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Rogue Tory tried to delay Hillsborough

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[size=12pt]Tory MP Christopher Chope roundly condemned for Hillsborough debate move as Prime Minister David Cameron steps in[/size]



by Luke Traynor, Liverpool Daily Post
Oct 13 2011

A TORY MP was forced to make a hasty climbdown after an apparent move that could have delayed the Hillsborough debate.

Christopher Chope was roundly condemned around Parliament yesterday for his objection that threatened the schedule of the long-awaited tragedy discussion.

But Prime Minister David Cameron gave an assurance in his weekly Question Time to effectively silence the Dorset politician.

And, in the Commons last night, next Monday’s debate was confirmed.

Chope, a 64-year-old barrister, provoked the ire of many when he questioned why a debate on MPs’ own pensions, timetabled before the disaster debate on Monday, was lasting for only two hours.

If his objection was upheld, it would have meant the much-anticipated Hillsborough item could have been cut drastically short.

Now, Chope – the son of a judge – has been comprehensively shouted down by heavyweights PM David Cameron and Leader of the Commons Sir George Young. Chope has spoken to the Daily Post and attempted to defend his ill-advised objection on Monday night.

He said: “They wanted to pass a timetabling motion, that would see the pension debate go on for two hours, on the nod, without proper Parliamentary procedure.

“The objection is to the timetable being done without any discussion about it. The Government seems to want to limit the pension debate.”

Asked if he was aware his objection could crucially impinge on the Hillsborough debate, with many families who lost loved ones travelling down to London to attend, Chope responded: “That is nonsense. The Hillsborough debate is not in jeopardy. It was not my intention to lead people to think otherwise.”

Yesterday, Mr Cameron publicly announced: “We will not allow anything to eat into this very important debate.”

Shadow health secretary Andy Burnham, who has long campaigned for the Hillsborough families, added: “Around 140,000 people signed the petition and they will regard what’s just happened with great dismay.”

He added: “Surely it cannot be right for one member to stand up because he wants to talk about his own pension to deny the opportunity for those people to debate the important issues relating to the Hillsborough disaster and the huge injustice that was done to the families and the people of Liverpool.”

Chope appeared to find little or no allies in his bid to potentially lengthen the pension debate at the expense of Hillsborough.

Cries of “shame” rang around the Commons when the matter was brought up yesterday.

Jamie Reed, Labour MP for Copeland, showed his disgust towards Chope, adding it was “something which I think should and must haunt him for the rest of his days”.

Wirral South MP Alison McGovern expressed her frustration towards Chope, saying: “I am angry that one rogue MP has tried to trample over the feelings of families who have waited so long to get answers to questions they have had for over 22 years. I hope the Leader of the House sees sense and leaves the day’s business as it was. The importance of this issue to the people of Merseyside cannot be underestimated”.

Sheila Coleman, spokeswoman for the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, said: “The families didn’t need this added insecurity. It seems to be hurdle after hurdle at the moment. I was with Steve Kelly yesterday, who lost his brother in Sheffield, and when the news came out about the possible delay, he said, ‘We’ve been delayed 22 years, what’s a bit longer?’ Chope has just generated anger which is just not necessary.”



CHRISTOPHER CHOPE, right, born in Putney, is member of Parliament for Christchurch, Dorset.

With the nickname “Chopper”, he attended Queen’s College at the University of St Andrew’s and was awarded an OBE in 1982.

The Londoner was involved in the expenses scandal, after claiming £136,992 in 2007/08.

This included claiming £881 to repair a sofa.

[size=12pt]Controversially, he was responsible for the blocking of a Bill to protect the world's poorest countries from debt sharks’ use of “vulture funds”, despite his party's support for the Bill.[/size]

The politician was chairman of the Thatcherite Conservative Way Forward group.


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The senior police office in charge that day lives in his constituency.

Coincidence? I think not.

This fella's a cunt though, he's voted against gay rights, minimum wage, tackling vulture funds & numerous other things any right thinking person would advocate.
 
and yet he is a member of Parliament, all those Southern Tories must love what he stands for, they keep voting him in.......
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47169.msg1411511#msg1411511 date=1318503682]
The senior police office in charge that day lives in his constituency.

Coincidence? I think not.

