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Re: Club Refinance Thread
Didn't Hicks have around 800m and own a baseball team?
(although I do like the Red Sox)
Didn't Hicks have around 800m and own a baseball team?
(although I do like the Red Sox)
Re: Club Refinance Thread
Mars bars aren't 'shit'
Although real men eat Buttons and Milky Bars
Mars bars aren't 'shit'
Although real men eat Buttons and Milky Bars
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189377#msg1189377 date=1286311621]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189374#msg1189374 date=1286311544]
\"Henry, 55, set the stage for victory by aggressively boosting revenues after he and his partners -- including TV producer Tom Werner and veteran baseball exec Larry Lucchino -- bought the Red Sox for a record $690 million in early 2002. They made the most of Fenway Park, the oldest stadium in Major League Baseball, by squeezing in more seats and then charging the highest prices for home games,\"
[/quote]
That is the bit I didn\'t like.
[/quote]
They still sell out for every single game. 81 home games in season btw.
I was going to mention there being a number of similarities between the Red Sox and us, the historic stadium being one of them as mentioned in the article.
I\'d be quite happy if Henry did take over. Anyone holding out for a benevolent billionaire is fooling themselves.
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189377#msg1189377 date=1286311621]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189374#msg1189374 date=1286311544]
\"Henry, 55, set the stage for victory by aggressively boosting revenues after he and his partners -- including TV producer Tom Werner and veteran baseball exec Larry Lucchino -- bought the Red Sox for a record $690 million in early 2002. They made the most of Fenway Park, the oldest stadium in Major League Baseball, by squeezing in more seats and then charging the highest prices for home games,\"
[/quote]
That is the bit I didn\'t like.
[/quote]
They still sell out for every single game. 81 home games in season btw.
I was going to mention there being a number of similarities between the Red Sox and us, the historic stadium being one of them as mentioned in the article.
I\'d be quite happy if Henry did take over. Anyone holding out for a benevolent billionaire is fooling themselves.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
Your honour, the defence would like to present Exhibit A.
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
Your honour, the defence would like to present Exhibit A.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
They were gonna make a new Fenway Park but people kicked off so they just kept the old one.
They were gonna make a new Fenway Park but people kicked off so they just kept the old one.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189388#msg1189388 date=1286311984]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
Your honour, the defence would like to present Exhibit A.
[/quote]
Never eaten them but I know they taste shit just by the name.
How many times do I have to tell you.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189388#msg1189388 date=1286311984]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
Your honour, the defence would like to present Exhibit A.
[/quote]
Never eaten them but I know they taste shit just by the name.
How many times do I have to tell you.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
Now it's actually come to this... going to Anfield has felt a lot like going round to your ex birds to pick up the CDs and Tshirts lately, a miserable event with memories of happier times but maybe the chance of the odd shag. I hadn't been able to think of her the same since she got a new fella, he's a right nobhead, but at least she wasn't a slut. Now she's about to get her knickers off for whoever will pay the rent, no matter who they are. It fucking stinks.
Now it's actually come to this... going to Anfield has felt a lot like going round to your ex birds to pick up the CDs and Tshirts lately, a miserable event with memories of happier times but maybe the chance of the odd shag. I hadn't been able to think of her the same since she got a new fella, he's a right nobhead, but at least she wasn't a slut. Now she's about to get her knickers off for whoever will pay the rent, no matter who they are. It fucking stinks.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189393#msg1189393 date=1286312240]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189388#msg1189388 date=1286311984]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
Your honour, the defence would like to present Exhibit A.
[/quote]
Never eaten them but I know they taste shit just by the name.
How many times do I have to tell you.
[/quote]
Magic stars are yummy.
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189393#msg1189393 date=1286312240]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189388#msg1189388 date=1286311984]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
Your honour, the defence would like to present Exhibit A.
[/quote]
Never eaten them but I know they taste shit just by the name.
How many times do I have to tell you.
[/quote]
Magic stars are yummy.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41783.msg1189392#msg1189392 date=1286312165]
Dunno if I like the sound of this Baseball dude.
