Thanks. That was the piece of info I was missing.
So we're on the hunt for a new manager
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Thanks. That was the piece of info I was missing.
Do you still seriously think all we need is a central midfielder? If we have 30m to spend this summer and we spend it all just on a CM, i'll cry.
Well now that we have attacking full backs and it is all going so swimmingly.
I wouldn't disagree with that, but even if they had 75mil to spunk on signings its the wages that are the problem. The owners have expressed a determination to reduce the wage bill and the suspected outgoing players aren't going to release much leeway there. Considering we are overloaded with average players it is amazing how large the wage bill is - £129mil last year. I really don't see us getting anybody significant this summer unless Suarez goes.
I think we can improve the team if we spend shrewdly.
Look at the players Valencia have managed to get since they sold off their crown jewels. Ditto Newcastle. Ditto a lot of other clubs.
The road to recovery will start when we take more of a tier 2 club approach in the transfer market and stop trying to make grand Real Madrid esque statements in the transfer market. Unless you can attract the premier talent it's really not worth doing.
Look at the players Valencia have managed to get since they sold off their crown jewels. Ditto Newcastle. Ditto a lot of other clubs.
The road to recovery will start when we take more of a tier 2 club approach in the transfer market and stop trying to make grand Real Madrid esque statements in the transfer market. Unless you can attract the premier talent it's really not worth doing.
Look at Spurs and even Arsenal.
that's where our problems lie, anyone with eyes can see it. we aren't solid enough in CM hence we can't commit bodies going forwards (because we're terrified of the counter attack) resulting in isolated attackers and half chances and we don't give enough shield to the defenders hence an inability to keep consistent clean sheets. plain as the nose on your face.
Exactly
Fucking exactly
It's not how much you spend, it's how you spend it.
Spending wisely is better that spending loads.
One of the best defences in the league though neil
well, quite.
No it's not, anyone with eyes can see our problem is with our attacking players/wingers. The reason our strikers look isolated is because there is no one to link the midfield to them.
It's not how much we have to spend. The issue is entrusting it to a manager you no longer have confidence in.
If I were the owner and I thought Dalglish wasn't going to be around 2 months later, I wouldn't let him spend a mil.
And if I were a player, I sure won't be joining.
If I were the owner and I thought Dalglish wasn't going to be around 2 months later, I wouldn't let him spend a mil.
And if I were a player, I sure won't be joining.
I agree and disagree at the same time.
no, the problem comes with give an attacker the ball standing off him and then expecting him to on his own ghost past five players and score. look at the chelsea against chelsea when we commited more bodies to the attack and just gambled on not getting caught on the counter attack. it's our our formation, the attackers starting position on the pitch, the amount of players we are willing to commit forwards.
carroll wins the majority of his headers but it makes bugger all difference because there is no one near him to latch onto the second ball. if we all pushed up to carroll and THEN he won all the headers we'd have a field day in the opposition penalty box (again, look at the chelsea game as an example). we aren't commit bodies forwards because we don't trust the likes of gerrard, henderson and spearing to snuff out a lightning fast counter attack.
everyone is entitled to their opinion and imho, that's were our problem lies. sure, we need better attackers but if we are looking to maximise the squad paying the minium of money THAT is where you spend the money because improving central midfield will also improve our ability to attack AND defend.
for the record I'm not exactly enamoured with our attacers either but I just don't see us getting the money needed to totally overhaul them. I really don't.
not a single one.
The central midfield absolutely needs improvement. It's not good enough right now.
Strengthening our attack will give us the biggest bang for our buck though. Focusing all our resources on the midfield area will send us down the incremental improvement trap that Rafa often fell foul of.
Strengthening our attack will give us the biggest bang for our buck though. Focusing all our resources on the midfield area will send us down the incremental improvement trap that Rafa often fell foul of.
I disagree. we could play a front 3 of gerrard, suarez and carroll, push them right up to the final third and give them a platform so they don't have to drop deep to collect the ball and I think they would dominate opposition defenders. currently with our current set up they would have to drop deep to collect the ball, make alonso-esque passing to find each other and be no where near carroll when he wins the first ball.
our attackers oare better than they are showing but they are being played with too little support for them to show what they are capable of.
if we continue buying attackers without changing the foundations the results will be exactly the same unless the attacker is so good he doesn't NEED support.
I've seen enough from kenny to suggest he can make this needed change in approach, the way we went at man city away from home in the carling cup final first leg (first half) was near enough perfect, the balance was exactly right. it's happened at other times in the season but that is the one that sticks in the mind for me, that is closest to what I want from the team but how many times has that happened this season? 5 times? 10 times (at a push). enough to warrent a second season?
I understand what you want us to do Spidey. I think that ideally we'd all want that kind of football.
There is a huge gaping flaw in your argument though. We played like that at the peak of Rafa's reign and still regularly struggled to break teams down who parked the bus. Then we had the arguably the best midfield in the league, Gerrard at the peak of his powers and the most lethal number 9 in the country.
Now we have a Gerrard that's spent the last two years dogged by injuries and struggling to recapture his previous level, a no.9 that has spent the last 12 months struggling to show any kind of form and still has question marks hanging over his head. Which leaves us with Suarez.
There is no question that pouring men forward is more likely to get us goals but the problem here isn't just with the manager and tactics. It's the players we have. It's all one big mess.
If we brought back Maschareno and Alonso at the peak of their abilities, we'd still struggle to score goals. Why? Because like the last time they were here, our attackers aren't good enough to break down opposition defences.
I think Ryan has it spot on.
in '09 we were the highest scoring team in the league.
At least 5 players. People keep focusing on the starting line up. We need back ups as well.
12 draws no doubt cost us but it's worth reminding that our left winger was riera. the formation and tactics (imho) were sound, we needed a better left winger, a stark contrast to being all over the fucking place in the middle of the park, I quite like lucas but everyone (without except and I include gerrard) has been fucking terrible there and if we go into the season without address this the results will be the same UNLESS like I side we purchase an attacking player that is so good you could put ME in the middle of the park and it would make no difference. we are a mess and it starts in the middle. if kenny fails to purchase a new CM of quality I'm writing off the season before a ball is kicked in anger.
Go on Modo, how about sack Ancelotti, and get AVB? How about the 3 last sackings at Juve over the last years?
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