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Liverpool sack Rafa Benitez

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[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40455.msg1111738#msg1111738 date=1275526204]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=40455.msg1111733#msg1111733 date=1275525957]
Haven't read the thread, but could this be potential new owners making the decision, and already have someone lined up to replace Rafa? Even though Hicks has said it will take a long time to sell the club?
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Given the owners' track record in running the club, are you confident in them getting a league challenging manager in? (remember Klinnsman-gate?)
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Anyone remember Maradonna-gate?
 
I doubt there is new owners in the pipeline. If there are new owners and they are in negotiations far enough down the process then we would have heard about it. And if they hold enough sway to sack Benitez then why not just announce the potential takeover?

I imagine we've sacked Benitez and that's it. And in fact I'd be surprised if we appointed a new manager full time. Any prospective new owners would probably like to work from a clean slate and bring their own man in. I'd imagine we'll see Dalglish or Lee as interim manager until the club is sold. Whenever that day is.
 
Well given that it costs 16million to sack him, it could make sense. Why would the current owners sack Rafa, then leave the new manager with maybe even less money to spend? Just keep him if that was the case.

I don't believe this small payout to get Rafa to leave, as I think he would stay had he been given the chance. I'm gonna go with new owners.
 
They'll be a new manager in place before the season starts.

If we go into the season with Dalglish in charge then we're no fucking different to the Newcastle fans with Keegan.

In fact: it's worse.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40455.msg1111744#msg1111744 date=1275526529]
It has been discussed as a possibility in the VQ household Mr T

regards
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Mr T? He would be awesome in post match interviews, maybe they yanks want to inject a bit of hollywood razamatazz.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40455.msg1111744#msg1111744 date=1275526529]
It has been discussed as a possibility in the VQ household Mr T

regards
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Care to proffer a web simulcast, sir ?
 
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=40455.msg1111745#msg1111745 date=1275526531]
Well given that it costs 16million to sack him, it could make sense. Why would the current owners sack Rafa, then leave the new manager with maybe even less money to spend? Just keep him if that was the case.

I don't believe this small payout to get Rafa to leave, as I think he would stay had he been given the chance. I'm gonna go with new owners.
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They are negotiating a £3-4m payout as they cant even sack him right! Pay him every penny.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40455.msg1111747#msg1111747 date=1275526673]
They'll be a new manager in place before the season starts.

If we go into the season with Dalglish in charge then we're no fucking different to the Newcastle fans with Keegan.

In fact: it's worse.


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It would not be fucking worse.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=40455.msg1111743#msg1111743 date=1275526501]
I doubt there is new owners in the pipeline. If there are new owners and they are in negotiations far enough down the process then we would have heard about it. And if they hold enough sway to sack Benitez then why not just announce the potential takeover?

I imagine we've sacked Benitez and that's it. And in fact I'd be surprised if we appointed a new manager full time. Any prospective new owners would probably like to work from a clean slate and bring their own man in. I'd imagine we'll see Dalglish or Lee as interim manager until the club is sold. Whenever that day is.
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Well if they do it on the QT they can save £12m at a stroke, and avoid getting their hands soiled so KK, and Rebel will not hate them forever for getting shut of Rafa

regards
 
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=40455.msg1111742#msg1111742 date=1275526376]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=40455.msg1111738#msg1111738 date=1275526204]
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=40455.msg1111733#msg1111733 date=1275525957]
Haven't read the thread, but could this be potential new owners making the decision, and already have someone lined up to replace Rafa? Even though Hicks has said it will take a long time to sell the club?
[/quote]

Given the owners' track record in running the club, are you confident in them getting a league challenging manager in? (remember Klinnsman-gate?)
[/quote]

Anyone remember Maradonna-gate?
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Yes.

I laughed a lot.

Got shut pretty quickly as I recall.
 
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=40455.msg1111745#msg1111745 date=1275526531]
Well given that it costs 16million to sack him, it could make sense. Why would the current owners sack Rafa, then leave the new manager with maybe even less money to spend? Just keep him if that was the case.

I don't believe this small payout to get Rafa to leave, as I think he would stay had he been given the chance. I'm gonna go with new owners.
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Nah.

I think we've sacked him and decided to cut our losses fearing another season like the last, thus making the club a less attractive proposition.

Like I said, why sack him if the new owners insisting on it are only a possibility? Which they would be at this point since we've heard nothing and they wouldn't be far along in the process if they were showing an interest.
 
