Reds to bid for Kjaer
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The offspring of Poulsen and Agger?
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=37366.msg1285741#msg1285741 date=1297770794]
Wolfsburg are considering Martin Skrtel. Straight swap for Kjaer?
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[quote author=Arnold Schwarzenegger link=topic=37366.msg1285741#msg1285741 date=1297770794]
DO IT! DO IT NOW!! I'M HERE, KILL ME!!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!![/quote]
Wolfsburg are considering Martin Skrtel. Straight swap for Kjaer?
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[quote author=Arnold Schwarzenegger link=topic=37366.msg1285741#msg1285741 date=1297770794]
DO IT! DO IT NOW!! I'M HERE, KILL ME!!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!![/quote]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37366.msg1285743#msg1285743 date=1297771125]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=37366.msg1285741#msg1285741 date=1297770794]
Wolfsburg are considering Martin Skrtel. Straight swap for Kjaer?
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[quote author=Arnold Schwarzenegger link=topic=37366.msg1285741#msg1285741 date=1297770794]
DO IT! DO IT NOW!! I'M HERE, KILL ME!!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!![/quote]
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YESSSSS
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=37366.msg1285741#msg1285741 date=1297770794]
Wolfsburg are considering Martin Skrtel. Straight swap for Kjaer?
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[quote author=Arnold Schwarzenegger link=topic=37366.msg1285741#msg1285741 date=1297770794]
DO IT! DO IT NOW!! I'M HERE, KILL ME!!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!![/quote]
[/quote]
YESSSSS
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1259999#msg1259999 date=1295785106]
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
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Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
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Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
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That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=37366.msg1285748#msg1285748 date=1297771964]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1259999#msg1259999 date=1295785106]
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[/quote]
Wow thats some praise. You think Subotic can be one of the greatest defender to play for Liverpool.
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1259999#msg1259999 date=1295785106]
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[/quote]
Wow thats some praise. You think Subotic can be one of the greatest defender to play for Liverpool.
[quote author=peekay link=topic=37366.msg1285754#msg1285754 date=1297773692]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=37366.msg1285748#msg1285748 date=1297771964]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1259999#msg1259999 date=1295785106]
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[/quote]
Wow thats some praise. You think Subotic can be one of the greatest defender to play for Liverpool.
[/quote]
Yeah, was my first thought as well - unless he means that "close" is still a fair way away. :-\
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=37366.msg1285748#msg1285748 date=1297771964]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1259999#msg1259999 date=1295785106]
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[/quote]
Wow thats some praise. You think Subotic can be one of the greatest defender to play for Liverpool.
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Yeah, was my first thought as well - unless he means that "close" is still a fair way away. :-\
Any defender we sign should have the potential to be one of the greatest ever. I think we are aim too low otherwise.
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=37366.msg1285759#msg1285759 date=1297776529]
[quote author=peekay link=topic=37366.msg1285754#msg1285754 date=1297773692]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=37366.msg1285748#msg1285748 date=1297771964]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1259999#msg1259999 date=1295785106]
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[/quote]
Wow thats some praise. You think Subotic can be one of the greatest defender to play for Liverpool.
[/quote]
Yeah, was my first thought as well - unless he means that "close" is still a fair way away. :-\
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Yeah, he does say 'as close as we can get'. I haven't seen anyone who is at the moment as good as Sami was at his peak. However Subotic at 22 is very young for a top class CB (Hyypiä was 26 when he signed) and sky is pretty much the limit on what he can achieve. Would be an exciting signing.
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[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=37366.msg1285748#msg1285748 date=1297771964]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1259999#msg1259999 date=1295785106]
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[/quote]
Wow thats some praise. You think Subotic can be one of the greatest defender to play for Liverpool.
[/quote]
Yeah, was my first thought as well - unless he means that "close" is still a fair way away. :-\
[/quote]
Yeah, he does say 'as close as we can get'. I haven't seen anyone who is at the moment as good as Sami was at his peak. However Subotic at 22 is very young for a top class CB (Hyypiä was 26 when he signed) and sky is pretty much the limit on what he can achieve. Would be an exciting signing.
imho what marked sami as special wasn't just his heading ability (which was majestic) it was his ability to read the game.
he hardly ever needed to dive in or make reckless challenges because he knew where to position himself to snuff our danger before it became a problem.
how many times did you see sami make a last ditch tackle? how many yellow cards did sami pick up in a 10 year career?
he had no pace to lose so he was (and is) a consistent performer.
