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an article on Klopp's decision to hire a throw in coach last season


Jurgen Klopp's ridiculed decision proven right by remarkable Liverpool improvement

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp was ridiculed when it was announced he had hired throw-in specialist Thomas Gronnemark last August.

At the time of the appointment, former Everton striker Andy Gray took a swipe at the German manager
Speaking on beIN Sports, the pundit sneered: "I’m sorry, a throw-in coach? Here’s the ball, pick it up with both hands, take it behind your head and throw it with both feet on the ground.
"I’ve got a new one for you, I want to be the first kick-off coach."

But new figures now show since Gronnemark's arrival at the club Liverpool have vastly improved their success rate and possession retention when taking throw-ins.

Statistics from the 2018/19 campaign - highlighted by Tifo Football - show the Reds have gone from rivalling relegation bound clubs to becoming the most productive team at retaining possession from throws in Europe's top five leagues.

Remarkably, this transformation took place over the course of the Dane's debut season at Melwood.

Liverpool went from being the third worst throw-in takers in the Premier League to winning the ball back from throws taken under pressure 68.4 per cent of the time.

The only club repping a better percentage in Europe is FC Midtjylland.
Interestingly, the two-time Danish champions - who boast a 70.2% possession retainment rate - are also coached by the 43-year-old.

In 2017/18, before the Dane joined Klopp's staff, Liverpool retained the ball 45.4 per cent and were only above now-relegated sides Swansea City and Huddersfield Town in the list of optimal throwers.
The Reds allowed opposition teams to win the ball back 51.8 per cent of the time.
Gronnemark, who recently announced he will remain at the club for the 2019/20 season, has helped Liverpool fine tune their throw-in game.
So much so, Andy Robertson in particular has saw his throwing range increase by 11 metres.
The Scottish left-back can now throw the ball a whopping 30 metres.




30 metres? seriously?
he can throw a ball farther than i can kick.

on a more serious note, whenever i watched the game, up until the last game, vs burnley, i do wonder what our throw in coach had contributed to our game. and i will still won't notice any difference after this.

that's why Klopp hires him not Andy Gray, i guess.
 
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Next up - introducing "deflection" coaches - how to increase your chance of scoring from a surprise bounce in the box. Coach *Rick O'Shea* will increase your goal percentages...
 
Yep the very one. My point is... let me spell it out for you, is that he gets too involved with what Rangers are doing and has a mouth on him. Fuck what he has won, even a muppet like you would win 5 in a row at that club.

Well you certainly needed to point that out because the point you just made above doesn’t relate at all to your previous post. Maybe you need to have coke, smile and shut the fuck up.
 
an article on Klopp's decision to hire a throw in coach last season


Jurgen Klopp's ridiculed decision proven right by remarkable Liverpool improvement

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp was ridiculed when it was announced he had hired throw-in specialist Thomas Gronnemark last August.

At the time of the appointment, former Everton striker Andy Gray took a swipe at the German manager
Speaking on beIN Sports, the pundit sneered: "I’m sorry, a throw-in coach? Here’s the ball, pick it up with both hands, take it behind your head and throw it with both feet on the ground.
"I’ve got a new one for you, I want to be the first kick-off coach."

But new figures now show since Gronnemark's arrival at the club Liverpool have vastly improved their success rate and possession retention when taking throw-ins.

Statistics from the 2018/19 campaign - highlighted by Tifo Football - show the Reds have gone from rivalling relegation bound clubs to becoming the most productive team at retaining possession from throws in Europe's top five leagues.

Remarkably, this transformation took place over the course of the Dane's debut season at Melwood.

Liverpool went from being the third worst throw-in takers in the Premier League to winning the ball back from throws taken under pressure 68.4 per cent of the time.

The only club repping a better percentage in Europe is FC Midtjylland.
Interestingly, the two-time Danish champions - who boast a 70.2% possession retainment rate - are also coached by the 43-year-old.

In 2017/18, before the Dane joined Klopp's staff, Liverpool retained the ball 45.4 per cent and were only above now-relegated sides Swansea City and Huddersfield Town in the list of optimal throwers.
The Reds allowed opposition teams to win the ball back 51.8 per cent of the time.
Gronnemark, who recently announced he will remain at the club for the 2019/20 season, has helped Liverpool fine tune their throw-in game.
So much so, Andy Robertson in particular has saw his throwing range increase by 11 metres.
The Scottish left-back can now throw the ball a whopping 30 metres.




30 metres? seriously?
he can throw a ball farther than i can kick.

on a more serious note, whenever i watched the game, up until the last game, vs burnley, i do wonder what our throw in coach had contributed to our game. and i will still won't notice any difference after this.

that's why Klopp hires him not Andy Gray, i guess.
I’m with you. I wasn’t against the idea of a throwin specialist coaching at LFC, primarily because TAA was absolute shite at them, but didn’t think I was seeing an improvement watching on last season. Guess I was wrong.
I wonder how far his coaching goes. Is it just the throwers or is he coaching the rest of the team in terms of movement and positioning?
 
Next up - introducing "deflection" coaches - how to increase your chance of scoring from a surprise bounce in the box. Coach *Rick O'Shea* will increase your goal percentages...
I wonder if it’s really true about George Best one day deciding to take a one-touch training game into his own hands by flicking the ball onto opposition players and eventually scoring all on his own without his teammates ever touching the ball.
 
Tell you what, it very well could be. The greatest footballer I've ever seen - could do anything and everything Pele, Maradona, Messi and the rest have been able to do since AND tackled like an earth remover to win the ball himself when he got bored without it. No-one else has ever had his range of skills, nor ever will again.
 
