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So the settlers of colonial projects such as Polynesia, Guam or Falkland are natives?
You're not very good in understanding points are you mate? not quite sharp in the head are you?
It's resistance to a colonial project.
You should know.
It's obviously to be condemned.
But it cannot be taken out of context.
So Israel is committing genocide but we must understand that the context is murder of her people on Oct 7th. (Not that it justifies all the murder from Israel but that the root of the onslaught is in response to Oct 7th)
And that this ongoing prolonged war is a resistance to the colonialism that the Israelis have faced.
And that this ongoing prolonged war is a resistance to the colonialism that the Israelis have faced.
That's what native means yeah. I think you mean indigenous?
The average Palestinian nowadays is more closely related to the people that were there when it was, what you call Jewish land, than the average Israeli. But this is a total nonsense argument anyway....
Oh really? do explain that to me please.
Prove it isn't true.
From Wiki: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians)
When it's not all about blinding hatred of the Jews, truth and justice is right there to be seen mate.
The most beautiful thing in all of this is that Palestinians refer to themselves as Arabs and we're still having this discussion.
From your wiki link.
I'm not sure what your quotes are trying to say tbh, I suggested the average Palestinians are more closely related to some of the earliest inhabitants of the land, and you said you were going to prove that wasn't the case. Hint: to prove it, you'll need to prove Israelis are more so. Let me know if you can do that.
So Palestinians are partially not from Palestine, that's undisputed.
The others are perhaps indigenous, which means they were Jews before Islam converted them.
Jews are obviously Jews which means they are indigenous to the land.
During the 2000 years of diaspora there was never a reason for anyone to convert to Judaism, unless you desired extermination.
So the problem remains colonial Islam, as it's clear that if there was never any colonialism of the land, then these Palestinians were Jewish and there was no problem, the place would be the Jewish state that justice demands it to be.
Considering all that, again in alignment with justice, the land should be a Jewish state, and those who wish to remain truthful to the colonial culture of Islam and Arabia, should probably move there.
The others are perhaps indigenous, which means they were Jews before Islam converted them.
Jews are obviously Jews which means they are indigenous to the land.
During the 2000 years of diaspora there was never a reason for anyone to convert to Judaism, unless you desired extermination.
So the problem remains colonial Islam, as it's clear that if there was never any colonialism of the land, then these Palestinians were Jewish and there was no problem, the place would be the Jewish state that justice demands it to be.
Considering all that, again in alignment with justice, the land should be a Jewish state, and those who wish to remain truthful to the colonial culture of Islam and Arabia, should probably move there.
All Jewish people are indigenous, because they are. Hahaha.
Anyway, I've had enough of this discussion, it's quite clearly non-sensical and non-productive. Enjoy.
Anyway, I've had enough of this discussion, it's quite clearly non-sensical and non-productive. Enjoy.
Yeah no you are right, Jews are a bunch of Europeans who wanted a ride along in the extermination camps, and a bunch of Africans and Asians who wanted to pay more taxes and be denied any rights.
That's sense for you.
No, I doesn't. I haven't said anything like that whatsoever. I've just merely suggested that the people that have lived there for generations and centuries, have at least as much claim to the land. They're definitely native, which was one of your more bizarre claims.
So, it can be understood as a civil war between two indigenous groups, and neither side can be described as more accepting or less hostile toward the other.
For example, in 1941 the Palestinian leader met with Hitler, seeking support for expelling the Jews and eliminating the idea of a Jewish national home in Palestine.
Meaning that what we have is two peoples in conflict, neither willing to accept the other’s existence, difference being that one side currently is more powerful.
Yet today there are far deadlier conflicts around the world. In Sudan, Yemen, Myanmar, Syria, Ethiopia and more, the number of deaths far surpasses those in Gaza. They are not even comparable.
This means either the focus on Israel is due to Jewish hatred, or due to a refusal to recognize their right in the land as indigenous people.
Since it's obviously not just hatred for no reason god forbid, then it has to be a refusal to recognize the Jewish right to live in the land.
Neither of those are the reasons. You have this habit of making assumptions and putting words in people's mouths.
Ok explain what the reason is then.
I'll give two to start, but I've mentioned them before.
One. My government, or Western governments do not support (politically, militarily and economically) what's happening in Sudan, Yemen, Myanmar etc. They do support what Israel are doing. And people want their own governments to act differently.
Two. There are zero people on here supporting, or denying, what's going on in Sudan, Yemen, Myanmar etc. There is at least one doing that for Israel.
One. My government, or Western governments do not support (politically, militarily and economically) what's happening in Sudan, Yemen, Myanmar etc. They do support what Israel are doing. And people want their own governments to act differently.
Two. There are zero people on here supporting, or denying, what's going on in Sudan, Yemen, Myanmar etc. There is at least one doing that for Israel.
On one side, there's an agreed ceasefire and a path to freeing all hostages. On the other, we have a further invasion in Gaza, calling up 60k more reservists and an expanded occupation in the West Bank.
Oh the joys.
Oh the joys.
Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war
Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000
This data is from May.
And they continue to kill and murder.
Every few years 'mow the lawn' leading to a complete slaughter.
This isnt collateral, its not targeted, it not even war its slaughter.
Genocide.
None of this human shield stuff either, it is deliberate.
We've seen it with our own eyes.
There is no excuse
And this also.
Hamas run health figures etc
View: https://x.com/HamzaMSyed/status/1958564025425445173
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Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war
Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000
View: https://x.com/ShieldsClips/status/1958629779605004521
Really isnt much left to be said for what an evil state Israel is.
Or the evil people that continue to support this.
WOW. What an interesting stat. How did they come up with that? They are estimating the percentage of people that will die out of all of the people who are members of a particular group. WOW. How do they calculate that?
Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war
Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000www.theguardian.com
Forgot to switch accounts?
View: https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1959881104569069708
Israel is a murderous genocidal state.
This isnt even a discussion anymore.
