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Rickie Lambert

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Ryan

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I see Balotelli's got a 22 page thread with 630 odd entires decrying his hapless efforts in it on the first page of this thread.

About time Rickie got something similar. Cos by God he's looked fucking useless so far. You've gotta call it like you see it, and sorry Rickie lad but you look like some bloke plucked off the Kop and handed a few games in the #9 shirt.

Slower than an ice age, turns about as quick as milk, and has scored less goals than Alberto Moreno. All in all, he's looked embarrassingly bad.
 
He gaff.. I call him Grandad.

Beyond useless, I just don't know how his style will fit in with this team.. Strange signing
 
He's certainly not the answer to our goals issue but I reckon that's harsh.

I think he's started about 1 more match than Toure and I'll bet he's gotten a much higher percentage of shots on target than Mario. I haven't looked but I wouldn't be surprised if he's gotten a greater number of shots on target than Mario as well - despite playing a fraction of the minutes.


He's supposed to be our number 3 or number 4 striker but, with Sturridge out and Mario having played very poorly thus far he's been turned to for some answers. No denying he's not delivered goals and he's never going to outrun Suarez. That said, I actually think he's provided better performances than his Italian team mate. He absolutely doesn't have the upside that Mario has if he ever gets on form but nor is his attitude as soul destroying when not banging in the goals.

I thought Borini oscillated between good and embarrassing against Swansea. He delivered a great ball for Mario to get our first but I personally had wanted to see Lambert spend some time with Balotelli. Rodgers, no argument, made the right decision but I'd like to see it at least a couple of times.
 
I thought he linked up well in the cameo he got on Saturday.

He needs a run of games to be judged fairly imho.
 
He hasn't been great far from it but Lambert's hardly had much of a chance either.

I thought he made a positive impact when he came on against S'ton opening game, and again on Saturday vs Hull.

Whatever people feel about his performances for us, he's a much better player than people think/thought.

Goes without saying but he needs a goal, could very well see the real Rickie Lambert then.
 
I think that display would suggest Borini is certainly the best of our underwhelming options to pair with Balotelli, but the hive mind hates him so...
 
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There really isn't much to go on as far as LFC stats are concerned !

As Farky said. Borini next to Balo or Lambert is about as potent as we've got at the moment. I've been banging this diamond 4-4-2 for a while now. With our current players it is clearly the way to go ..just wish Rodgers would play it more often.

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I suspect many of us see it the same way for having 2 up front. After Sturridge and Mario, however, Brendan clearly feels similarly to how Jose described his own strikers last season.

The question is whether that extra quality we derive from Mario by giving him a partner is worth the sacrifice that Rodgers clearly feels he is making by giving up a spot on the pitch to either Rickie or Borini.

At this point we don't have enough data to make that evaluation whereas Rodgers obviously thinks he's seen enough in training.

I'm with most - I'd like to see it in practice before accepting Rodgers conclusion.

I guess there's always the possibility that Rodgers thinks by getting Balo to play on his own now will reap plenty of benefits when he gets the chance to partner him with Sturridge.
 
I thought Lambert did pretty well in this game. Held the ball up and brought his teammates into play every time. The attacks rarely broke down with him and he was making the kind of runs I wish Balotelli would make. Yes, there was not enough cutting edge, but that might come with more game time and confidence. At this point, if we play with only 1 striker up front, I would go with Lambert.
 
I really do think if he'd got a goal off his arse in pre-season and then another in the first league game or two he'd be fine now. He would have had more game time and his confidence would have been boosted. He's obviously been disappointing so far but it's one of those signings that could have worked out very differently. Fine margins.
 
Shame he missed that penalty in pre sesason. A goal would have eased his nerves.
He was decent yesterday but had a good cameo on saturday.

Hopefully he'll get a goal soon. He looks nothing like the player he was for Soton.
Confidence, adapting to life at at top club - I dont know.
I want him to do well though.
 
Imagine if he'd shot (and probably would have scored) against City instead of passing, it would have done him wonders. I still think he's a great option to have in reserve, his goal will come.
 
If his confidence wasn't low enough already - I thought Coutinho wasn't really helpful with some of his reaction to Lambert's inability to get to the end of his passes. He was making some passes that Sturridge or Suarez would've been able to burst past the defender to get to with their pace, but not Lambert. And then he'd gesticulate at Lambert for not making the runs to meet the ball. I wonder how he'd feel if his team mates swung balls at him a metre over his head and expected him to control them, and then started to moan at him for not jumping higher.
 
I said it in the summer he's like a lad that won a competition through the make a wish foundation to play for the club.
Thank fuck he didn't come on against Madrid it would have been embarrassing.
It's a shame because he's a top bloke who's probably trying far too hard.
 