imho second only to jockey as the best ever liverpool defender.
he hardly ever needed to dive in or make reckless challenges because he knew where to position himself to snuff our danger before it became a problem.
how many times did you see sami make a last ditch tackle? how many yellow cards did sami pick up in a 10 year career?
he had no pace to lose so he was (and is) a consistent performer.
imho second only to jockey as the best ever liverpool defender.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37366.msg1285767#msg1285767 date=1297779078]
imho what marked sami as special wasn't just his heading ability (which was majestic) it was his ability to read the game.
he hardly ever needed to dive in or make reckless challenges because he knew where to position himself to snuff our danger before it became a problem.
how many times did you see sami make a last ditch tackle? how many yellow cards did sami pick up in a 10 year career?
he had no pace to lose so he was (and is) a consistent performer.
imho second only to jockey as the best ever liverpool defender.
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Great post. Especially the point about yellow cards. I remember in the treble season, he played 63 games without getting a single booking. All on his way to being voted on the European team of the year.
I also think Sami is criminally underrated by non-Liverpool fans. I honestly think he was THE best defender in the world in the last decade. Certainly the best defender I've ever seen and that includes your Nestas and Cannavaros.
imho what marked sami as special wasn't just his heading ability (which was majestic) it was his ability to read the game.
he hardly ever needed to dive in or make reckless challenges because he knew where to position himself to snuff our danger before it became a problem.
how many times did you see sami make a last ditch tackle? how many yellow cards did sami pick up in a 10 year career?
he had no pace to lose so he was (and is) a consistent performer.
imho second only to jockey as the best ever liverpool defender.
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Great post. Especially the point about yellow cards. I remember in the treble season, he played 63 games without getting a single booking. All on his way to being voted on the European team of the year.
I also think Sami is criminally underrated by non-Liverpool fans. I honestly think he was THE best defender in the world in the last decade. Certainly the best defender I've ever seen and that includes your Nestas and Cannavaros.
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=37366.msg1285748#msg1285748 date=1297771964]
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[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[/quote]
Hummels is by far the better footballer and has much more brains than Subotic.
Subotic may have a more physical style but Hummels is at least one class above Subotic.
And both are over 1,90 m and weigh about 90 kg.
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1259999#msg1259999 date=1295785106]
[quote author=jan link=topic=37366.msg1259318#msg1259318 date=1295707702]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=37366.msg1259306#msg1259306 date=1295707547]
I like Subotic, think we should be after him
[/quote]
Agreed, Subotic looks fucking boss
[/quote]
Hummels is head and shoulders above him.
[/quote]
That's not true at all. They are both equally talented players who would improve our team straight away.
I think Subotic is as close as we can get to Hyypia clone with a lil extra pace.
[/quote]
Hummels is by far the better footballer and has much more brains than Subotic.
Subotic may have a more physical style but Hummels is at least one class above Subotic.
And both are over 1,90 m and weigh about 90 kg.
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=37366.msg1285768#msg1285768 date=1297779483]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37366.msg1285767#msg1285767 date=1297779078]
imho what marked sami as special wasn't just his heading ability (which was majestic) it was his ability to read the game.
he hardly ever needed to dive in or make reckless challenges because he knew where to position himself to snuff our danger before it became a problem.
how many times did you see sami make a last ditch tackle? how many yellow cards did sami pick up in a 10 year career?
he had no pace to lose so he was (and is) a consistent performer.
imho second only to jockey as the best ever liverpool defender.
[/quote]
Great post. Especially the point about yellow cards. I remember in the treble season, he played 63 games without getting a single booking. All on his way to being voted on the European team of the year.
I also think Sami is criminally underrated by non-Liverpool fans. I honestly think he was THE best defender in the world in the last decade. Certainly the best defender I've ever seen and that includes your Nestas and Cannavaros.
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I think the same. I havent seen Puyol, Nesta and Cannavaro play on a weekly basis. But Sami was the greatest defender I have ever seen. His goal threat, ability to score in CL quarter finals ;D adds another dimension to Sami as a footballer.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=37366.msg1285767#msg1285767 date=1297779078]
imho what marked sami as special wasn't just his heading ability (which was majestic) it was his ability to read the game.
he hardly ever needed to dive in or make reckless challenges because he knew where to position himself to snuff our danger before it became a problem.
how many times did you see sami make a last ditch tackle? how many yellow cards did sami pick up in a 10 year career?
he had no pace to lose so he was (and is) a consistent performer.
imho second only to jockey as the best ever liverpool defender.
