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I am not a doctor, but I would guess Cleftlip
Repaired cleft palate.
 
He’s without doubt our best tackling midfielder and something we have sorely lacked with Fabs decline last year. He’s one of the first names on the team sheet for me now. Him +2 which is outrageous when we think where he was in the pecking order back in September,
 
I said it awhile back...

Endo is not English
Endo is not young
Endo is not an expensive signing
Endo came from Stuttgart, not some fancy big club
Endo just gets on with it

It doesn't matter his actual performances on the pitch, he will always be "not good enough" as a result of the above.

They were even pundits who said he "can't pass", and MacA is the best option we have in DM.

This is one topic I try to stay away from these days. If actual performances doesn't define a player for some people, there is really nothing more to discuss. I am just glad Klopp sees his value.
 
Watching Endo rapidly prove himself good enough at this level has been really pleasing. Endo does not have years on his side, so how quickly he was able to meaningfully contribute was always going to be a factor in evaluating his tranfer. What's interesting about Endo is I think the likes of Salah are just as grateful to see him on the team as VVD and Allison. Endo absolutely recognises what our attackers can do in space and will always look to get our attacking game started as quickly as possible. He seems to be able to scan around him, know where people are and be able to release the ball accurately without taking that second or third touch. He's also scored some big goals us in a limited time. All on all I'd say we're finding out why the Stuttgard fans were devastated when he left.
 
6CM - Endo’s been absolutely great. What a surprise ! We love him

6CM - So who should we buy next ? I think we still need a world class DM.
In fairness, having only one player who specialises in this crucial position isn't a great situation for a club pushing in as many competitions as us. If Bajetic and Thiago showed any signs of getting fit this season there would be less clamour.
 
In fairness, having only one player who specialises in this crucial position isn't a great situation for a club pushing in as many competitions as us. If Bajetic and Thiago showed any signs of getting fit this season there would be less clamour.

Even if they were both fit I wouldn't have been happy. Stefan seems more suited to being a little bit further forward it seems, and Thiago (for all the hype) has mostly been a bitter disappointment, and would have struggled at a solitary 6. TBH, Mac reminds me of a less technically proficient thiago when deployed in the 6. Fine, but overall not god enough as the lone 6
 
Even if they were both fit I wouldn't have been happy. Stefan seems more suited to being a little bit further forward it seems, and Thiago (for all the hype) has mostly been a bitter disappointment, and would have struggled at a solitary 6. TBH, Mac reminds me of a less technically proficient thiago when deployed in the 6. Fine, but overall not god enough as the lone 6
I think Bajetic has looked great in the 6 position. Who knows what he's going to be like when he returns, 6 foot 5 and built like a tank perhaps, rather than the slender C-3 PO proportions we last seen (well known to be the ideal physique for a DM). I actually think his best shot with us is at DM.
 
I think Bajetic has looked great in the 6 position. Who knows what he's going to be like when he returns, 6 foot 5 and built like a tank perhaps, rather than the slender C-3 PO proportions we last seen (well known to be the ideal physique for a DM). I actually think his best shot with us is at DM.
Id agree, I think his best shot probably is DM, only in the sense we can mould him fully to what we need. He looks decent there last year, but again he wasn't really the only DM; as hendo/whoever was lcm was dropping deep. He looked best when playing with fabinho, rather than being fabinho

I have hopes for the lad, he just needs to gain a bit of mass first
 
In fairness, having only one player who specialises in this crucial position isn't a great situation for a club pushing in as many competitions as us. If Bajetic and Thiago showed any signs of getting fit this season there would be less clamour.
Do you think we still need to buy another midfielder if Fabinho had not left us this season ?

He's 30 too btw.
 
Endo is 31 on February 9th, as well as he has done I think it’s very fair and sensible to be discussing possible replacements. He was a short term signing.
 
Yeah fair enough.

It's just that if i hired someone to work for me, i wouldn't offer him a 4 year contract if i was planning to replace him a year later. Know what i mean...

