So I take it the Firmino debate is conclusively won or lost then?
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You use that line on all the girls!
My goodness. What a peculiar thing to shout. Had he touched any stimulis at that point?
@babu_yagu, one of the most knowledgeable football writers on Twitter, thinks that Havertz can be that Firmino replacement/understudy. One of the few players who combines great stamina, technical ability and finishing. Interesting thought, but unlike Bobby he doesn't have a playmaker mentality, from what I can tell, so I don't know if that's ultimately the solution. Personally, I think Van de Beek can fulfill the Firmino role of linking the attack together.
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I watched a genius tear apart my own team. And I loved every second of it
Late last month physicists discovered the Big Bang may not have happened at all.
It is quite possible the universe, it was theorised by a group of humans on a different intellectual level to most of us, has been there all along.
How long? No idea. The universe just happened. And will always be there with no end possible.
Which in some part, in a completely different sphere of life, the kind that involves the kicking of one and billions of people paying attention, describes perfectly what it is like to watch someone a step ahead on a pitch.
Intelligence is just there in a footballer. How it started is a mystery, and it is not likely to go away.
Some players just have it. Like the universe, according to these new studies, there is no beginning or end to it.
For the younger generation, FIFA ratings hold great meaning. For many, Fantasy Football points define the effect a player has on a contest.
One measure is missing; intelligence is almost impossible to pin with numbers, but happily for those attached to the purity of football, easiest to identify in real life.
Football being an ultimate team sport, with endless possibilities, combinations and reactions to reactions, a huge degree of intelligence is required in chasing sustained success – yeah, smashing it long for a quick guy to nick a 1-0 win might work occasionally, but that type of greatness generally lasts a long way short of an era.
Eventually, brains win and Bobby Firmino has one of the best football brains on the planet.
The Brazilian plays the game at a tempo relative to his own interpretation, not the needs and requirements of everything going on in a game of football, which if played too quickly, and without subtly, equates to chaos reminiscent of a game of Jenga played drunk.
Players like Firmino make football better; and by association anyone who follows football closely, and enjoys good football, makes life seem better for a fleeting moment, or perhaps longer.
Unless, like for an hour on Saturday night, you happen to follow whoever Firmino is playing against, like me.
Newcastle took a lead which eventually rattled Liverpool from slumber and just after drawing level, Divock Origi departed the brilliant, bright day injured and Firmino and his brilliant, bright teeth emerged before, over the course of the next hour, intricately and skillfully murdering any hope of a surprising result.
The backheel flick assist to Mo Salah rightfully got all the attention, but what came before and what followed that flash of outrageousness perfectly illustrates the type of player the Brazilian is, and why he means as much to Liverpool as Salah, Sadio Mane and Virgil van Dijk.
He hunts willfully as the first line of defence, dropping back into midfield when required. The pickpocket then quickly releases Mane to score a second is just an example of that side. Bit of brawn to be able to use his brain.
The second half was an exhibition of the really enjoyable side of his game; like all of Liverpool’s front three, Firmino can play a few positions at once, the ultimate frustration for central defenders who don’t know whether to stay and mark thin air, or follow and leave thin air horribly exposed.
On Saturday, he chose the latter, knowing Newcastle’s three central defenders weren’t willing to track and venture into the badlands of midfield. Firmino played both central striker and attacking midfielder at the same time and those defending him quickly became as befuddled as Year 7 students in a quantum physics lecture.
On 63 minutes he came short into space, turned, and with no options along the ground, looped a flick into the path of a rampaging Andy Robertson, in on goal. The same Robertson who recently said “Without Bobby we are lost”.
Sure, football is a physical sport, but it is nothing without players who think before they run, and sometimes they don’t need to run much at all.
For the Salah goal, Liverpool had controlled possession for one minute and six seconds. Firmino spent two of those seconds sprinting, for a short give and go early in the phase.
He spent 35 seconds walking, and the rest jogging, waiting for the ball to speed to him, and it was at the end of it he unfurled his party trick.
More tricks followed yet somehow more goals didn’t.
Better opponents won’t allow Liverpool or Firmino to play this way, but that’s the beauty of the Brazilian. He adjusts, and when Liverpool go into full mayhem mode against the top sides, counter attacking counter attacks, Firmino is there, in the right space, with the right pass or flick at the right time to ensure weapons Mane and Salah are deployed with frightening danger.
Any manager worthy of moving magnets on a whiteboard know the value of a player with brains. Jurgen Klopp is certainly in this category and said this about Firmino last November: “It’s because of the small things he is doing, he is working hard. He is here, he is there… and he opens 5,000 gaps for everybody. It’s about how you see it”
Nothing has changed how Klopp views Firmino.
When he plays well, which has been a constant in the embryonic stages of this campaign, the attacking football Liverpool play is, galactically speaking, other worldly.
You don’t even need half a brain to realise it.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/footba...s/news-story/7801a5f8e71d3b84ee5b75072b48b852
Late last month physicists discovered the Big Bang may not have happened at all.
