Suarez Wow

[Dreambeliever]

Not content with being the top goal scorer in the league.

He's now decided he wants Studge to be no2.

And he's thrown in the highest number of assists in the league to boot.

Hands down the greatest player to ever play for us.

No other striker in the history of the game would go from his hot streak to turning into such an unselfish provider for his team and setting up so many goals.

We are so lucky to be able to watch him play for us week in week out.

While he stays fit anything is possible.

 

[RolandG]

Suarez is lacking confidence to do the audacious things done previously. He is not scoring not because he doesn't want to but hasn't had any luck. His work rate is 2nd to none and he is still benefitting the team which says much about his team ethic.

 

[dee]

Suarez is lacking confidence to do the audacious things done previously.

Like trying to score from the halfway line?

Suarez will never lack for confidence

 

[tombrown]

Suarez is lacking confidence to do the audacious things done previously. He is not scoring not because he doesn't want to but hasn't had any luck. His work rate is 2nd to none and he is still benefitting the team which says much about his team ethic.

The volley against Arsenal, the FK against Arsenal, the attempted chip from half way line yesterday

Yep he just cant raise himself to try the audacious anymore

 

[localny]

Suarez lacking confidence. That's like saying Mourinho is lacking words - never happens.

 

[juniormember]

He's an incredible player.
Didn't think Sturridge would benefit the way he has by playing with him when we bought him, but Christ is he brilliant.
He's like no other player and I wouldn't sell him for 80m.
He'll be a player vital to us staying amongst the CL places for at least the next 3 years. How much is that worth? 150m?

 

[StevieM]

Hands down the greatest player to ever play for us.

Uuuuuuummmmm!

Ok... So I was lucky to have gbe opportunity to sit down and have a conversation with a true Luverpool legend recently - and it was really eye opening, in a way.

One of his things - we heap too much praise on players who have won nothing.

Now.... Don't get me wrong, Suarez is a supremely gifted player - but his talents have won very little - as yet.

To cal him our "greatest ever player" is so premature.... The condom is still in the packet.

 

[Rosco]

Couldn't agree more.

You can argue it's the greatest individual season if you like, but he has a long way to go to be the greatest player.

 

[RolandG]

His been in some great positions where he would have shot at goal and has instead passed on the responsibility. Watch the game again. There's been more than a few occassions. He is getting desperate for a goal.

 

[Silver Sean]

Hands down the greatest player to ever have played for us? Er... no. He's a world class player who has been here a short amount of time and won nowt yet.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Suarez is lacking confidence to do the audacious things done previously. He is not scoring not because he doesn't want to but hasn't had any luck. His work rate is 2nd to none and he is still benefitting the team which says much about his team ethic.

Lacking confidence? Are you kidding? 2 efforts from half. A 35 yard free kick against arsenal from a crazy angle and numerous other audacious efforts. His confidence is still sky high

 

[Frogfish]

Like trying to score from the halfway line?

Suarez will never lack for confidence

Actually I agree with Roland - he is definitely concerned at his lack of goals and so now he is shooting whenever he gets even a sniff rather than befuddling the defence to give himself a better opportunity as he has done most of the season. He's not going past players for fun any more.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Uuuuuuummmmm!

Ok... So I was lucky to have gbe opportunity to sit down and have a conversation with a true Luverpool legend recently - and it was really eye opening, in a way.

One of his things - we heap too much praise on players who have won nothing.

Now.... Don't get me wrong, Suarez is a supremely gifted player - but his talents have won very little - as yet.

To cal him our "greatest ever player" is so premature.... The condom is still in the packet.

If he wins nothing with us it will be of no fault of his own and that would just mean he wasn't our most successful player. But as a footballer he is untouchable. It's insane how good this lad is every single game. The mere fact he created 1 goal and his effort lead to another while working like he always does for the team doesn't get him in 95% top 3 for yesterday shows how high the bar has been set by him.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Couldn't agree more.

You can argue it's the greatest individual season if you like, but he has a long way to go to be the greatest player.

I'm speaking in football ability only.

 

[Frogfish]

Hands down the greatest player to ever have played for us? Er... no. He's a world class player who has been here a short amount of time and won nowt yet.

I don't think winning something is a prerequisite to being called a great player, that's all about the team. Call if we call him one of the greatest ever players for LFC, I'd go with that.

 

[dee]

Actually I agree with Roland - he is definitely concerned at his lack of goals and so now he is shooting whenever he gets even a sniff rather than befuddling the defence to give himself a better opportunity as he has done most of the season. He's not going past players for fun any more.

I refer you to the assist for sturridge

Honestly, there doesn't need to be any more of an explaination than some you win ....

He is getting visibly frustrated but then when hasn't he?

 

[mark1975]

The winning thing is a moot point, to be fair to Dreamy. Gerrard has never won the title, but it won't take away from his legend status one iota.

Suarez has played for us and won us games singlehandedly, in a more competitive league, through a time of major change at the club and through two managers and a massive overhaul.

I can't believe people are actually laying into his current dip in form aswell, he's been a pillar of consistency since he arrived here. Whether that elevates him to being one of the very best is debatable maybe, but he's certainly one of, if not THE, most talented player to ever play for us.

 

[Frogfish]

He is getting visibly frustrated but then when hasn't he?

