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He's a got book coming out and theres some excerpts in the back of today's mirror.

He comes across as a bit of a dick to be honest , wish I'd not read it .

Still got plenty of time and love for pep though , he's a class act At the same time though if we got a big money offer an he was going abroad I'd not be overly fussed
 
I've seen every keeper we've had during Shanks' time and since, and IMO Pepe's top of the list. That said, too much of what he's been saying lately has been at best unwise, and at worst seemingly calculated to distance himself from the club and its supporters. I can understand a player wanting to keep his options open, but there is NO need to do it so publicly. If he goes before his form begins to deteriorate I'll regret the loss of LFC's best keeper of the modern era, but I'll regret it a fair bit less than I might have done if he'd kept his trap shut in public.

BTW these days player autobiogs aren't generally the thing to read if you want to go on liking them as individuals. IMO Carra comes out of his OK but Robbie and Stevie G are not flattered by theirs.
 
Reina: I Am Happy At Liverpool, We Can Win A Title
By Football Friends Published: 11th October 2011

Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina admits the clubs main objective this season is to finish in a Champions League spot but believes they have the potential to win a title.

The Spanish stopper has claimed the premier league is Liverpool’s priority and a top four finish the objective. Reina also took time to praise the clubs supporters, naming them the best in the world, and also retains he is happy in England and has no plans to return to his homeland any time soon. Reina said:

“The objective is to keep improving,” Reina said during a live webchat on Eurosport.com.

“If we peak well we can claim a major title. The main objective though is to return to the Champions League – so the Premier League is the priority.

“The supporters are dreaming of success, but it is a new project with renewed ambition. We have the best support in the world, they are always with us.

“It is too soon to predict the title – we are in a transition phase, rebuilding, and we hope to be back with the favourites soon.

“I have said it many times, but I am happy at Liverpool. I cannot yet see a time when I would return to Spain.”
 
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I've seen every keeper we've had during Shanks' time and since, and IMO Pepe's top of the list. That said, too much of what he's been saying lately has been at best unwise, and at worst seemingly calculated to distance himself from the club and its supporters. I can understand a player wanting to keep his options open, but there is NO need to do it so publicly. If he goes before his form begins to deteriorate I'll regret the loss of LFC's best keeper of the modern era, but I'll regret it a fair bit less than I might have done if he'd kept his trap shut in public.

BTW these days player autobiogs aren't generally the thing to read if you want to go on liking them as individuals. IMO Carra comes out of his OK but Robbie and Stevie G are not flattered by theirs.
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Must admit that I despised Carra's book. IMO Robbie and Stevie showed much more humility in their books than Carra did.

None of the books were great, but Carra's insistence of telling us how underrated he was and what a great passer he was really began to grate.
 
Yeah I'll go with that, carra and gerrard came across as complete spazzers in their books
 
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44132.msg1410855#msg1410855 date=1318323497]
I've seen every keeper we've had during Shanks' time and since, and IMO Pepe's top of the list. That said, too much of what he's been saying lately has been at best unwise, and at worst seemingly calculated to distance himself from the club and its supporters. I can understand a player wanting to keep his options open, but there is NO need to do it so publicly. If he goes before his form begins to deteriorate I'll regret the loss of LFC's best keeper of the modern era, but I'll regret it a fair bit less than I might have done if he'd kept his trap shut in public.

BTW these days player autobiogs aren't generally the thing to read if you want to go on liking them as individuals. IMO Carra comes out of his OK but Robbie and Stevie G are not flattered by theirs.
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Must admit that I despised Carra's book. IMO Robbie and Stevie showed much more humility in their books than Carra did.

None of the books were great, but Carra's insistence of telling us how underrated he was and what a great passer he was really began to grate.
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did carra say he was underrated in general or that his passing is underrated?
 
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44132.msg1410855#msg1410855 date=1318323497]
I've seen every keeper we've had during Shanks' time and since, and IMO Pepe's top of the list. That said, too much of what he's been saying lately has been at best unwise, and at worst seemingly calculated to distance himself from the club and its supporters. I can understand a player wanting to keep his options open, but there is NO need to do it so publicly. If he goes before his form begins to deteriorate I'll regret the loss of LFC's best keeper of the modern era, but I'll regret it a fair bit less than I might have done if he'd kept his trap shut in public.

BTW these days player autobiogs aren't generally the thing to read if you want to go on liking them as individuals. IMO Carra comes out of his OK but Robbie and Stevie G are not flattered by theirs.
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Must admit that I despised Carra's book. IMO Robbie and Stevie showed much more humility in their books than Carra did.

None of the books were great, but Carra's insistence of telling us how underrated he was and what a great passer he was really began to grate.
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did carra say he was underrated in general or that his passing is underrated?
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Both. Seemed to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder about the criticism he has taken over the years. Granted I can understand that to some extent, but I'm reading his book ffs, I obviously rate him and don't need it rammed down my throat about how good he is.
 