It is quite possible the universe, it was theorised by a group of humans on a different intellectual level to most of us, has been there all along.
How long? No idea. The universe just happened. And will always be there with no end possible.
Which in some part, in a completely different sphere of life, the kind that involves the kicking of one and billions of people paying attention, describes perfectly what it is like to watch someone a step ahead on a pitch.
Intelligence is just there in a footballer. How it started is a mystery, and it is not likely to go away.
Some players just have it. Like the universe, according to these new studies, there is no beginning or end to it.
For the younger generation, FIFA ratings hold great meaning. For many, Fantasy Football points define the effect a player has on a contest.
One measure is missing; intelligence is almost impossible to pin with numbers, but happily for those attached to the purity of football, easiest to identify in real life.
Football being an ultimate team sport, with endless possibilities, combinations and reactions to reactions, a huge degree of intelligence is required in chasing sustained success – yeah, smashing it long for a quick guy to nick a 1-0 win might work occasionally, but that type of greatness generally lasts a long way short of an era.
Eventually, brains win and Bobby Firmino has one of the best football brains on the planet.
The Brazilian plays the game at a tempo relative to his own interpretation, not the needs and requirements of everything going on in a game of football, which if played too quickly, and without subtly, equates to chaos reminiscent of a game of Jenga played drunk.
Players like Firmino make football better; and by association anyone who follows football closely, and enjoys good football, makes life seem better for a fleeting moment, or perhaps longer.
Unless, like for an hour on Saturday night, you happen to follow whoever Firmino is playing against, like me.
Newcastle took a lead which eventually rattled Liverpool from slumber and just after drawing level, Divock Origi departed the brilliant, bright day injured and Firmino and his brilliant, bright teeth emerged before, over the course of the next hour, intricately and skillfully murdering any hope of a surprising result.
The backheel flick assist to Mo Salah rightfully got all the attention, but what came before and what followed that flash of outrageousness perfectly illustrates the type of player the Brazilian is, and why he means as much to Liverpool as Salah, Sadio Mane and Virgil van Dijk.
He hunts willfully as the first line of defence, dropping back into midfield when required. The pickpocket then quickly releases Mane to score a second is just an example of that side. Bit of brawn to be able to use his brain.
The second half was an exhibition of the really enjoyable side of his game; like all of Liverpool’s front three, Firmino can play a few positions at once, the ultimate frustration for central defenders who don’t know whether to stay and mark thin air, or follow and leave thin air horribly exposed.
On Saturday, he chose the latter, knowing Newcastle’s three central defenders weren’t willing to track and venture into the badlands of midfield. Firmino played both central striker and attacking midfielder at the same time and those defending him quickly became as befuddled as Year 7 students in a quantum physics lecture.
On 63 minutes he came short into space, turned, and with no options along the ground, looped a flick into the path of a rampaging Andy Robertson, in on goal. The same Robertson who recently said “Without Bobby we are lost”.
Sure, football is a physical sport, but it is nothing without players who think before they run, and sometimes they don’t need to run much at all.
For the Salah goal, Liverpool had controlled possession for one minute and six seconds. Firmino spent two of those seconds sprinting, for a short give and go early in the phase.
He spent 35 seconds walking, and the rest jogging, waiting for the ball to speed to him, and it was at the end of it he unfurled his party trick.
More tricks followed yet somehow more goals didn’t.
Better opponents won’t allow Liverpool or Firmino to play this way, but that’s the beauty of the Brazilian. He adjusts, and when Liverpool go into full mayhem mode against the top sides, counter attacking counter attacks, Firmino is there, in the right space, with the right pass or flick at the right time to ensure weapons Mane and Salah are deployed with frightening danger.
Any manager worthy of moving magnets on a whiteboard know the value of a player with brains. Jurgen Klopp is certainly in this category and said this about Firmino last November: “It’s because of the small things he is doing, he is working hard. He is here, he is there… and he opens 5,000 gaps for everybody. It’s about how you see it”
Nothing has changed how Klopp views Firmino.
When he plays well, which has been a constant in the embryonic stages of this campaign, the attacking football Liverpool play is, galactically speaking, other worldly.
You don’t even need half a brain to realise it.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/footba...s/news-story/7801a5f8e71d3b84ee5b75072b48b852
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Bad news guys. Bobby is in trouble with the law. Sheer obscenity.
https://tomkinstimes.com/2019/09/breaking-news-roberto-firmino-arrested/
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BREAKING NEWS: Roberto Firmino Arrested
By Paul Tomkins
September 16, 2019In By Paul Tomkins, Free, Subscribers Only
Late last night Roberto Firmino was arriving back at his Merseyside home when, as the security lights blinked on, a group of plain-clothes police officers stepped from unmarked cars and approached the Brazilian. One of the officers presented a piece of paper, before members of the vice squad slapped on the handcuffs.
