose - played under Klopp in Mainz, coached Mainz, did well with RB Salzburg, and currently, the manager of Monchengladbach. It will also be interesting to see how Hassenhuttl develops at Southampton.

"I trust Marco in everything," Klopp told Rose while he was a guest on German TV.
"Marco can have any job and could do any job too, he is really the most hyped [coach] of all at the moment, everyone is asking about you." The high-tempo, attack-minded philosophy Rose instilled in Salzburg — his team have scored 15 more goals than any other side in the Austrian top flight this season — has more than a touch of Klopp's influence.

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bunde...-monchengladbachs-inbound-new-head-coach-3651
 
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