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I'd sooner win number 6 and finish 5th. Of course I would.

Utd 4th and then wouldn't qualify for the CL as we would get that place as holders.

Have you gone mad Lefty?
 
I'd sooner win number 6 and finish 5th. Of course I would.

Utd 4th and then wouldn't qualify for the CL as we would get that place as holders.

Have you gone mad Lefty?

Sorry, hadn't occurred to me that they would miss out and we'd be back in. My bad.

As you were LTW.
 
We spent a lot of money to still have a shakey defence.
Still lose the midfield battle.
Still look clueless in the final 3rd.

This is best post on this matter by miles. However, i dont recall the lovren purchase been debated as bad by anyone on here. So the defensive errors are all about coaching.

What i think was crazy was purchasing lallana and markovic. We did not need that many creatives. We could have used to spend the extra 25M on buying the player who would give you the guaranteed final third penetration and goals - would have loved cuadrado for that and not buying potential as we needed to build on last year and provide the qualaties that suarez had.
 
We spent a lot of money to still have a shakey defence.
Still lose the midfield battle.
Still look clueless in the final 3rd.

This is best post on this matter by miles. However, i dont recall the lovren purchase been debated as bad by anyone on here. So the defensive errors are all about coaching.

What i think was crazy was purchasing lallana and markovic. We did not need that many creatives. We could have used to spend the extra 25M on buying the player who would give you the guaranteed final third penetration and goals - would have loved cuadrado for that and not buying potential as we needed to build on last year and provide the qualaties that suarez had.
 
Most top sides are inconsistent in seasons following the world cup, always have been.

This season will throw up as many surprises as last season did.
 
See?

Our rivals for top 4 are all shit as well

Relax
What is really sad about your comment is that you are not actually thinking about us as a club. We were a slip away from winning the title last season and rather than thinking about trying to win the title and build on last season we are looking at the other non challengers and thinking its safe to be shit as these other teams are shit. I am actually quite furious at rodgers purchases and no genuine attempt waa made to buy anyone like swuarez or spend 30m plus on a player of known quality. We needed another player that could get us out of shit and we did not do that.
 
What is really sad about your comment is that you are not actually thinking about us as a club. We were a slip away from winning the title last season and rather than thinking about trying to win the title and build on last season we are looking at the other non challengers and thinking its safe to be shit as these other teams are shit. I am actually quite furious at rodgers purchases and no genuine attempt waa made to buy anyone like swuarez or spend 30m plus on a player of known quality. We needed another player that could get us out of shit and we did not do that.

How impatient are you?

We're playing a lot more games this year, one of the best players in the world no longer plays for us, Gerrard is another year older and teams have wised up to our initial surprise, 'out of the blocks' approach

This isn't a short term project, Rodgers is building a team so we win the league again and again (hopefully, obv). With FFP in place and a really young team are you really expecting us to replicate a surprise Liverpool with Suarez without those key factors?

That's fucking sad dude
 
How impatient are you?

We're playing a lot more games this year, one of the best players in the world no longer plays for us, Gerrard is another year older and teams have wised up to our initial surprise, 'out of the blocks' approach

This isn't a short term project, Rodgers is building a team so we win the league again and again (hopefully, obv). With FFP in place and a really young team are you really expecting us to replicate a surprise Liverpool with Suarez without those key factors?

That's fucking sad dude
And buying a 'known' quality automatically guarantees that player will play to that quality in a new team instantly. Absurd assumption.
 
I'm confident that our attack will come good... We were sluggish in scoring goal this time last season too, and we have a lot of new players bedding in.

I'm confident that our FBs will be ok and that Lovern hasn't turned to shite overnight, so I do expect our defense to get better.

I'm confident that in Allen, Hendo, Can and Lallana we have the makings of an outstanding midfield

I'm worried about Stevie.

And I wouldn't trust Ming with washing the kit at this point.
 
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This is Red Cafe, right?

Nope, it's a Liverpool forum.

Oops, I keep doing that.

Twat.
 
Confident of fourth? Nah. Doable, but gonna be tough. If the defence isn't sorted it will be a massive ask.
 
It's not a recent thing though. That's my only concern.

Individual ability is for naught in defence. It's the system that is king.

A well trained system can make average players look incredible. Great defenders are only as good as the system
 
We do not have a good defence

Exactly as Jules said, Sakho, Skrtel, Lovren and Moreno are all very good players, and arguably better than anything in United's backline, unfortunately they haven't settled at all yet.
 
Moreno and manquillo for me are the only positives in our defence.

Everyone else seems a load of hoop
 
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