I really hope this IS just a change of managers, with regards to whats happening on the pitch and not anything else. If it is then im okay with Rafa leaving. If its just a case of getting him out of the way so the books can be balanced with the boardroom having easier access to offloading top players then it truly is a sad sad day!

Heres hoping its the start of rebuilding the shambles of what we've become!
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=40455.msg1111751#msg1111751 date=1275526778]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40455.msg1111747#msg1111747 date=1275526673]
They'll be a new manager in place before the season starts.

If we go into the season with Dalglish in charge then we're no fucking different to the Newcastle fans with Keegan.

In fact: it's worse.


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It would not be fucking worse.
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It would from a footballing point of view, mate.

It would be over sentimental bollocks, and that's something we can ill-afford at the moment.
 
What are the chances of new owners, serious contenders, being entertained and nothing leaking ?

Apart from the Hong Kong gambling geezer, I've heard nowt.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
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We probably buy Danny Wilson.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
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Then this thread becomes an historical folly.
 
I wasn't aware there were so many people who seemingly put Rafa higher than the club. It's a surprise.

Slugmonster, that is one depressing scenario!
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
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Rafa should tell them to get to fuck. Pay up cunts, you paid Parry.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
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Then he's an adjective-adjective-noun.

Take the money and run
 
[quote author=singlerider link=topic=40455.msg1111766#msg1111766 date=1275527166]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
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Then he's an adjective-adjective-noun.

Take the money and run
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If your employer offered you less than 1/5th of what you were owed, what would you say?
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=40455.msg1111761#msg1111761 date=1275527052]
What are the chances of new owners, serious contenders, being entertained and nothing leaking ?

Apart from the Hong Kong gambling geezer, I've heard nowt.
[/quote]

Exactly.

Kopking, would you rather Benitez got his full whack compensation than the club saving the money?
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40455.msg1111760#msg1111760 date=1275527039]
[quote author=themn link=topic=40455.msg1111751#msg1111751 date=1275526778]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40455.msg1111747#msg1111747 date=1275526673]
They'll be a new manager in place before the season starts.

If we go into the season with Dalglish in charge then we're no fucking different to the Newcastle fans with Keegan.

In fact: it's worse.


[/quote]

It would not be fucking worse.
[/quote]

It would from a footballing point of view, mate.

It would be over sentimental bollocks, and that's something we can ill-afford at the moment.
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Over-sentimental bollocks it may be but, Kenny Dalglish, manager>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You know the rest.
 
Dalglish would be awesome hes still a canny bastard and the players love him. Hes not been living under a rock for the last 10 years.

Dalglish is a born winner. It will never happen like. More likely be Sammy as caretaker boss untill the new manager can be found. Christ.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111768#msg1111768 date=1275527279]
[quote author=singlerider link=topic=40455.msg1111766#msg1111766 date=1275527166]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
[/quote]

Then he's an adjective-adjective-noun.

Take the money and run
[/quote]

If your employer offered you less than 1/5th of what you were owed, what would you say?
[/quote]

That all hinges on Inter's position.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
[/quote]

Hanging on somewhere he is not wanted by the management, some very senior players (by all accounts) and an increasing number of fans. I don't think it's an option.

regards
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
[/quote]

I think they would stump up more than the 3m if he declines, as they run the risk he doesn't act professionally going forward and lose them value on their investment.

Personally, if he goes, and it doesn't make a difference to their spending on the club, I hope Rafa rinses the btrds for every penny he can.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111768#msg1111768 date=1275527279]
[quote author=singlerider link=topic=40455.msg1111766#msg1111766 date=1275527166]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40455.msg1111758#msg1111758 date=1275527001]
Quick question:

What if Rafa says no to the 3M offer?
[/quote]

Then he's an adjective-adjective-noun.

Take the money and run
[/quote]

If your employer offered you less than 1/5th of what you were owed, what would you say?
[/quote]

If it was a case of stay in a job where I new I wasn't wanted by those above me and below me, I'd take the money now and have the rest later, but no way would I stay working in that kind of environment.

If I'm perfectly honest, I've never understood situations where people can be shit at their jobs, get the sack, and then walk out with a massive payoff. If I was shit at my job and got the sack, I'd be shown the door and that's it - maybe some gardening leave if I was lucky
 
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