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World Athletics Championships 2009

[quote author=Fox link=topic=35275.msg926334#msg926334 date=1250507526]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35275.msg925970#msg925970 date=1250455241]
It's cos he's black
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Had to laugh at the german lass (white token) 100m sprinter she was last by a mile


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Surely that can't be right?
 
How can the IAAF allow a country to not test their athletes?

As for Bolt..wow, he thinks he can go quicker and hit 9.40
 
Carl Lewis is quoted as saying :

"When people ask me about Bolt I say he could be the greatest athlete of all time. But for someone to run 10.03 one year and 9.69 the next, if you don't question that in a sport that has the reputation it has right now, you're a fool. Period."
 
I've done a little bit of reading up on Jamaica's drug testing. There is no random testing carried out in Jamaica, it's all pre arranged and athletes can go months without being tested.

That is probably the main reason why Jamaica dominate sprint events.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35275.msg926377#msg926377 date=1250510284]
Why are they not genius at other events then, "if" they can get away with taking drugs?


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I've no idea.


No good coaches ? No interest in other events ?
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35275.msg926379#msg926379 date=1250510355]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35275.msg926377#msg926377 date=1250510284]
Why are they not genius at other events then, "if" they can get away with taking drugs?


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I've no idea.


No good coaches ? No interest in other events ?
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Yeah maybe.

I'd just expect that Jamaican athletes in other events would be showing improvements as well, if the testing was so easy to cope with.
 
I have to agree with you on this Rosco.
10.03 to 9.69 is far too much of a jump in year.
He is definitely on something.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35275.msg926389#msg926389 date=1250510824]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35275.msg926379#msg926379 date=1250510355]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35275.msg926377#msg926377 date=1250510284]
Why are they not genius at other events then, "if" they can get away with taking drugs?


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I've no idea.


No good coaches ? No interest in other events ?
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Yeah maybe.

I'd just expect that Jamaican athletes in other events would be showing improvements as well, if the testing was so easy to cope with.
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isn't this like the Chinese dominance in swimming a few years ago, they kept breaking world records claiming its was a diet of seaweed or something but turned out to be drugs.

I hope for the sports sake he is clean.
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=35275.msg926402#msg926402 date=1250511350]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35275.msg926389#msg926389 date=1250510824]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35275.msg926379#msg926379 date=1250510355]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35275.msg926377#msg926377 date=1250510284]
Why are they not genius at other events then, "if" they can get away with taking drugs?


[/quote]

I've no idea.


No good coaches ? No interest in other events ?
[/quote]

Yeah maybe.

I'd just expect that Jamaican athletes in other events would be showing improvements as well, if the testing was so easy to cope with.
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isn't this like the Chinese dominance in swimming a few years ago, they kept breaking world records claiming its was a diet of seaweed or something but turned out to be drugs.

I hope for the sports sake he is clean.


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Ha, i remember that.

I'm going to choose to believe that he is just an exceptional (clean) sprinter, until proven otherwise.
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=35275.msg926470#msg926470 date=1250516218]
Sounds like some hate in Carl Lewis's game right there.


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nah, bolt is shit at long jump ;D
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=35275.msg926470#msg926470 date=1250516218]
Sounds like some gay in Carl Lewis's game right there.


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Brap !
 
Fuck it, I'd rather watch Usain Bolt run 100m in 7 seconds stoked up on anything he can get his hands on than someone white lad jog it in 10.5.
 
[quote author=Hooz link=topic=35275.msg926523#msg926523 date=1250518123]
Fuck it, I'd rather watch Usain Bolt run 100m in 7 seconds stoked up on anything he can get his hands on than someone white lad jog it in 10.5.
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fuck it since jocko Wells the only white fella who won anything was the greek guy and then he got banned for gear. Accept it whities, we are better at snooker and darts FFS
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35275.msg926612#msg926612 date=1250523820]
how come no-one thinks Phelps is on PEDs then?
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Where is he from?
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=35275.msg926634#msg926634 date=1250525227]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35275.msg926612#msg926612 date=1250523820]
how come no-one thinks Phelps is on PEDs then?
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Where is he from?
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United States Of Jamaica
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=35275.msg926634#msg926634 date=1250525227]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35275.msg926612#msg926612 date=1250523820]
how come no-one thinks Phelps is on PEDs then?
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Where is he from?
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Good point, that it is.
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=35275.msg926646#msg926646 date=1250525783]
Sounds like a cool place to visit. have you been Themn
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Yes.

I ran across the water to get there.
 
I hope Bolt is legit however I doubt it. Doesn't make sense. I would imagine if records were legit we would be back at 9.8 or so.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35275.msg926612#msg926612 date=1250523820]
how come no-one thinks Phelps is on PEDs then?
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Because he gets drug tested randomly all the time, whereas as Ross has pointed out Jamaican athletes have scheduled tests with big gaps between where they have the opportunity to take performance enhancing drugs and then stay off them long enough to pass the tests.


Simplez
 
[quote author=Bristow link=topic=35275.msg927330#msg927330 date=1250620091]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35275.msg926612#msg926612 date=1250523820]
how come no-one thinks Phelps is on PEDs then?
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Because he gets drug tested randomly all the time, whereas as Ross has pointed out Jamaican athletes have scheduled tests with big gaps between where they have the opportunity to take performance enhancing drugs and then stay off them long enough to pass the tests.


Simplez
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some moroccon got tested at the champs like everyone else and tested positive. if bolt was on something it would show during the grandprix sessions or at the champs. traces will remain in the body for a while and the effects, as I understand them, only make a difference if taken as close to competition as possible, which would mean that taking the substances during the off season would have negligible impact on performace. Bolt is a physical freak who has challwnged the misconception that tall people can't run
 
[quote author=red_maradona link=topic=35275.msg927457#msg927457 date=1250629649]
[quote author=Bristow link=topic=35275.msg927330#msg927330 date=1250620091]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35275.msg926612#msg926612 date=1250523820]
how come no-one thinks Phelps is on PEDs then?
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Because he gets drug tested randomly all the time, whereas as Ross has pointed out Jamaican athletes have scheduled tests with big gaps between where they have the opportunity to take performance enhancing drugs and then stay off them long enough to pass the tests.


Simplez
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some moroccon got tested at the champs like everyone else and tested positive. if bolt was on something it would show during the grandprix sessions or at the champs. traces will remain in the body for a while and the effects, as I understand them, only make a difference if taken as close to competition as possible, which would mean that taking the substances during the off season would have negligible impact on performace. Bolt is a physical freak who has challwnged the misconception that tall people can't run
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It depends entirely on the drugs that are used. Some can have lasting benefits long after they've left the system.

Take something like ephedrine. Proven to have no benefit to performance on a one off basis. However if you take it for a few weeks at a time it can help you burn up body fat and get leaner before competition. You then stop taking it, keep a strict diet and you get to competition leaner and free of evidence.
 
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