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44132.msg1410855#msg1410855 date=1318323497]
I've seen every keeper we've had during Shanks' time and since, and IMO Pepe's top of the list. That said, too much of what he's been saying lately has been at best unwise, and at worst seemingly calculated to distance himself from the club and its supporters. I can understand a player wanting to keep his options open, but there is NO need to do it so publicly. If he goes before his form begins to deteriorate I'll regret the loss of LFC's best keeper of the modern era, but I'll regret it a fair bit less than I might have done if he'd kept his trap shut in public.

BTW these days player autobiogs aren't generally the thing to read if you want to go on liking them as individuals. IMO Carra comes out of his OK but Robbie and Stevie G are not flattered by theirs.
[/quote]

Must admit that I despised Carra's book. IMO Robbie and Stevie showed much more humility in their books than Carra did.

None of the books were great, but Carra's insistence of telling us how underrated he was and what a great passer he was really began to grate.
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did carra say he was underrated in general or that his passing is underrated?
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Both. Seemed to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder about the criticism he has taken over the years. Granted I can understand that to some extent, but I'm reading his book ffs, I obviously rate him and don't need it rammed down my throat about how good he is.
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self recommendation is no praise
 
I expect a fair amount of attempted self-justification in an autobiog TBH. To me the question is whether I find any of it convincing, and I did with Carra to a much greater extent than I did with either Stevie or Robbie. Humility BTW is positively the last thing I got out of Stevie's book in particular.

Iss all abah' opinions innit Brian?
 
I've not read carra's book but I've seen snippets where he sounds like a bit of a tosser - isn't there a quote along the lines of 'that's when Jamie Carragher (note the 3rd person) emerged as a centre half of international pedigree'.

Also, I don't think he's anything like as clever as he's made out to be.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44132.msg1410878#msg1410878 date=1318327137]
I expect a fair amount of attempted self-justification in an autobiog TBH. To me the question is whether I find any of it convincing, and I did with Carra to a much greater extent than I did with either Stevie or Robbie. Humility BTW is positively the last thing I got out of Stevie's book in particular.

Iss all abah' opinions innit Brian?
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I agree with you about the convincing part, he didn't hold back much.

I just don't think the book was clever (some passages could have easily been omitted) and he really seemed bitter about an awful lot of things. This paragraph in particular should never have been in the book (what does he gain by writing it? It isn't respect, or at least I hope it's not):

'When my leg was broken in an horrific tackle by Lucas Neill in September 2003, my mates were ready to hunt him down if I gave the go-ahead.

A few weeks later I received a phone call. "You won't believe this, Jay. We're in the Trafford Centre and Lucas Neill is walking straight towards us. What do you reckon?"

Did I really want Neill to take a crack? "There's only one problem," added the voice. "Little Davey Thommo is with him."

That was that. I could hardly let one of my best mates, David Thompson, now a Blackburn player, become a witness to an assault. Besides he'd have recognised the attackers. The impromptu mission was aborted and I sent a text to Thommo telling him Neill should give him a hug of thanks.

As word got back to Blackburn about the near miss, or should that be hit, their coach Terry Darracott, a Scouser, appealed to one of my friends to call the boys off. I agreed.'


Anyway, to get the thread back on track, I agree with a lot of what Reina says and remember commenting at the time that Stevie and Carra should have come out and publicly supported the fans in their protests against the owners. I don't know if they actually thought it would benefit the club to keep quiet, or they didn't want to be perceived to be supporting Rafa, but I thought they could and should have done more.
 
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'that's when Jamie Carragher (note the 3rd person) emerged as a centre half of international pedigree'.

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oh gosh!!
I'm sure that is from the pen of his ghost writer rather than from carra himself. if that is carra himself, oh dear...
 
There's a problem with autobiographies nowadays, because the publishers insist on the writer including some outrageous bits that they can use in publicising the book when it comes out. Even Alastair Darling's recent book contained some strong stuff that duly got him into the media on publication.
 
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There's a problem with autobiographies nowadays, because the publishers insist on the writer including some outrageous bits that they can use in publicising the book when it comes out. Even Alastair Darling's recent book contained some strong stuff that duly got him into the media on publication.
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That's one of the things I don't understand about Fowlers book, even if he said something negative about someone he later went on to withdraw it. He had some negative comments about Geds decision to sell him, and then went on to say how Ged had tried to resign him when he was at Leeds. He barely said anything negative about Collymore (with the exception of some story about him falling out with Tony Warner because he sat in Warners chair) and then went on to say about how well they communicate on the pitch and ho all the negative stories about the two of them not speaking had been exaggerated.
 
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He chats that much different shit every day... Do you think he might be female?
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Ha, I'm fairly sure it's on eof many quotes that seems schizophrenic in nature due to timing.