The question is whether that extra quality we derive from Mario by giving him a partner is worth the sacrifice that Rodgers clearly feels he is making by giving up a spot on the pitch to either Rickie or Borini.

At this point we don't have enough data to make that evaluation whereas Rodgers obviously thinks he's seen enough in training.

I'd say we do. The only 2 goals Mario has scored have come from a) Spurs - paired with Sturridge and b) Swansea - paired with Borini ! However it's not just the goals, it's that we look more dangerous and create more too. And conceded just 1 in 180 mins.
 
He's certainly not the answer to our goals issue but I reckon that's harsh.

I think he's started about 1 more match than Toure and I'll bet he's gotten a much higher percentage of shots on target than Mario. I haven't looked but I wouldn't be surprised if he's gotten a greater number of shots on target than Mario as well - despite playing a fraction of the minutes.


He's supposed to be our number 3 or number 4 striker but, with Sturridge out and Mario having played very poorly thus far he's been turned to for some answers. No denying he's not delivered goals and he's never going to outrun Suarez. That said, I actually think he's provided better performances than his Italian team mate. He absolutely doesn't have the upside that Mario has if he ever gets on form but nor is his attitude as soul destroying when not banging in the goals.

I thought Borini oscillated between good and embarrassing against Swansea. He delivered a great ball for Mario to get our first but I personally had wanted to see Lambert spend some time with Balotelli. Rodgers, no argument, made the right decision but I'd like to see it at least a couple of times.

The thing is, there's absolutely no point in a number 3/4 striker if he needs half a dozen games to play his way into some form. He needs to be capable of making an impact off the bench.

I feel a bit sorry for treacle toes. The weight of expectation seems to have crippled him, and Rodgers has shown very little confidence in him, persisting with Balotelli on his own despite acknowledging that he's better with a partner, and preferring Sterling on his own up front when that didn't work, He's better than he's shown so far, no doubt, but even factoring that in he's nowhere near good enough. Movement seems to fundamentally disagree with him, too. Not only is he ponderously slow, he looks knackered ALL THE TIME. Which renders our defending from the front policy utterly ineffective.

I don't think he'll have enough games to play is way into any kind of form. We'll buy another striker in January and his opportunities will be even more limited.
 
He's not had enough game time. It's unfair on the lad to judge him on the odd 10mins here and there. He's playing shite at the moment, but if he'd had more game time it might have been different. Luckily we don't 'have' to play him in this form. He's meant to be doing alright on the training ground.
 
It's odd how low in confidence he is. He was always going to get a free pass from us for a while. We all knew he was coming in as 3rd/4th choice and we found it refreshing that we signed a player who would happily walk to Anfield to get a game for us. We admired his passion for the club and everyone was willing to get behind him. However, he is playing like the weight of the Kop is on his shoulders. Maybe he has self esteem issues and doesn't think he is good enough. The game against City highlighted this for me. Slap a Southampton shirt on Rickie and he was pinging in those shots and chances without even thinking. The Liverpool shirt has added pressure to his game and his play is stifled and he doesn't look comfortable.

I did like his little cameo against Hull. I'll continue to support him. Maybe he also needs Sturridge back. Yep that's it. Sturridge will save us all.
 
The thing is, there's absolutely no point in a number 3/4 striker if he needs half a dozen games to play his way into some form. He needs to be capable of making an impact off the bench.

Exactly Del. I didn't foresee this problem at all. I was happy to have Lambert as 3rd and 4th choice because I didn't see confidence issues being a problem. I was under the impression he would be raring to get minutes and come of the bench without causing any fuss. He knew he was going to play a bit part role so being on the bench shouldn't affect him too much. However with Sturridge out and Balo miss firing there is added pressure on Lambert any time he on the pitch. He must be gutted that his 'return' has played out like this so far.
 
I'd say we do. The only 2 goals Mario has scored have come from a) Spurs - paired with Sturridge and b) Swansea - paired with Borini ! However it's not just the goals, it's that we look more dangerous and create more too. And conceded just 1 in 180 mins.
Froggy, he didn't score against Spurs.

He scored against Ludogorets.
 
Doh ! Does that mean my whole theory is down the spout ? Can't we pretend he scored against Spurs ?
I don't remember if we had a second striker on when he scored against Ludo.

Either way Balotelli Borini is the way to go. But I wouldn't be upset if Lambert started for Borini either.

Sunderland played Borini at LM for large parts of last season by the way.
 
I've not seen a player this low on confidence for ages. It's really painful to watch.

On the bright side you're lucky I've forgotten the exact argument we had about him, or I'd be bringing it up again and winning.
 
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