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Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

*walks into thread*

*trips over Farky & localny*

Frogfish you cunt, you turned the lights off!
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

[quote author=localny link=topic=41783.msg1176363#msg1176363 date=1284738872]
Reports just in Hicks Failed in Refinancing Attempt - Soccernet/Harry harris
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=823998&sec=england&cc=5901


[size=11pt]Liverpool reject Hicks power play[/size]

By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

September 17, 2010

Liverpool have rejected a proposed refinancing strategy from co-owner Tom Hicks that could have given the American increased control at Anfield

Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton turned down Tom Hick's proposal.

Hicks personally delivered his proposal direct to the Liverpool board in a showdown meeting ahead of the club's Europa League tie, and was told that his plans were not acceptable.

In fact, Hicks was left in no doubt of the board's resolve to find new owners and end his turbulent reign - alongside fellow American George Gillett - at the Premier League giants.

Hicks wants to buy out the £237 million Royal Bank of Scotland debt which is threatening to end his joint ownership of the club when the facility expires on deadline of October 6. He is hoping to raise funds from US banks to raise the funds to buy out RBS, possibly using the players and stadium as collateral.

Hicks has moved to thwart the possibility of RBS temporarily taking control of Liverpool and selling it off at a rock bottom price, far less than Hicks and Gillett believed it to be worth when they originally put the club up for sale at £800 million a year ago.

The price has since plummeted and might now be worth as little as £150 million. With no creditable buyer yet in public sight, Hicks is trying desperately to retain control, if not total control, and hold out in the hope of finding someone who will pay more later.

With Gillett's finances in a parlous state, and with the possibility that he might default on other loans and ultimately lose his 50% stake in Liverpool, his partner Hicks is attempting to refinance alone and gain total control.

The Liverpool board are having none of that, believing an extension of the Hicks and Gillett ownership, even if it reverts to Hicks, would only prolong the financial misery.
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If this is true, it's great news in a number of ways. Obv.it's a good thing that Broughton has what it takes to play hardball with that fat chancer, but it also suggests that the debt to RBS is owed (on paper at any rate) by the club, in which case Broughton, Purslow and Ayre do have the power to block refinancing, AND it would suggest that they've made their minds up not to be deflected from doing so by threats of legal action.

Please, please let this be true.
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

if the board rejected this refinancing, this is GOOD and BIG NEWS. It's over to RBS for a sale, with only the possibility of a lawsuit as the only remaining Hicks and Gillett shadow....right?
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=41783.msg1176380#msg1176380 date=1284740411]
[quote author=localny link=topic=41783.msg1176363#msg1176363 date=1284738872]
Reports just in Hicks Failed in Refinancing Attempt - Soccernet/Harry harris
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=823998&sec=england&cc=5901


[size=11pt]Liverpool reject Hicks power play[/size]

By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

September 17, 2010

Liverpool have rejected a proposed refinancing strategy from co-owner Tom Hicks that could have given the American increased control at Anfield

Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton turned down Tom Hick's proposal.

Hicks personally delivered his proposal direct to the Liverpool board in a showdown meeting ahead of the club's Europa League tie, and was told that his plans were not acceptable.

In fact, Hicks was left in no doubt of the board's resolve to find new owners and end his turbulent reign - alongside fellow American George Gillett - at the Premier League giants.

Hicks wants to buy out the £237 million Royal Bank of Scotland debt which is threatening to end his joint ownership of the club when the facility expires on deadline of October 6. He is hoping to raise funds from US banks to raise the funds to buy out RBS, possibly using the players and stadium as collateral.

Hicks has moved to thwart the possibility of RBS temporarily taking control of Liverpool and selling it off at a rock bottom price, far less than Hicks and Gillett believed it to be worth when they originally put the club up for sale at £800 million a year ago.

The price has since plummeted and might now be worth as little as £150 million. With no creditable buyer yet in public sight, Hicks is trying desperately to retain control, if not total control, and hold out in the hope of finding someone who will pay more later.

With Gillett's finances in a parlous state, and with the possibility that he might default on other loans and ultimately lose his 50% stake in Liverpool, his partner Hicks is attempting to refinance alone and gain total control.

The Liverpool board are having none of that, believing an extension of the Hicks and Gillett ownership, even if it reverts to Hicks, would only prolong the financial misery.
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If this is true, it's great news in a number of ways. Obv.it's a good thing that Broughton has what it takes to play hardball with that fat chancer, but it also suggests that the debt to RBS is owed (on paper at any rate) by the club, in which case Broughton, Purslow and Ayre do have the power to block refinancing, AND it would suggest that they've made their minds up not to be deflected from doing so by threats of legal action.