Tell you what, it very well could be. The greatest footballer I've ever seen - could do anything and everything Pele, Maradona, Messi and the rest have been able to do since AND tackled like an earth remover to win the ball himself when he got bored without it. No-one's EVER had his range of skills, nor ever will again.
He never really seemed to get the same recognition as the first two. Was it because of his relatively short career? Loads of people that actually saw him play say the same as you. My uncle, probably around the same age as you (105) has always said the same thing.
Unfortunately I’ve only ever seen the odd highlights of him.
 
He never really seemed to get the same recognition as the first two. Was it because of his relatively short career? Loads of people that actually saw him play say the same as you. My uncle, probably around the same age as you (105) has always said the same thing.
Unfortunately I’ve only ever seen the odd highlights of him.

A variety of reasons, I suspect: partly half a career wasted, partly short memories, partly the fact that he was British and the others were from exotic S.America, partly the fact that he played international football for a side which (sorry Doc) was never going to win anything, unlike Brazil and Argentina. None of that matters a hoot AFAIC. To me only one criterion matters - what range of abilities could each player offer at his, er, best? By that yardstick Best beats the lot, IMO of course.
 
His club allegiance doesn't help, admittedly, but if you'd seen him play there's no way you could deny him the accolade.
 


This one hints at something interesting. This team has the mentality of a team that "grinds out" victories combined with a skill-set of a team that "blows away" opposition. So we aim for consistency, hard work and respect for each opponent like a "grind out team" would, but once we get a hold of the game (like we did after the first 25 minutes vs Newcastle) we usually have the quality to score more than once, which is why 1:0 is a pretty rare scoreline for us.
 
[article]Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp is mulling over his new contract negotiations after his agent revealed the English weather is a concern for him.

The German is currently contracted until 2022
and has gone on record to say he will honour the full length of his contract - as he did at former clubs Mainz and Borussia Dortmund.

But the Liverpool boss, who won the club's sixth European Cup last season after defeating Spurs 2-0 in Madrid, is said to have reservations about extending his current deal due to the weather conditions in England.

Marc Kosicke, Klopp's agent, explained to Spox that the weather is a factor in the manager's consideration.

'Jurgen's contract is still valid until 2022 and it is an open secret that the club would like to extend,' Kosicke said.

'We still have a little time for that. We must wait and see how everything develops and whether climate change will bring better weather to England or only to Germany.'

While in Germany, Klopp would escape the dark mornings and evenings by jetting off on holiday during the annual two-week winter break.

However, the quick-fire nature of the Premier League's fixture schedule means the German hasn't been able to enjoy such luxuries, although the first winter break of its kind is coming to England this season.

'One should not underestimate it (bad weather annoying Klopp), anyway. I remember that in November or December, Liverpool first asked for a contract extension. I said: "Let's wait".

'Ulla (Klopp's wife) and Jurgen get up in the morning and it's dark. When they meet again in the evening, it is also dark or it is grey and there is drizzle.'

Liverpool's top brass will be keen to tie Klopp down to a longer deal, with the boss taking the club on an upward trajectory since taking over at Anfield in October 2015.

The Reds sit at the top of the Premier League table after the opening five games of the campaign. [/article]
 
[article]Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp is mulling over his new contract negotiations after his agent revealed the English weather is a concern for him.

The German is currently contracted until 2022
and has gone on record to say he will honour the full length of his contract - as he did at former clubs Mainz and Borussia Dortmund.

But the Liverpool boss, who won the club's sixth European Cup last season after defeating Spurs 2-0 in Madrid, is said to have reservations about extending his current deal due to the weather conditions in England.

Marc Kosicke, Klopp's agent, explained to Spox that the weather is a factor in the manager's consideration.

'Jurgen's contract is still valid until 2022 and it is an open secret that the club would like to extend,' Kosicke said.

'We still have a little time for that. We must wait and see how everything develops and whether climate change will bring better weather to England or only to Germany.'

While in Germany, Klopp would escape the dark mornings and evenings by jetting off on holiday during the annual two-week winter break.

However, the quick-fire nature of the Premier League's fixture schedule means the German hasn't been able to enjoy such luxuries, although the first winter break of its kind is coming to England this season.

'One should not underestimate it (bad weather annoying Klopp), anyway. I remember that in November or December, Liverpool first asked for a contract extension. I said: "Let's wait".

'Ulla (Klopp's wife) and Jurgen get up in the morning and it's dark. When they meet again in the evening, it is also dark or it is grey and there is drizzle.'

Liverpool's top brass will be keen to tie Klopp down to a longer deal, with the boss taking the club on an upward trajectory since taking over at Anfield in October 2015.

The Reds sit at the top of the Premier League table after the opening five games of the campaign. [/article]

Hmmm he is growing older and if the climate cause a consern and he want to spend life elsewhere I will still be grateful for all he does for us. He is implementing a winning culture and I trust he will work with us to ensure his ideas live on. Maybe 7 years is a good length for him to stay.
 
A variety of reasons, I suspect: partly half a career wasted, partly short memories, partly the fact that he was British and the others were from exotic S.America, partly the fact that he played international football for a side which (sorry Doc) was never going to win anything, unlike Brazil and Argentina. None of that matters a hoot AFAIC. To me only one criterion matters - what range of abilities could each player offer at his, er, best? By that yardstick Best beats the lot, IMO of course.
Yeah, completely agree. We remember Pele because of World Cups, and most of the footage of him that survives was of him in a Brazil strip. Northern Ireland didn't qualify for any major tournaments during the Best years, sadly. If he played for a major international nation we would have plenty more footage of him doing his incredible thing.
 
Christ. He's whooshed you all
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I honestly thought he was serious, but I was never upset after reading the article today as I totally get why someone would want to live somewhere like Spain. That said, I bet Real Madrid were like cumming in their pants if they got sniff of that article...
 
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