This fella's a cunt though, he's voted against gay rights, minimum wage, tackling vulture funds & numerous other things any right thinking person would advocate.
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Disagree with the bold part. Many right thinking people disagree with the minimum wage.
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47169.msg1411513#msg1411513 date=1318503956]
and yet he is a member of Parliament, all those Southern Tories must love what he stands for, they keep voting him in.......
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they need a bit less Daily Mail and bit more Morning Star, eh mate?


i agree refugee, there are good reasons to oppose the minimum wage imo. i'm not massively against it, but it has its harmful effects like most government intervention in the free market.
 
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47169.msg1411511#msg1411511 date=1318503682]
The senior police office in charge that day lives in his constituency.

Coincidence? I think not.

This fella's a cunt though, he's voted against gay rights, minimum wage, tackling vulture funds & numerous other things any right thinking person would advocate.
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Disagree with the bold part. Many right thinking people disagree with the minimum wage.
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Actually - they woudl be wrong thinking in that case. F A C T
 
Lets bring back the Mills and child labor while your at it eh?

How dare people work for a decent wage under a Tory Government
 
It is stunning that even today there still exists such blatant politicking of such base values.... unbelievable... the neck of the man to get up KNOWING full well he would be shouted down but still doing it... for what?? to insult the people of Liverpool?? OK i know that merseyside is hardly a tory stronghold but even still im sure Cameron would prefer that his members dont get up in the chamber and insult an entire city...

WHY?? So to make sure all the vested interests he no doubt has been currying his whole life can see that he tried at least to maintain the cover up for them??... its an absolute disgrace.

Shame on the man.

He should be sacked for that. End of.
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47169.msg1411519#msg1411519 date=1318504597]
Lets bring back the Mills and child labor while your at it eh?

How dare people work for a decent wage under a Tory Government
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You understand that any kind of wage bargaining has the potential to increase unemployment, right? It's not without its down sides, that's just a simple fact of supply and demand.
 
Thats like arguing that child labour in SE Asia sweat shops is a good thing as it brings an income to an otherwise starving population.

Which glosses over the fact that capitalism is exploting imposed poverty to maximise profits.
 
Walton MP Steve Rotheram stood up during PM's question time and told David Cameron to get a grip of his backbenchers. Cameron didn't even attempt to put any spin on this response, just said the debate is going ahead as planned on Monday.

You would expect that Christopher Chope will be getting a visit from the Tory's 'Malcolm Tucker'.
 
PM's QT is on BBC Parliment isnt it? It might not be, but it would be the only real use that channel would ever have.
 
Just want to say that Peter is 100% correct.

To add to his statements, there are multiple opinions on the minimum wage with loons and right minded people on both sides.

I can't be arsed arguing it any further, certain posters do not listen to any form of reasoning when it comes to politics / economics or Labour v Tory and there isn't any point. To say no right minded people were/are against the minimum wage is wrong though.
 
The term 'right-minded' is an incredibly ambiguous one in the first place. Hardly the basis for a debate!
 
Indeed it is going to turn into another political thread and we know where they end up.

He has been put in his place, Cameron has done and said the right things......................move on there is nothing to see around here
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47169.msg1411513#msg1411513 date=1318503956]
and yet he is a member of Parliament, all those Southern Tories must love what he stands for, they keep voting him in.......
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How many people actually know what their individual MPs think of any particular issue?
 
*looks inside, is surprised it was the minimum wage comment & not the gay rights one that causes the kerfuffle, shrugs, chuckles, & leaves*
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=47169.msg1411712#msg1411712 date=1318530160]
*looks inside, is surprised it was the minimum wage comment & not the gay rights one that causes the kerfuffle, shrugs, chuckles, & leaves*
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On the basis there are more grabbers than gayers in here.....yes
 
;D[quote author=tombrown link=topic=47169.msg1411530#msg1411530 date=1318505756]
Thats like arguing that child labour in SE Asia sweat shops is a good thing as it brings an income to an otherwise starving population.

Which glosses over the fact that capitalism is exploting imposed poverty to maximise profits.
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And your comments gloss over the fact that before child labour can be properly addressed then cultural mores, child prostitution, poverty and 3rd world corruption need to be properly considered and actioned. Whilst not condoning child labour in any way your response is far too simplistic for such a profound issue.
 
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