Please, please let this be true.
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I know mate. right now, it's just Harry Harris and soccernet (crossed fingers, toes, and 'ead)
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

This is super news. It looks like the Yank cunts are being choked to death. Nothing would give me greater footballing satisfaction than seeing those clowns booted out with a major loss.
 
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It's only good news if they can get rid of the cunt, which is far from guaranteed.
 
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if this news is true, is a giant step for "getting rid".
 
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If this news is true - well done Martin Broughton and the rest of the board who are fighting against this duplicitous cunt.
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

Can someone not just run those American bastards over?

I hope that Hicks fails to get any additional loans or extensions.

We need to rid ourselves of those parasites asap!
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=41783.msg1176368#msg1176368 date=1284739562]
*walks into thread*

*trips over Farky & localny*

Frogfish you cunt, you turned the lights off!
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Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

From Sporting Intelligence. More good news (won't get financing!!)

[[size=12pt]b]REVEALED: The bank that Tom Hicks wants to fund his Liverpool bid (and why he’ll probably fail)
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By Nick Harris

17 September 2010

Tom Hicks, the co-owner of Liverpool who is desperate to cling to ownership and control of the club despite being unwilling or unable to invest major resources in its future, is hoping he will find funding to refinance the club’s debt from the global investment firm Blackstone, and specifically its GSO Capital Partners subsidiary, sportingintelligence has learned.

GSO’s own section of the Blackstone website describes it as “one of the largest credit-oriented alternative asset managers in the world and a major participant in leveraged finance.†Hicks has worked with Blackstone before.

Hicks and his co-owner George Gillett are widely perceived to be in their dying days in control of a club they took over in February 2007 with promises of a new stadium and a bright future for the club; neither have yet materialised. It was obvious within a year that something was badly wrong. Instead, the club owes RBS Bank at least £237m (it could be as high as £280m now) and that debt is due to be repaid or refinanced in October.

Gillett is almost certainly finished at the club and has reportedly accepted as much; he is struggling to repay money he borrowed in American to part-fund his Liverpool venture.

But Hicks still believes he can find cash to refinance the RBS debt, and he hopes it will come from GSO, a scenario that will horrify supporters who want the Americans out.

From the fans’ perspective, a ray of optimism comes from the fact that Hicks would have to meet conditions to borrow from GSO that he seems unlikely to be able to meet, relating to conditions set by Liverpool’s board.

If he wants to borrow from any source to refund the debt, he will, as a matter of course, need to give some security against the new borrowed money. Sportingintelligence understands that if he attempted to offer the asset of Liverpool (the club) as security, then the board – and specifically Martin Broughton, Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre – can and will vote against such a proposal.

In other words, Hicks won’t be able to borrow any money using Liverpool as security.

But if he were able to produce another asset as security, he may indeed be able to borrow the cash and attempt a refinancing. There is no obvious other asset in his troubled portfolio of interests, although as with all things related to the saga of Liverpool’s ownership, there are bound to be more twists yet.

The board has already prevented one attempt by Gillett this summer to refinance using Liverpool as an asset.

Broughton and Purlsow insist they are committed to find the right buyer for the club, someone with money to reduce the debt and also start work on the proposed new stadium. The search for such an owner is ongoing.
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

This soap opera is more depressing, tragic than an Easters Christmas special.

I wish I had a vague idea of how it was going to play out.
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

This rumour is doing the rounds on other forums:

Look this name up - Stefan Persson - was at the game last night. May be coincidence but SoS said that potential owners representatives would be attending the game, if im not mistaken.
 
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41783.msg1176497#msg1176497 date=1284754526]
This rumour is doing the rounds on other forums:

Look this name up - Stefan Persson - was at the game last night. May be coincidence but SoS said that potential owners representatives would be attending the game, if im not mistaken.
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He may buy our 'franchise' and move it to Linkenholt. Linkenholt FC.
 
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=41783.msg1176500#msg1176500 date=1284754690]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41783.msg1176497#msg1176497 date=1284754526]
This rumour is doing the rounds on other forums:

Look this name up - Stefan Persson - was at the game last night. May be coincidence but SoS said that potential owners representatives would be attending the game, if im not mistaken.
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He may buy our 'franchise' and move it to Linkenholt. Linkenholt FC.
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If the owners refinance, supporting Linkenholt FC might be our only option...
 