He\'s simply not rich enough, which probably means another leveraged buy out is on the cards.
[/quote]
Even if he was rich enough a leveraged buy out would be more likely than not. Nobody is stumping up anywhere between 400 and 600m of their own cash to buy us.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41783.msg1189392#msg1189392 date=1286312165]
Dunno if I like the sound of this Baseball dude.
He\'s simply not rich enough, which probably means another leveraged buy out is on the cards.
[/quote]
Even if he was rich enough a leveraged buy out would be more likely than not. Nobody is stumping up anywhere between 400 and 600m of their own cash to buy us.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41783.msg1189375#msg1189375 date=1286311555]
Anyone who prefers a Mars over a Twix is cunt.
[/quote]
Then I'm a cunt.
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41783.msg1189375#msg1189375 date=1286311555]
Anyone who prefers a Mars over a Twix is cunt.
[/quote]
Then I'm a cunt.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
They're amongst my favourite chocolate bars ever. Star bars are especially lush.
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
They're amongst my favourite chocolate bars ever. Star bars are especially lush.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1189387#msg1189387 date=1286311932]
I\'d be quite happy if Henry did take over. Anyone holding out for a benevolent billionaire is fooling themselves.
[/quote]
He doesn't need to be a benevolent billionaire, but it would be nice to get someone with a bit of financial clout who wouldn't be crippled by a couple of wrong turns.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1189387#msg1189387 date=1286311932]
I\'d be quite happy if Henry did take over. Anyone holding out for a benevolent billionaire is fooling themselves.
[/quote]
He doesn't need to be a benevolent billionaire, but it would be nice to get someone with a bit of financial clout who wouldn't be crippled by a couple of wrong turns.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1189387#msg1189387 date=1286311932]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189377#msg1189377 date=1286311621]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189374#msg1189374 date=1286311544]
\"Henry, 55, set the stage for victory by aggressively boosting revenues after he and his partners -- including TV producer Tom Werner and veteran baseball exec Larry Lucchino -- bought the Red Sox for a record $690 million in early 2002. They made the most of Fenway Park, the oldest stadium in Major League Baseball, by squeezing in more seats and then charging the highest prices for home games,\"
[/quote]
That is the bit I didn\'t like.
[/quote]
They still sell out for every single game. 81 home games in season btw.
I was going to mention there being a number of similarities between the Red Sox and us, the historic stadium being one of them as mentioned in the article.
I\'d be quite happy if Henry did take over. Anyone holding out for a benevolent billionaire is fooling themselves.
[/quote]
It sounds like from this that they will just try to squeeze as much as possible from the "franchise" to boost revenue to fund the team.
This just sounds all to familiar to the business model that H&G had, although I suppose if there wasn't interest payments of £50m odd to be made every year it might help.
Also I think H&G have increased the reevenue streams significently already and I doubt if there is much room for further increases, bar large increases in ticket prices etc.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1189387#msg1189387 date=1286311932]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189377#msg1189377 date=1286311621]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189374#msg1189374 date=1286311544]
\"Henry, 55, set the stage for victory by aggressively boosting revenues after he and his partners -- including TV producer Tom Werner and veteran baseball exec Larry Lucchino -- bought the Red Sox for a record $690 million in early 2002. They made the most of Fenway Park, the oldest stadium in Major League Baseball, by squeezing in more seats and then charging the highest prices for home games,\"
[/quote]
That is the bit I didn\'t like.
[/quote]
They still sell out for every single game. 81 home games in season btw.
I was going to mention there being a number of similarities between the Red Sox and us, the historic stadium being one of them as mentioned in the article.
I\'d be quite happy if Henry did take over. Anyone holding out for a benevolent billionaire is fooling themselves.
[/quote]
It sounds like from this that they will just try to squeeze as much as possible from the "franchise" to boost revenue to fund the team.
This just sounds all to familiar to the business model that H&G had, although I suppose if there wasn't interest payments of £50m odd to be made every year it might help.