Yea i get it, it feels kind of heartless and superfan to be discussing getting rid when he’s only through the door. I don’t even really mean replace, more like discuss who succeeds him.

Personally i reckon he’ll do well this season and the next, hopefully getting phased out by the badger tank who’s been on the weights for a couple of years.
 
I don’t understand why succession planning is such a taboo for some of our fans. It’s literally how you get a period of success
 
Just to be clear - I was just surprised at the position of his old club in their league, it was not a dig at Endo, I think he has been great, and for me the best midfielder on the pitch in that game we had against Arsenal in the league. I am even more happy that we spent 20M Euro's to cover that position. The only thing that worries me is that he is the only competent player that can play that 6 well, I get serious nerves when we play Mac10 and any other player in that position, I also think that Bajcetic will take a lot of time to learn that position as I think he has very strong attacking instincts - I still have nightmares about that game against RM in the CL last year where he decided to take on a bunch of their players up the field and lost it, which led to their second goal. I am still advocating us getting another player that is more physically built to play that ball-playing 6/8 role more competently than the others we use for 6. Also, we cannot rely on using Endo for every single game where we want a 6, he is going to need rest as well.
 
I don’t understand why succession planning is such a taboo for some of our fans. It’s literally how you get a period of success

I'd be happy to have Endo for another couple seasons but you're absolutely right that it's not wrong to be thinking about who comes next.
 
I don’t understand why succession planning is such a taboo for some of our fans. It’s literally how you get a period of success
i don't think people complains about succession planning

for example. some people has been banging about selling salah for the last few season (some almost since he signed for us) and use the money to buy new player when clearly his contribution is still good.

that's why a few people asking quite a valid question. can the new player immediately replace salah contributions if we sold him.

people will be happy if we can find a new salah while the current salah still serving us. just like having new van dijk (quansah) while original van dijk is still contributing. knowing that when the time for van dijk to go, quansah will be our new lynchpin. this is succession
 
i don't think people complains about succession planning

for example. some people has been banging about selling salah for the last few season (some almost since he signed for us) and use the money to buy new player when clearly his contribution is still good.

that's why a few people asking quite a valid question. can the new player immediately replace salah contributions if we sold him.

people will be happy if we can find a new salah while the current salah still serving us. just like having new van dijk (quansah) while original van dijk is still contributing. knowing that when the time for van dijk to go, quansah will be our new lynchpin. this is succession
It's exceptionally rare to be able to have both players at the same time (the legend and the replacement), as you'd hope they should have an overlap in their peaks. With Salahs replacement we're nowhere near it as there is such a dearth of productive right wingers right now, so if we sell we need to play the replacement to devleop them; which won't happen with someone like Salah who wants to play everyminute. . In the case of Endo, he's 31 and cost very little; we should be buying his replacement now to develop in to the role, or push endo to the bench. Replacing and talking about replacing endo should be much easier to stomach than replacing salah
 
It's exceptionally rare to be able to have both players at the same time (the legend and the replacement), as you'd hope they should have an overlap in their peaks. With Salahs replacement we're nowhere near it as there is such a dearth of productive right wingers right now, so if we sell we need to play the replacement to devleop them; which won't happen with someone like Salah who wants to play everyminute. . In the case of Endo, he's 31 and cost very little; we should be buying his replacement now to develop in to the role, or push endo to the bench. Replacing and talking about replacing endo should be much easier to stomach than replacing salah
i agree with this. we have to have a succession plan for our 30+ players. they are reaching their shelf life. and as you say, it's not easy to get good players. every clubs want them.

i just don't think that our fans have problem with succession plans. but they do have some reservation if the idea is to replace our good/excellent player outright.

so. if we can find a good/potential player while the excellent one (e.g salah case) is still serving, then people will be happy. and i think people are hoping nunez/diaz/elliot could somehow replace salah but the gulf is quite big at the moment. if nunez/diaz/elliot can somehow became 'quansah', then people will be more agreeable of letting him go.

jota should be a good one. just that he is not as robust.
 
