Yeah just watching this and nothing else, from the footage it looks like the guy had complete road rage
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The meta bullshit part of my brain just means that this makes it worse next time when they don't release any information. Because there will be a next time. Because fuck everything.
It's unreal. Feel sick. I was so happy that so many people from all over the place came here for a laugh. I didn't care if they support Liverpool or were just tagging along for a laugh. My house has been full of people this weekend I've met on this site from all over the place, and even though it's a small enough group everyone is from a different background, different kinds of family, different indoctrinated ways, different origin stories, different histories, and we all just take the piss out of each other and laugh with a common love of footy, all trying our best not to take ourselves too seriously. I mean you could think it was heartwarming the way we all get along so well when the only thing that made us mates is LFC.
I can't let some fucked up lunatic extend his misery on the rest us. Which is rich coming from me after having a series of meltdowns over the years. I dunno. I just hope that it isn't as bad as it seems. I hope lives haven't been destroyed, but fear it's in vain.
Glad you're okay just hope everyone else isn't too badly hurt.
Looks like one child suffered serious injuries, which is very sad.
So depressing. Sounds like nobody was killed, thank god.
Considering the footage, that only two serious injuries resulted is welcome news.
It's not as bad as it could have been, thankfully. Looks like some kind of twisted road rage.
Fingers crossed still horrendous but no deaths is something.
I'm having a hard time interpreting the video I saw and don't want to watch more. It could be like that cunt in Portland, just a raging asshole who is why we can't have a society.
From what I can gather, he’s taken a wrong turn somewhere, got into an altercation with fans, then reversed towards one of them—and we all know what happened next. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was tanked on booze or drugs. Either way he's life's over. He shouldn't see daylight again and he's very fortunate the police got to him before he got curb-stomped.
There's something to be said for the designers of cars making them more pedestrian safe upon impact, too. We call these things miracles but hundreds of people have worked for decades to reduce casualties on days like today. Thank god so many ambulances were on the scene and people could get they help they needed instantly, but the trauma will live on. Cunt.
There's something to be said for the designers of cars making them more pedestrian safe upon impact, too. We call these things miracles but hundreds of people have worked for decades to reduce casualties on days like today. Thank god so many ambulances were on the scene and people could get they help they needed instantly, but the trauma will live on. Cunt.
I see them listed as in serious condition, not critical.
Great. Edited for accuracy.
It’s crazy the route was closed to cars better than it was. We watched about 300m further back up the route and even articulated Lorrie’s were trying to drive through the crowd lined streets at 2mph like cyclists in the roof de France.
Hope you’re ok @binomial mate.
After we saw the bus i legged it to my car to beat the traffic and only saw the news when i stopped 3 hours later for a coffee & had a bunch of messages checking we were ok!
Hope you’re ok @binomial mate.
After we saw the bus i legged it to my car to beat the traffic and only saw the news when i stopped 3 hours later for a coffee & had a bunch of messages checking we were ok!
Not to go off on too much of a tangent from the subject however I was reading an article on this recently (why US cars fail Euro import tests) and it seems cars in the US are designed to protect the occupants in the event of an accident, whereas in the rest of the world (and esp. Europe) cars are primarily designed to protect pedestrians/cyclists in the event of a collision. I found that interesting.
I don't see how simple road rage explains this.
We can eff and blind and give someone the finger, but this is incomprehensible.
Hopefully, all of the injured will be alright but this affects a lot of people mentally too.
We can eff and blind and give someone the finger, but this is incomprehensible.
Hopefully, all of the injured will be alright but this affects a lot of people mentally too.
This has dominated my thoughts since seeing the footage. As others have said, sickened, numb, speechless. The mental scarring for those injured... it's hard to comprehend something like this could happen to footy fans enjoying a day they were supposed to remember fondly for the rest of their lives.
Glad your all safe and praying for those seriously injured to pull through.
Glad your all safe and praying for those seriously injured to pull through.