Re: Merged Topics: Club Refinance Thread

They have no toilets in H&M stores. The other week I was with my daughter on the 3rd floor of their store on 34th street and when she had to pee I had to leave the store and go to GAP across the road. So if they take over you may have to pop over to Goodison at half time for a piss. Unless you buy on of those sports catheters.

http://www.biorelief.com/store/stadiumpal.html
 
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[quote author=DBP link=topic=41783.msg1176503#msg1176503 date=1284754939]
http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/LFC,-BarCap-and-Re_Financing.html

It's time SOS stopped getting such a bad rep on here, from what I can see they're the only group actively trying to expose what's going on behind the scenes.
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Good on them for this. I've nothing against their objectives merely some of the methods employed in the past. This info is quite alarming though
 
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City supporter at work reckons we need to step it up if we're to get the Yanks out and revert back to 70's / 80's football hooliganism on their asses. Firebomb their houses and what not in the same way City fans did to what's his name.. Swale?

Gave me a brief insight of what it might be like to work with Dantes.
 
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Didn't some City bad boys pay Swales mum a visit or something to put the frighteners on Swales ? Apparently it worked.
 
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=41783.msg1176512#msg1176512 date=1284755556]
Didn't some City bad boys pay Swales mum a visit or something to put the frighteners on Swales ? Apparently it worked.
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Whaddapie lives in Dallas, doesn't he?
 
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=41783.msg1176511#msg1176511 date=1284755460]
City supporter at work reckons we need to step it up if we're to get the Yanks out and revert back to 70's / 80's football hooliganism on their asses. Firebomb their houses and what not in the same way City fans did to what's his name.. Swale?

Gave me a brief insight of what it might be like to work with Dantes.
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Haha.

Unfortunately I suspect Hicks is made of sterner stuff than Swales. Anyone doing such a thing to him would likely get a return visit.
 
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SoS have been unintentionally harmful to the club by being overtly political and therefore alienating the vast majority of supporters, whom would love nothing better than to be rid of the scum currently running the club. Even in that link they talk of being "the only true opposition" etc ... A few hundred fans when with a bit more imagination they could have been a few hundred thousand. It's sad that people so committed should be so glimmered to the damage that their own self serving militancy has caused, right intentions, wrongly thought out and executed. They set themselves out as overtly political and their was no need for that, even invoking Shankly, presumptuous and divisive when we really needed, NEED, inclusive consensus. Only the stubborn or the cynical can still support the current regime and yet as of yet not one meaningful protest has occurred ... That's the sad legacy of SoS.
 
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=41783.msg1176505#msg1176505 date=1284755057]
They have no toilets in H&M stores. The other week I was with my daughter on the 3rd floor of their store on 34th street and when she had to pee I had to leave the store and go to GAP across the road. So if they take over you may have to pop over to Goodison at half time for a piss. Unless you buy on of those sports catheters.

http://www.biorelief.com/store/stadiumpal.html
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A rolled up Echo has always been the answer, the piss used to flood down the old kop and 'water' the pitch.
 
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[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=41783.msg1176561#msg1176561 date=1284760624]
SoS have been unintentionally harmful to the club by being overtly political and therefore alienating the vast majority of supporters, whom would love nothing better than to be rid of the scum currently running the club. Even in that link they talk of being "the only true opposition" etc ... A few hundred fans when with a bit more imagination they could have been a few hundred thousand. It's sad that people so committed should be so glimmered to the damage that their own self serving militancy has caused, right intentions, wrongly thought out and executed. They set themselves out as overtly political and their was no need for that, even invoking Shankly, presumptuous and divisive when we really needed, NEED, inclusive consensus. Only the stubborn or the cynical can still support the current regime and yet as of yet not one meaningful protest has occurred ... That's the sad legacy of SoS.
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It's all very well saying that the majority share the same sentiments, but its blindingly obvious that the majority aren't doing anything about it other than giving lip service.

There's an article on BBC sport about the Bundesliga and German fans boycotting matches this weekend due to raised ticket prices and it mentions how militant the German fans are compared to Liverpool/Man Utd fans (the two clubs most affected by leveraged takeovers)

It's a sympton of the British public in general, hence why this Country is gradually going down the Big Brother society route...
 
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=41783.msg1176516#msg1176516 date=1284755769]
Yes, we could have him call around and talk about Bono.
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Wasn't that himself earlier and now it's changed to Bono 😉.

I'd go around and talk about bono's contribution to society! You can talk about Eminem's contribution! (end tangent)
 
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