But there was also 2-3 snap shots yesterday that were woeful or even totally unrealistic from the position he was in. His frustration seems to be manifesting itself and detracting from his usual brilliance. Of course he still has the occasional sensational/amazing moment or two of magic per match. Maybe we (I) am just expecting his mid-season form to continue when in reality every player has a dip.

 

[Wizardry]

Yeah, it does irk me when people make these utterly outlandish statements which smack of such disrespect.

Suarez has a team mate who's a long way in front of him in the line to be our greatest ever player. If he does this for the next few seasons then he'll have a claim but so far he's not outperformed what Gerrard was doing for us for season upon season - I think it was about 5 or 6 in a row.

Then you've got Kenny, Barnes, Rushie, Keegan, Souness etc who all performed at an amazing level for years. Calling Suarez "hands down the greatest player to ever play for us" is the sort of plastic, no history comment that I'd associate with a Chelsea fan who was born after the Sky generation started. Let's have a bit of realism and a slight sense of history.

Luis has had some outlandishly talented moments in his time with us but that's a long way from being our greatest every player.

 

[mark1975]

Yeah, it does irk me when people make these utterly outlandish statements which smack of such disrespect.

Suarez has a team mate who's a long way in front of him in the line to be our greatest ever player. If he does this for the next few seasons then he'll have a claim but so far he's not outperformed what Gerrard was doing for us for season upon season - I think it was about 5 or 6 in a row.

Then you've got Kenny, Barnes, Rushie, Keegan, Souness etc who all performed at an amazing level for years. Calling Suarez "hands down the greatest player to ever play for us" is the sort of plastic, no history comment that I'd associate with a Chelsea fan who was born after the Sky generation started. Let's have a bit of realism and a slight sense of history. Luis has had some outlandishly moments in his time with us but that's a long way from being our greatest every player.

I agree, but that's different to saying he's one of, or possibly THE, most talented player to play for us. Which I think was more Dreamy's point, albeit with his usual over-enthused tones.

 

[Wizardry]

No it wasn't Mark. He's been down this track before - he thinks Suarez is our greatest every player. His statement that Suarez is "hands down the greatest player to ever play for us" is just plain wrong. End of.

 

[mark1975]

No it wasn't Mark. He's been down this track before - he thinks Suarez is our greatest every player. His statement that Suarez is "hands down the greatest player to ever play for us" is just plain wrong. End of.

Fair enough! I read his latter back tracking post, before the initial post. He is great though, but yeah, the point is lacking in any kind of perspective at all. Maybe it's an Irish thing, Rosco and Ryan toss around absurd negative assertions about our better players (some sort of inferiority complex issue, I imagine), while Dreamy goes the other way.

Barmy.

 

[Red Astaire]

I like Suarez. He's mint. I have nothing more to say on the subject.....

 

[Rosco]

I'm speaking in football ability only.

You cant judge his 'footballing ability' simply on a 3 month of superb form. Just like you can't judge him solely on the season where he was one of the worst finishers in the league.


The truth lies in the middle usually.

 

[Frogfish]

You cant judge his 'footballing ability' simply on a 3 month of superb form. Just like you can't judge him solely on the season where he was one of the worst finishers in the league.

The truth lies in the middle usually.

Maybe you can't but just about the rest of the world seems to be sure of just what an amazing footballing ability he has 😉 That doesn't make him the greatest anything but his footballing ability is surely proven beyond all doubt (and that ability's longevity is neither here nor there, it's either something you have or you don't).

 

[gkmacca]

I think most pros are most impressed by a player who shines in a side full of great players. Many fans, on the other hand, seem to be most impressed by a player who shines in a mediocre team. The argument for Gerrard has always been like that. I'm more inclined to the former outlook - Dalglish would have dazzled in a poor Liverpool team, but to stand out in a team that also had the likes of Souness, Rush, Hansen, McDermott and others was an incredible achievement. If Suarez hangs on and helps the team back into Europe and back to winning things, he'll certainly keep rising up the list of all-time legends, there's no doubt about that.

 

[Silver Sean]

I don't think winning something is a prerequisite to being called a great player, that's all about the team. Call if we call him one of the greatest ever players for LFC, I'd go with that.

He is phenomenal for sure. Wouldn't it be great if he did become the greatest player we've ever had? We'd have won the tilte and the CL more than once with him in the team. What a thought!

 

[mom]

Greatest player for us ever? Not sure on that one yet, but he has the attributes to become just that.
Most talented? That's a different thing altogether. He may just be.

 

[Rosco]

Maybe you can't but just about the rest of the world seems to be sure of just what an amazing footballing ability he has 😉 That doesn't make him the greatest anything but his footballing ability is surely proven beyond all doubt (and that ability's longevity is neither here nor there, it's either something you have or you don't).

Well if I follow your logic......if longevity is neither here nor there then Suarez hasn't proved he's better than Kevin Phillips yet.

Now I know the above is an absolutely retarded proposition but so is not taking longevity into account.

And the notion that you have something is footballs biggest fallacy- if they've done it once they'll do it again - it's the same line of thinking that led us to Downing. Players have peaks and troughs during the career, and it's not all totally down to them.

 

[Frogfish]

Isn't it your lunchtime Rosco (12.15 over there right ?) .... I think you are suffering withdrawal symptoms from lack of sugar ... or burgers.