Hey Tom, congratulations on winning Employee of the Month after being with us for only 6 months !

*whispers to HR* - "Find me someone immediately to replace Tom by next year"
 
Hey Tom, congratulations on winning Employee of the Month after being with us for only 6 months !

*whispers to HR* - "Find me someone immediately to replace Tom by next year"
Yes because one industry that relies inherently on athletic ability, rather than knowledge is comparable
 
Do you think we still need to buy another midfielder if Fabinho had not left us this season ?

He's 30 too btw.
100% yes we needed to buy another player if Fabinho stayed. Whether we could have is another matter. But it was always a problem that we had nobody other than Fabs could play the DM role so solidly (until he turned to shit last season). I don't know why you seem to be treating this as trying to replace Endo. It isn't. As I say, for me it's a non issue if we have Bajetic back and firing. But he seems to be out for the season.
 
Yes because one industry that relies inherently on athletic ability, rather than knowledge is comparable
And this is exactly why we’ve all missed the big picture. ‘Course it’s comparable !! We’re dealing with human beings not some fantasy football. The sooner we armchair fans realize that the less miserable we become.

If we still haven’t already noticed yet it’s why Klopp is so endeared, and successful at the club and all around. He brings the human touch which not many have, and doesn’t just stick to the regular script or rulebook that so many managers try so desperately to emulate.

Tactics, strategies and all that technical stuff are very important but how we treat one another, respect and mutual understanding, fostering team unity and healthy club atmosphere - those are also very important ingredients too, and we’d be naive to think it’s as easy as it seems. Ask those boys at Old Trafford how difficult it is. Otherwise explain why are we top of the table when we spend less than most each season.

Here’s a bet I’m willing to wager. Endo will outlast many of you naysayers’ predictions and I reckon he’ll last until the end of his contract and play more games than we all expect.
 
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100% yes we needed to buy another player is Fabinho stayed. Whether we could have is another matter. But it was always a problem that we had nobody other than Fabs could play the DM role so solidly (until he turned to shit last season). I don't know why you seem to be treating this as trying to replace Endo. It isn't. As I say, for me it's a non issue if we have Bajetic back and firing. But he seems to be out for the season.
Succession is one thing and it is an important one but the lad hasn’t even completed a full season !!
 
And this is exactly why we’ve all missed the big picture. ‘Course it’s comparable !! We’re dealing with human beings not some fantasy football. The sooner we armchair fans realize that the less miserable we become.

If we still haven’t already noticed yet it’s why Klopp is so endeared, and successful at the club and all around. He brings the human touch which not many have, and doesn’t just stick to the regular script or rulebook that so many managers try so desperately to emulate.

Tactics, strategies and all that technical stuff are very important but how we treat one another, respect and mutual understanding, fostering team unity and healthy club atmosphere - those are also very important ingredients too, and we’d be naive to think it’s as easy as it seems. Ask those boys at Old Trafford how difficult it is. Otherwise explain why are we top of the table when we spend less than most each season.

Here’s a bet I’m willing to wager. Endo will outlast many of you naysayers’ predictions and I reckon he’ll last until the end of his contract and play more games than we all expect.
Who is naysaying about Endo? Everyone thinks he's great. Are you Endo's mum or something? Konnichiwa Mrs Endo. Please realise, we think your son is great. He's so good he has reminded us of the importance of having a specialist DM in the team, and that it would be good to have cover and competition for your exceptional son in this crucial position. Sayounara Mrs E.
 
I knew someone's gonna nitpick on my poor choice of word there - naysayer.

Then i thought - couldnt be arsed to edit it.

I'm not related to Endo. The only thing we have in common is that we're both asian and seeing one of your own play well in a foreign league for a top team makes one feel proud and root for them. But yeah, as you were...
 
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