If this book is coming out now it's fair to say much of it was written a while ago, & he's admitted his feelings towards the club have swung dramatically over the last two seasons as Rafa left, Roy destroyed & Kenny rebuilt the morale & club spirit.

Whilst I don't expect him to stay no matter what, if we give a good showing this season & get into Europe I don't expect him to go anywhere.
 
Soz if I'm quiffing, not had a chance to get on here much the last few days:


Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina has revealed an explosive row he had with defensive stalwart Jamie Carragher, which spilled over into the dressing room after beginning on the pitch.

Reina and Carragher, both mainstays of the Liverpool rearguard since the Spanish shot-stopper joined the Reds in 2005, clashed in an unnamed game because of a disagreement about passing options.

"The veins in our necks were bulging, our faces were red with anger and neither of us were going to back down," Reina said in his autobiography Pepe, which is being serialised in the Daily Mirror. "The row between me and Jamie Carragher started during the game - I can't even remember who we were playing against - carried on in the dressing room and didn't come to an end until we sent each other text messages apologising.

"He went crazy at me, screaming at me, and I was screaming back at him. We were like that for fully five minutes shouting at one another and getting our point across. When we got back into the dressing room the row started again and it was even rougher than it had been on the pitch.

"The other players were just totally silent, watching us giving each other hell. It wasn't even over anything major. It was just a difference of opinion over whether I should knock the ball long or [if] he should give me an angle for a short pass.

"I ended up kicking the ball out wide to where I thought Carra should be, but he wasn't there and it went out of play. He shouted at me: 'You really think you're Franz Beckenbauer and you're always trying to play short passes when you should just empty it.'

"I responded: 'If I know one thing it's that you definitely aren't Beckenbauer, but just give me a bit of support when I've got the ball so we can try and play instead of just kicking it down the pitch.'"

Meanwhile, Reina has lifted the lid on an occasion when he was at loggerheads with former Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez over alcohol consumption. "The biggest argument I had with Rafa was about a beer," Reina said. "We had lost 2-1 to Besiktas and not played too well. I decided to have a beer. I don't see a problem with that because for me it is healthier to do that than it is to have a glass of Coca-Cola or a drink like that.

"Suddenly, the bartender turned up and said: 'The club doctor, medical staff and manager have made it clear to me they do not want you to have a beer.' I still don't know why this was the case but whatever the reason, I was fuming. I grabbed my bags and stormed off to my room without even having dinner. That is how upset I was.

"For me, Rafa was in the wrong. It suggests the manager does not trust you to look after yourself in the right way. He saw it differently and, if he has a small weakness as a manager, it is that he did not have a massive career as a player before he moved into management."
 
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"For me, Rafa was in the wrong. It suggests the manager does not trust you to look after yourself in the right way. He saw it differently and, if he has a small weakness as a manager, it is that he did not have a massive career as a player before he moved into management."
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I knew this would all be Rafa's fault!

Where's Ross?

ROSS?? ROSS?
 
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Given that we're spending a lot of money now he's not going to move to teams like Arsenal or Valencia. If a top Italian side like Milan came calling then who knows.
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Malaga anyone?
 
Pepe needs to realise it doesnt make sense to pass it short to Carragher when he could save Carra a job and knock it long in the first place.
 
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"For me, Rafa was in the wrong. It suggests the manager does not trust you to look after yourself in the right way. He saw it differently and, if he has a small weakness as a manager, it is that he did not have a massive career as a player before he moved into management."
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I knew this would all be Rafa's fault!

Where's Ross?

ROSS?? ROSS?
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It's amazing how I'm right way before the evidence arrives isn't it, then everyone changes their mind to agree with me.

And it needs to be said - this stuff isn't Pepe Reina speculation so needs a new thread. Bumping old irrelevant threads is killing the discussion on the forum and annoying the fuck out of me.
 
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=44132.msg1411048#msg1411048 date=1318362644]

"For me, Rafa was in the wrong. It suggests the manager does not trust you to look after yourself in the right way. He saw it differently and, if he has a small weakness as a manager, it is that he did not have a massive career as a player before he moved into management."
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I knew this would all be Rafa's fault!

Where's Ross?

ROSS?? ROSS?
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It's amazing how I'm right way before the evidence arrives isn't it, then everyone changes their mind to agree with me.

And it needs to be said - this stuff isn't Pepe Reina speculation so needs a new thread. Bumping old irrelevant threads is killing the discussion on the forum and annoying the fuck out of me.
[/quote] You may have revealed a bit too much information there for your own good, Ross old chum.
 
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Pepe needs to realise it doesnt make sense to pass it short to Carragher when he could save Carra a job and knock it long in the first place.
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;D Smart thinking! ;D
 
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Anyone know if theres a pdf of this about?
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x2.
 
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x4
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4? How does this sequence go exactly? If I want to be next in line do I write x6, x8, or x16?
 
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