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Trent, Salah and VVD

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Trent is the bestest right back in the world.
He's amazing, wonderful.

To

Exposing all his faults on and off the pitch.

Kinda sad how low football fans can be.

Accepted he's moving on months ago. Best of luck to Liverpool and Liverpool players.
Thanks for the goals (the extras when scoring was a bit weird like but OK whatever)
And the trophies.

Have fun in Spain. As you're now a rival hope Madrid continue to play shit, struggle in the league, Europe and get dominated by Barca.
See at Anfield in the future I'm sure where you'll be treated with as much respect as Bradley gave to Mbappe.
 
We need an attacking left back to just fucking fly through him. Put him on his arse when he's attacking, leave him on his arse when we're attacking.
 
if we take the 500k does that mean he'll be gone before the parade? If so its worth it as i don't want him on the bus. If he's still on the bus anyway then real madrid can fuck off with their 500k.
Hopefully the ticket inspector throws him off the bus. Whilst it's still moving
 
I was around then too and was similarly disappointed by Keegan's departure but never held it against him. He was open and honest about his intentions all along, because of which we were properly recompensed by Hamburg for his services. To my shame I thought we'd been done when we signed the King, as I'd never been that impressed by him previously. Never in my life have I been more wrong, or more pleased to be so. :smuggrin:

We got a fee for KK? Or did he share 40m with his brothers? 🙂
 
You're right, but if any Liverpool fan didn't enjoy Agger leaving his elbow in on Torres then that was the time to give it up.
Torres acted like a bigger prick though, and that's why he was fucked off to go and train on his own, because he forced it and downed tools. He's now strangely loved again, when he returns for Legends matches. We're a fickle bunch alright.
 
We got a fee for KK? Or did he share 40m with his brothers? 🙂

Arf. You got me doubting myself so I googled it, and yes, we did. The previous season Keegan had negotiated a release clause of £500,000 (a British record, and double the German record, at the time) and Hamburg triggered it.
 
No one can blame him for going abroad. No issue with that, even though his help for #21 would have been appreciated. BUT
  1. Running down his contract was poor. Helping us get a fee for his replacement would have made right. In life, It's not what you do, but the way you do it.

  2. But going to Madrid, a team who's talisman, Ramos, physically assaulted Salah, and Karius which led to our 2018 loss? Poor form.

    "It's not important what people think when you come in, it's much more important what people think when you leave"
 
Torres acted like a bigger prick though, and that's why he was fucked off to go and train on his own, because he forced it and downed tools. He's now strangely loved again, when he returns for Legends matches. We're a fickle bunch alright.
Whether we learn to forgive when there's contrition, combined by failure. He also told us what we wanted to hear (that he was promised signings by the owners and they never came). Torres never was as good for anyone else as he was for us.

Torres also didn't do this celebration at the height of the rumours


View: https://x.com/MirrorFootball/status/1873438750568816655?t=hN40fv3qcaHuliws6Ae3BQ&s=19

He's a prick tease and making out it's the hardest decision in the world. He's gaslighting his way out the club and he'll get cheered for it.

He just can't be arsed being part of a rebuild and is going to get a fat load of cash in the process
 
Arf. You got me doubting myself so I googled it, and yes, we did. The previous season Keegan had negotiated a release clause of £500,000 (a British record, and double the German record, at the time) and Hamburg triggered it.

Thanks man. That's the difference. He could have looked out for the club, helped them get a fee, and people like me would have said "Fair enough, come back soon"..
 
You're right, but if any Liverpool fan didn't enjoy Agger leaving his elbow in on Torres then that was the time to give it up.


Oh yeah, there's nothing wrong with taking joy from any situation.
You could go as far as saying that's basically the point of life.

That's the polar opposite of what I'm pointing out.
 
Oh yeah, there's nothing wrong with taking joy from any situation.
You could go as far as saying that's basically the point of life.

That's the polar opposite of what I'm pointing out.
But surely the only way to gleam joy out the pain of someone else, is to hate the person receiving pain though?

It's hard to have one without the other

Newtons third law, ying/Yang, karma, etc
 
THE BIGGER PICTURE
While speaking on Toni Kroos' podcast 'Einfach mal Lupen', Klopp revealed he is not very fond of Ramos as a player, not least because of his part in that Salah injury which put the Reds on the back foot as Real went on to win 3-1 in Kyiv.

WHAT KLOPP SAID
Klopp, a defender himself in his playing days, said: "Is Mr Sergio Ramos really a good guy? He's not my favourite player. The action was brutal. Of course, he can't know that it's bothering his shoulder, but we all know that he accepted it very happily.

"I could never understand that mentality, I never had players like that and, when I did, I made sure they left."

Though Kroos went on to defend his former team-mate Ramos, Klopp added: "He may not be my favourite player, but it doesn't matter. I always thought that my centre-backs were good enough not to be involved in actions like that."

Ramos is considered one of the best defenders of his generation and was one of the players who played a major part in Real Madrid's European domination between 2014 and 2021. The centre-back played a key role in Los Blancos' win against Liverpool in the 2018 Champions League final as he was involved in injuring Reds' key man Salah, dragging the Egyptian forward to the ground with his arm in an awkward position which



View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hjVPeiSNm2Y


 
I'm in this camp - though I'm probably an anomaly nowadays.

Actually I don't think you are.

It's nice to see that most on SCM are reacting with perspective and maturity, and most of the "immature" reactions seem tongue in cheek theatre.


It helps that Trent had a poor season. Makes it easier to be magnanimous.

Also good to know that the club had the opportunity to get 20m in January but deliberately chose this as a preferred outcome after weighing up the value of our season.
 
I think another year or two and many would be talking about how we should sell him. You know, the type of betrayal we find totally acceptable.

Or perhaps someone would like to explain to me how our formation is meant to work with a rb who wants to play on the front foot, and see a lot of the ball and wander in, and a player in front of them who won't track back more than 3 big games, and is physically declining?

Is he going to get better in this system? The last two years has been "how else could we use him to better effect." This year has been "do the normal job." And that's been right. And when we dominate possession comfortably he gets to stuff he enjoys doing. It's bits though.

He doesn't want to do the normal job at this club, and he's not wrong, in that he's not that good at it. Will he find his way as a player somewhere else? Maybe not, I've no idea. He isn't finding it here though, because our club is anchored around salah on that right side.

Many this year were already saying we are better with Bradley. This is chiefly because Bradley will run a lot and is a more aggressive defender. I don't rate Bradley very highly, but he's got nowhere near as much talent as Trent, and yet be can be more effective in a more narrow, structured role. That's a reason to leave too.

Now, if he goes and is a special, normal right back for real and applies himself a lot more, I'll be a little annoyed, but that's further evidence he should leave as well.

I'm really not arsed, and we've known it for a year now.
 
Actually I don't think you are.

It's nice to see that most on SCM are reacting with perspective and maturity, and most of the "immature" reactions seem tongue in cheek theatre.


It helps that Trent had a poor season. Makes it easier to be magnanimous.

Also good to know that the club had the opportunity to get 20m in January but deliberately chose this as a preferred outcome after weighing up the value of our season.

Why aren't I in your camp?
Wished him luck, no ill will to him and yah, more important things to worry about in life than our rb.
 
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