Also I think H&G have increased the reevenue streams significently already and I doubt if there is much room for further increases, bar large increases in ticket prices etc.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1189399#msg1189399 date=1286312422]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41783.msg1189392#msg1189392 date=1286312165]
Dunno if I like the sound of this Baseball dude.
He\'s simply not rich enough, which probably means another leveraged buy out is on the cards.
[/quote]
Even if he was rich enough a leveraged buy out would be more likely than not. Nobody is stumping up anywhere between 400 and 600m of their own cash to buy us.
[/quote]
If that's the case Rosco, then chances are this sale is going to be of absolutely no use to us.
Whoever buys us will just service the interest with the club's profits and wait for the Big pay day from the TV rights, then sell us on for a huge profit to whoever is the next to bite.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1189399#msg1189399 date=1286312422]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=41783.msg1189392#msg1189392 date=1286312165]
Dunno if I like the sound of this Baseball dude.
He\'s simply not rich enough, which probably means another leveraged buy out is on the cards.
[/quote]
Even if he was rich enough a leveraged buy out would be more likely than not. Nobody is stumping up anywhere between 400 and 600m of their own cash to buy us.
[/quote]
If that's the case Rosco, then chances are this sale is going to be of absolutely no use to us.
Whoever buys us will just service the interest with the club's profits and wait for the Big pay day from the TV rights, then sell us on for a huge profit to whoever is the next to bite.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41783.msg1189397#msg1189397 date=1286312302]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189393#msg1189393 date=1286312240]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189388#msg1189388 date=1286311984]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
Your honour, the defence would like to present Exhibit A.
[/quote]
Never eaten them but I know they taste shit just by the name.
How many times do I have to tell you.
[/quote]
Magic stars are yummy.
[/quote]
Your Honour, the case for the prosecution now rests.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=41783.msg1189397#msg1189397 date=1286312302]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189393#msg1189393 date=1286312240]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41783.msg1189388#msg1189388 date=1286311984]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
Your honour, the defence would like to present Exhibit A.
[/quote]
Never eaten them but I know they taste shit just by the name.
How many times do I have to tell you.
[/quote]
Magic stars are yummy.
[/quote]
Your Honour, the case for the prosecution now rests.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=41783.msg1189402#msg1189402 date=1286312496]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
They're amongst my favourite chocolate bars ever. Star bars are especially lush.
[/quote]
Best chocolate bar ever is a red Bounty
as any fule kno.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=41783.msg1189402#msg1189402 date=1286312496]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41783.msg1189383#msg1189383 date=1286311821]
All chocalate bars named after celestial bodies are shit. Mars bars, Milky Way, Star bar etc
Coincidence?
I think not.
[/quote]
They're amongst my favourite chocolate bars ever. Star bars are especially lush.
[/quote]
Best chocolate bar ever is a red Bounty
as any fule kno.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
I\'d agree Count, there isn\'t a whole lot of room for big increases in revenue, absent a new stadium. I saw people talking about TV rights \"reverting to the clubs\" or whatever but the Premier League TV rights situation can only be disbanded by a 2/3 majority (14 clubs in favour), it\'ll never happen because a lot of clubs won\'t be able to sell their rights on their own.
I\'d agree Count, there isn\'t a whole lot of room for big increases in revenue, absent a new stadium. I saw people talking about TV rights \"reverting to the clubs\" or whatever but the Premier League TV rights situation can only be disbanded by a 2/3 majority (14 clubs in favour), it\'ll never happen because a lot of clubs won\'t be able to sell their rights on their own.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=41783.msg1189412#msg1189412 date=1286312871]
You're like a big bunch of sobbing girls having a chocolate fest yer load of gayers. You'll be reaching for the Haagen Daaz in a minute. So the red sox fella....
[/quote]
Ben & Jerrys is where it's at.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=41783.msg1189412#msg1189412 date=1286312871]
You're like a big bunch of sobbing girls having a chocolate fest yer load of gayers. You'll be reaching for the Haagen Daaz in a minute. So the red sox fella....