[/quote]
Great post. Especially the point about yellow cards. I remember in the treble season, he played 63 games without getting a single booking. All on his way to being voted on the European team of the year.
I also think Sami is criminally underrated by non-Liverpool fans. I honestly think he was THE best defender in the world in the last decade. Certainly the best defender I've ever seen and that includes your Nestas and Cannavaros.
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I think the same. I havent seen Puyol, Nesta and Cannavaro play on a weekly basis. But Sami was the greatest defender I have ever seen. His goal threat, ability to score in CL quarter finals ;D adds another dimension to Sami as a footballer.
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=37366.msg1285746#msg1285746 date=1297771828]
Looks more like a Lucas.
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Poulsen hair and Agger tattoo's..
Looks more like a Lucas.
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Poulsen hair and Agger tattoo's..
is this where the new interest on here in Kjaer comes from ?.............
Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur have been alerted to the availability of Wolfsburg’s Simon Kjaer after the German club hinted a summer move could be on the cards.
Reports from Talksport say that Liverpool had an offer turned down for the Danish international in the January window but Steve McClaren’s old side are now apparently willing to sell.
Spurs boss Harry Redknapp is also rumoured to be interested in the 21-year-old but may have to offload one or two of his central defenders to make room for Kjaer.
The defender could prioritise a move to Liverpool though with Danish team mate Daniel Agger currently playing his football at Anfield.
Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur have been alerted to the availability of Wolfsburg’s Simon Kjaer after the German club hinted a summer move could be on the cards.
Reports from Talksport say that Liverpool had an offer turned down for the Danish international in the January window but Steve McClaren’s old side are now apparently willing to sell.
Spurs boss Harry Redknapp is also rumoured to be interested in the 21-year-old but may have to offload one or two of his central defenders to make room for Kjaer.
The defender could prioritise a move to Liverpool though with Danish team mate Daniel Agger currently playing his football at Anfield.
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote] Great to see that Sami is still up there with the best of them
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote] Great to see that Sami is still up there with the best of them
[quote author=the count link=topic=37366.msg1285814#msg1285814 date=1297787396]
is this where the new interest on here in Kjaer comes from ?.............
Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur have been alerted to the availability of Wolfsburg’s Simon Kjaer after the German club hinted a summer move could be on the cards.
Reports from Talksport say that Liverpool had an offer turned down for the Danish international in the January window but Steve McClaren’s old side are now apparently willing to sell.
Spurs boss Harry Redknapp is also rumoured to be interested in the 21-year-old but may have to offload one or two of his central defenders to make room for Kjaer.
The defender could prioritise a move to Liverpool though with Danish team mate Daniel Agger currently playing his football at Anfield.
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ready made defensive partnership
🙂
is this where the new interest on here in Kjaer comes from ?.............
Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur have been alerted to the availability of Wolfsburg’s Simon Kjaer after the German club hinted a summer move could be on the cards.
Reports from Talksport say that Liverpool had an offer turned down for the Danish international in the January window but Steve McClaren’s old side are now apparently willing to sell.
Spurs boss Harry Redknapp is also rumoured to be interested in the 21-year-old but may have to offload one or two of his central defenders to make room for Kjaer.
The defender could prioritise a move to Liverpool though with Danish team mate Daniel Agger currently playing his football at Anfield.
[/quote]
ready made defensive partnership
🙂
I'd have kjaer as I think he's good and hopefully would be more consistent than skrtel. Saying that however I would still prefer subotic. can't comment on hummels but if he's as half as fos as being made out on here then we should be in for him.
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
Ya, you have got to give some room for the German bias. There is not a lot to separate between them, and if we are looking for someone who can partner Agger or Wilson in the long run, Subotic would be as good a bet as anyone. But anyway they would ask silly money for him, and this is all probably a moot point.
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
Ya, you have got to give some room for the German bias. There is not a lot to separate between them, and if we are looking for someone who can partner Agger or Wilson in the long run, Subotic would be as good a bet as anyone. But anyway they would ask silly money for him, and this is all probably a moot point.
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[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
Ya, you have got to give some room for the German bias. There is not a lot to separate between them, and if we are looking for someone who can partner Agger or Wilson in the long run, Subotic would be as good a bet as anyone. But anyway they would ask silly money for him, and this is all probably a moot point.
[/quote] Aren't Borussia Dortmund running away with the Bundesliga?
They will probably fancy a shot a the Champions league next season as well.