We were just around the corner from Water St, what was a great day quickly turned into a sunken, sickening feeling. We all piled back to my lads house near Duke St for 30 minutes or so, had a drink, played some songs, got rowdy again and said a determined "fuck you" to whoever it was and made our way back into town.
One of our mates should have been there with us but he's lying in a hospital bed deteriorating from cancer, so it was already an emotional day for us all. We laughed, we cried, we sang, we partied. The only way to overcome this shit is to show resolve and grit and to just get on with life and enjoy it.
I hope the injured recover, what a day, but what a horrible way for it to have ended for some. YNWA.
One of our mates should have been there with us but he's lying in a hospital bed deteriorating from cancer, so it was already an emotional day for us all. We laughed, we cried, we sang, we partied. The only way to overcome this shit is to show resolve and grit and to just get on with life and enjoy it.
I hope the injured recover, what a day, but what a horrible way for it to have ended for some. YNWA.
Anything is speculation at the minute. Could have been drunk, on drugs, have ptsd. Who the fuck knows... let's let the police do their job.
Did my usual route into work this morning (can’t say I’ve got much done at all), which passes through the strand/all the different docks and I have to say the local authorities have done remarkably to clear the streets and main waterfront from congestion. Wanted to leave some flowers at the scene but there were some police presence that taped off a few of the adjacent roads which made it tricky, will try again on my way back.
The biggest positive is that there hasn't been any reports of loss to innocent lives which in itself is a miracle.
The biggest positive is that there hasn't been any reports of loss to innocent lives which in itself is a miracle.
That's not true entirely.
There has been an increase in pedestrian deaths recently. One reason is that the pedestrian infrastructure in this country is atrocious.
The other reason is that the us carved out an exemption for light trucks in the 80s and made it worse in the 2000s. It was an auto lobby lead law, and the result is that the USA has an exemption with far lower fuel economy standards for light trucks and SUVs. They sold it as a an exemption for farm traffic.
Instead what it did was made car makers produce more and more trucks and SUVs. The average size of a vehicle in the USA ballooned, and is continuing to so so. The amount of people who have a pickup truck now, who have zero need for one, is insane. There are so many trucks in suburbia whose beds are pristine. The average truck on the road is used to haul groceries. This is reflected in the trucks themselves, who have smaller bed sizes than trucks 70 percent of their size in the past.
All the while the auto industry pushed larger vehicles as safer and advertised them heavily. Were they safer? No. With taller ground clearance many SUVs and trucks had high centres of gravity and were prone to roll over.
What they had made was an arms race though. They pushed the idea that big cars were a safer choice for the suburban mum. As the average car got bigger, were you safe in your car? Well, you used to be safer, but now you were at risk of a collision with a car with a significantly higher bumper height. And how did they run safety simulations? Against cars of a similar class.
So people who didn't even want a bigger car felt more comfortable in a bigger car, and on and on. I wouldn't buy or rent a compact car in the USA, even in situations where it'd be better. Why? Well, the bumper of half the cars on the roads is at my eye height. I can run that crash simulation in my head.
Whereas in the 60s there were station wagons and then in the 90s mini vans, there are now trucks and SUVs with far less hauling space that are far far bigger and taller.
This also worsened the situation for pedestrian infrastructure, as one of the best understood ways to make pedestrians and bikers safer is to use road diets, and create bike lanes and pavements in that space. Instead there is a constantly increasing appetite for wider roads and more road parking, as the average old parking space doesn't work for cars.
Lastly, on the tall trucks in particular, the fact that you have a heavy waist-height mass coming at you is problematic enough, but their visibility is horrible, especially of pedestrians. There has a been a huge uptick in accidents wherein someone runs over their own kid or a neighborhood kid in their driveway, because you can't see someone 5 feet in front of your own car due to the height and size of the bonnet.
Congrats if you made it through that. Be happy you aren't hearing it in person. I'm involved in pedestrian advocacy locally.
