Poll Mignolet or Karius
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Again: "Klopp has a difficult choice to make. Because they're both fucking shit"
If you're asking me what choice Klopp will make, then I think he'll stick with Klarius.
Personally, I don't care. See the above sentence for clarification.
If you're asking me what choice Klopp will make, then I think he'll stick with Klarius.
Personally, I don't care. See the above sentence for clarification.
I'm not asking for Klopp's opinion. I'm asking for your opinion.
Klopp will probably persist with Karius though.
There's definitely a case to be made.
6 conceded goals in 2 games. At least two howlers.
It's not like Chelsea when they had Cech to fall back on if Cortious fucked up, Mignolet is barely an improvement on Karius, if at all, and his ponderous foot work and distribution is something I haven't missed. Personally I'd give Karius until January, if he hasn't shored up by then, do we start looking for another keeper?
We know what we get from Mignolet though. He can pull off some spectacular saves despite his poor "footwork". To be fair Karius footwork hasn't been that great either.
Yeah, he's been horrible in many games, but - and don't take this as any kind of pro-Klarius statement - it's not really fair to blame the astonishing amount of goals we have conceded - more than any other team in Top 10 apart from Watford, purely on our shit goalkeepers.
We have an obvious defensive problem that goes far beyond just that, and it's something many of us have been discussing for months now.
Certainly. If he cant do his job and makes another howler vs Boro and it costs us points, then what will Klopp do?
Mings distribution and communication is awful though.
Not a good situation for us. Shame we cant find some stability with the goalkeeper position.
I've voted for Mignolet which is excruciating given my lack of faith in him but Karius is costing us points at the moment and is being targeted.
Karius has poor hands for a goalie, drops the ball a lot and is weak, palming the ball into the net yesterday and last week as well. I'm not sure you can coach that defect out of a keeper, unless he hasn't fully recovered from the broken hand (in which case he should be side-lined until he has) then I don't see any hope for him.
Karius has poor hands for a goalie, drops the ball a lot and is weak, palming the ball into the net yesterday and last week as well. I'm not sure you can coach that defect out of a keeper, unless he hasn't fully recovered from the broken hand (in which case he should be side-lined until he has) then I don't see any hope for him.
Karius.
We know for certain that Mignolet is bang average, and has aspects to his game that haven't improved in 2-3 seasons. With Karius at least we have a keeper who might arguably still be unsettled, or requiring confidence etc. At the moment I think they are performing at the same level and it would be extremely damning to drop Karius.
We know for certain that Mignolet is bang average, and has aspects to his game that haven't improved in 2-3 seasons. With Karius at least we have a keeper who might arguably still be unsettled, or requiring confidence etc. At the moment I think they are performing at the same level and it would be extremely damning to drop Karius.
I think it is something more deeper than just a GK coach. I think most players (GK) have cracked under the pressure of playing for us.
Over the years we have had a number of decent goalies who have gone onto have successful careers other clubs whilst failing miserablely with us.
Over the years we have had a number of decent goalies who have gone onto have successful careers other clubs whilst failing miserablely with us.
Like who?
Rather than 'excellent', I think the majority were just surprised that he wasn't howling and flapping on multiple occasions each game. At least that is how I viewed it. We have seen enough of Simon to know that he has fundamental flaws that won't be addressed.
Yeah. Let's not forget that quite a few people suggested we replace Mignolet with Bogdan last season.
It's not a great state of affairs though. Our defensive ineptitude is costing us so many points.
We're now six points behind Chelsea and the chasing pack, including City, Spurs and an improving Man Utd, are only one, three and six points respectively, behind us.
We don't want Chelsea and Arsenal to run away with it over this Xmas period, and nor can we afford too many slipups, otherwise we could be sixth by the end of the Xmas games.
I said at the time that he was being rushed into the first team before he was ready, and I recall being assured by many that he was going to be excellent. But I also said, if it was going to happen then Klopp would have to stick with him. You can't chop and change keepers, it wrecks both of them. We're stuck with Karius now. He's just going to have to learn on the job.
I recall those posts.
For me its Mignolet if the aim is to improve in the short term. If we're looking at the longer term stick with Karius
Ming will never be good enough. He's had more than enough chances to improve.
Karius has been garbage however there are a few examples of keepers that have been poor in their first season but have improved considerably given regular playing time. David De Gea is probably the best recent example, but if we look closer to home, Brad Friedel could have solved a lot of our keeper problems if we had more patience with him.
I'm not saying that Karius will improve, as I have no idea. But I'd stick with him and then make a decision in the summer.
Karius has been garbage however there are a few examples of keepers that have been poor in their first season but have improved considerably given regular playing time. David De Gea is probably the best recent example, but if we look closer to home, Brad Friedel could have solved a lot of our keeper problems if we had more patience with him.
I'm not saying that Karius will improve, as I have no idea. But I'd stick with him and then make a decision in the summer.
Karius has cost us 4 points in 2 games and knocked us out of the title race.
We were dominating these games before he dropped his clangers.
Ming wasn't playing badly enough to be dropped and now the situation is a pure mess.
This Karius twat needs to stay away from social media and the tattoo joints for a few weeks and concentrate on improving or he can fuck off.
We were dominating these games before he dropped his clangers.
Ming wasn't playing badly enough to be dropped and now the situation is a pure mess.
This Karius twat needs to stay away from social media and the tattoo joints for a few weeks and concentrate on improving or he can fuck off.
This is a tough call. So far Karius is worse than Mignolet however we have been watching Mignolet for 3 years and he just doesnt get any better. Karius on the other hand at least has the potential to improve but not if we keep dropping him. I guess we gotta gamble on Karius being a better keeper than we have seen so far or we are back in the market next summer.
So Carra is saying that Karius is too limp-wristed to be a top goalkeeper
I thought Carragher was out of order telling him to shut up and concentrate on his game. The guy was booked to do an interview ages ago, and he did it. The only thing he said was in response to a question about the criticism he'd had. I don;t know why Carra felt obliged to defend Gary bloody Neville about it. I'm sure Karius is working everyday to improve. Whether he will do so effectively or not is another matter, but agreeing to go ahead with a club-organised interview is the least of his failings.
This.
According to that article "The goalkeeper still gets some stiffness in the hand he broke pre-season" - which is a bit peculiar, given that the staff are so ultra-cautious about injured outfield players.
And stiffness in his hand would appear to be a good thing for a goalkeeper. Especially one who is accused of not having enough stiffness in his hands.
Someone's lying to us.
The MSM
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