[/quote]
Ben & Jerrys is where it's at.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=41783.msg1189412#msg1189412 date=1286312871]
You\'re like a big bunch of sobbing girls having a chocolate fest yer load of gayers. You\'ll be reaching for the Haagen Daaz in a minute. So the red sox fella....
[/quote
I don\'t think many people would appreciate the baseball approach to team building. Basically if you\'ve got a squad that isn\'t working out and you\'re horribly underperforming as a club you get rid of all your big earners, reinvest in youth and spend a couple of years getting your act together.
Most people won\'t like it, you\'ll here the usual nonsense about \"ambition\" and \"selling club\" but realistically if your hands are tied because of lots of shit decisions it\'s best to get rid, take your medicine and come back stronger rather than do what we did and struggle on even though it\'s patently not working.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=41783.msg1189412#msg1189412 date=1286312871]
You\'re like a big bunch of sobbing girls having a chocolate fest yer load of gayers. You\'ll be reaching for the Haagen Daaz in a minute. So the red sox fella....
[/quote
I don\'t think many people would appreciate the baseball approach to team building. Basically if you\'ve got a squad that isn\'t working out and you\'re horribly underperforming as a club you get rid of all your big earners, reinvest in youth and spend a couple of years getting your act together.
Most people won\'t like it, you\'ll here the usual nonsense about \"ambition\" and \"selling club\" but realistically if your hands are tied because of lots of shit decisions it\'s best to get rid, take your medicine and come back stronger rather than do what we did and struggle on even though it\'s patently not working.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1189411#msg1189411 date=1286312839]
I\'d agree Count, there isn\'t a whole lot of room for big increases in revenue, absent a new stadium. I saw people talking about TV rights \"reverting to the clubs\" or whatever but the Premier League TV rights situation can only be disbanded by a 2/3 majority (14 clubs in favour), it\'ll never happen because a lot of clubs won\'t be able to sell their rights on their own.
[/quote]
I appreciate that a lot of the extra revenue generated coming from a new stadium is from the corporate sector, but the way things are going with other clubs, eg Man U selling season tickets again for the first time in years, we could end up spending a lot of money on a new 60k seater stadium that is often only three quarters full and not generating the anticipated matchday revenue.
Oh, and did I mention the £400m loan with the rather significant mortgage attached.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41783.msg1189411#msg1189411 date=1286312839]
I\'d agree Count, there isn\'t a whole lot of room for big increases in revenue, absent a new stadium. I saw people talking about TV rights \"reverting to the clubs\" or whatever but the Premier League TV rights situation can only be disbanded by a 2/3 majority (14 clubs in favour), it\'ll never happen because a lot of clubs won\'t be able to sell their rights on their own.
[/quote]
I appreciate that a lot of the extra revenue generated coming from a new stadium is from the corporate sector, but the way things are going with other clubs, eg Man U selling season tickets again for the first time in years, we could end up spending a lot of money on a new 60k seater stadium that is often only three quarters full and not generating the anticipated matchday revenue.
Oh, and did I mention the £400m loan with the rather significant mortgage attached.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=41783.msg1189412#msg1189412 date=1286312871]
You're like a big bunch of sobbing girls having a chocolate fest yer load of gayers. You'll be reaching for the Haagen Daaz in a minute. So the red sox fella....
[/quote]
Clearly you are the biggest gay in the village.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=41783.msg1189412#msg1189412 date=1286312871]
You're like a big bunch of sobbing girls having a chocolate fest yer load of gayers. You'll be reaching for the Haagen Daaz in a minute. So the red sox fella....
[/quote]
Clearly you are the biggest gay in the village.
Re: Club Refinance Thread
[quote author=The Duck link=topic=41783.msg1189416#msg1189416 date=1286313059]
This is the picture Sky are using to break the story of the two bids.
Surely they've got a more up to date stock photo than this one.....
[/quote]
Perhaps they are having a job finding a celebratory one
regards
[quote author=The Duck link=topic=41783.msg1189416#msg1189416 date=1286313059]
This is the picture Sky are using to break the story of the two bids.
Surely they've got a more up to date stock photo than this one.....
[/quote]
Perhaps they are having a job finding a celebratory one
regards
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