Can't exactly see them breaking up their team and selling their best players as nice as it might be to see some of them play for Liverpool
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
Ya, you have got to give some room for the German bias. There is not a lot to separate between them, and if we are looking for someone who can partner Agger or Wilson in the long run, Subotic would be as good a bet as anyone. But anyway they would ask silly money for him, and this is all probably a moot point.
[/quote] Aren't Borussia Dortmund running away with the Bundesliga?
They will probably fancy a shot a the Champions league next season as well.
Can't exactly see them breaking up their team and selling their best players as nice as it might be to see some of them play for Liverpool
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
I see your beloved Mertesacker weighing in at an impressive #30.
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
I see your beloved Mertesacker weighing in at an impressive #30.
Kelly is already a first teamer and gaining experience not to mention confidence. Move him to the middle because most of us think that he'll be Carra's direct replacement anyway. Magic back to RB, get in Coentrao or Taiwo at LB with Aurelio as an able deputy.
Blow our budget on attacking talent which includes flying wingers.
Blow our budget on attacking talent which includes flying wingers.
I hear this fellow is available
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[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
I see your beloved Mertesacker weighing in at an impressive #30.
[/quote]
After your infamous efforts in 'that' thread I thought you've put it to rest.
Whatever.
Watched a football match in the last few months, Gene? Or do you still prefer reading stats?
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
I see your beloved Mertesacker weighing in at an impressive #30.
[/quote]
After your infamous efforts in 'that' thread I thought you've put it to rest.
Whatever.
Watched a football match in the last few months, Gene? Or do you still prefer reading stats?
T
the_khl
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Kjær has struggled to adapt in the Bundesliga so far with Wolfsburg, apart from a handful of games he's not shown the same standards as he did in Italy.
However this could be a blessing in disguise for him as a footballer as he haven't - untill now at least - experienced any kind of adversity career-wise. Now he's got every chance to learn from it and come out even stronger than before he left Palermo.
I'm convinced his potential is still massive but now is not the time so spunk big on him. A straight swap with Skrtel - albeit the latter has shown some form of late - would be extremely tempting however.
However this could be a blessing in disguise for him as a footballer as he haven't - untill now at least - experienced any kind of adversity career-wise. Now he's got every chance to learn from it and come out even stronger than before he left Palermo.
I'm convinced his potential is still massive but now is not the time so spunk big on him. A straight swap with Skrtel - albeit the latter has shown some form of late - would be extremely tempting however.
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=37366.msg1285830#msg1285830 date=1297789446]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
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I see your beloved Mertesacker weighing in at an impressive #30.
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After your infamous efforts in 'that' thread I thought you've put it to rest.
Whatever.
Watched a football match in the last few months, Gene? Or do you still prefer reading stats?
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LOL, there's no need to get upset or defensive about it. I didn't mean to embarrass you and I really don't think there's any need for you to try to be mean to me.
But you have to admit there are some inconsistencies in what your saying about players on here. You want us to take this Hummel chap seriously and you tell us to look at some table of stats showing how good a defender he is. But you ignore what the same stats say about another player you want us to buy, Mertesacker. So either you think the stats are accurate or not. Either way, you're being a silly billy.
The bigger irony is that you then criticize me about stats when just a few posts earlier you've tried to make a case for a player being the best defender in Germany, based on....wait for it.... a table of stats!
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=37366.msg1285830#msg1285830 date=1297789446]
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37366.msg1285773#msg1285773 date=1297780308]
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2010-11/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html
'Kicker' magazine's list of Germany's top defenders.
Hummels tops the list with Subotic being in third position.
Maybe we should get both.
[/quote]
I see your beloved Mertesacker weighing in at an impressive #30.
[/quote]
After your infamous efforts in 'that' thread I thought you've put it to rest.
Whatever.
Watched a football match in the last few months, Gene? Or do you still prefer reading stats?
[/quote]
LOL, there's no need to get upset or defensive about it. I didn't mean to embarrass you and I really don't think there's any need for you to try to be mean to me.
But you have to admit there are some inconsistencies in what your saying about players on here. You want us to take this Hummel chap seriously and you tell us to look at some table of stats showing how good a defender he is. But you ignore what the same stats say about another player you want us to buy, Mertesacker. So either you think the stats are accurate or not. Either way, you're being a silly billy.
The bigger irony is that you then criticize me about stats when just a few posts earlier you've tried to make a case for a player being the best defender in Germany, based on....wait for it.... a table of stats!
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