Obscenity was the main charge: brazenly purveying utter filth in a public place at approximately 1:30pm on Saturday 14th September. Police are appealing for witnesses to come forward. Further charges of exhibitionism, soliciting a hopeless tackle and lewd behaviour in front of an opposition defence were listed on the arrest warrant, along with perverting the course of a through-ball and tampering with an offside trap.
A 27-year-old Swiss man, believed to be Fabian Schär, was air-lifted to The Royal Liverpool University Hospital Emergency Room on Saturday afternoon with twisted blood and a triple-fracture of self-confidence. Remnants of his self-belief were located by ground staff on the Anfield pitch after the final whistle, and a special unit of biohazard experts in hazmat suits had to clean the scene. Asked his name by the first responders, Schär said “Xi Jinping”, before changing it to “Winnie the Pooh”. (Same thing, noted the officers.) He was then heard to scream “Five of him! There are five of Firmino!” before being heavily sedated.
“It was pornographic”, noted one concerned parent who claims to have witnessed what happened. “Depraved, licentious and vulgar”, they stated. A group of men in black and white shirts were said to be deeply traumatised, with one found wandering the streets of Anfield Road, whilst a topless obese man was found crying into his beer at a nearby pub. Another said it was the most disturbing thing he’d seen since Milli Vanilli in spandex on Top of the Pops.
Firmino is also charged with multiple counts of abuse of a football, forcing it to do things felt to be wholly unnatural, and several counts of defying the laws of physics, including being in three places at once, and possessing the ability to see through brick walls.
Representatives for the Brazilian, asked if their client was guilty, said “Si señor”. Apparently the incidents in question were all caught on video, and as such, Firmino is believed to be “bang to rights”.
It is believed that the police forensics unit also want to check for hazardous material in Firmino’s teeth enamel, with the Brazilian suspected of concealing plutonium and uranium, and smuggling it across national borders.
In connection to the alleged crimes of Firmino, a 58-year old man from Corbridge, Northumberland, is being sought as a possible victim. The man in question is described as having “a big fat head”.
The rest of this article is for subscribers only.
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Paul Tomkins
The creator of this website; author of several books on Liverpool FC, and of one novel. Co-creator of The Transfer Price Index (TPI). Columnist on the official Liverpool FC website between 2005-2010. International man of mystery. Possibly bald.More by Paul Tomkins
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Tomkins is an international man of mystery alright. It's a mystery how he hasn't been kneecapped for this type of bilge.
https://tomkinstimes.com/2019/09/breaking-news-roberto-firmino-arrested/
[article]
BREAKING NEWS: Roberto Firmino Arrested
By Paul Tomkins
September 16, 2019In By Paul Tomkins, Free, Subscribers Only
Late last night Roberto Firmino was arriving back at his Merseyside home when, as the security lights blinked on, a group of plain-clothes police officers stepped from unmarked cars and approached the Brazilian. One of the officers presented a piece of paper, before members of the vice squad slapped on the handcuffs.
Obscenity was the main charge: brazenly purveying utter filth in a public place at approximately 1:30pm on Saturday 14th September. Police are appealing for witnesses to come forward. Further charges of exhibitionism, soliciting a hopeless tackle and lewd behaviour in front of an opposition defence were listed on the arrest warrant, along with perverting the course of a through-ball and tampering with an offside trap.
A 27-year-old Swiss man, believed to be Fabian Schär, was air-lifted to The Royal Liverpool University Hospital Emergency Room on Saturday afternoon with twisted blood and a triple-fracture of self-confidence. Remnants of his self-belief were located by ground staff on the Anfield pitch after the final whistle, and a special unit of biohazard experts in hazmat suits had to clean the scene. Asked his name by the first responders, Schär said “Xi Jinping”, before changing it to “Winnie the Pooh”. (Same thing, noted the officers.) He was then heard to scream “Five of him! There are five of Firmino!” before being heavily sedated.
“It was pornographic”, noted one concerned parent who claims to have witnessed what happened. “Depraved, licentious and vulgar”, they stated. A group of men in black and white shirts were said to be deeply traumatised, with one found wandering the streets of Anfield Road, whilst a topless obese man was found crying into his beer at a nearby pub. Another said it was the most disturbing thing he’d seen since Milli Vanilli in spandex on Top of the Pops.
Firmino is also charged with multiple counts of abuse of a football, forcing it to do things felt to be wholly unnatural, and several counts of defying the laws of physics, including being in three places at once, and possessing the ability to see through brick walls.
Representatives for the Brazilian, asked if their client was guilty, said “Si señor”. Apparently the incidents in question were all caught on video, and as such, Firmino is believed to be “bang to rights”.
It is believed that the police forensics unit also want to check for hazardous material in Firmino’s teeth enamel, with the Brazilian suspected of concealing plutonium and uranium, and smuggling it across national borders.
In connection to the alleged crimes of Firmino, a 58-year old man from Corbridge, Northumberland, is being sought as a possible victim. The man in question is described as having “a big fat head”.
The rest of this article is for subscribers only.
Share
Paul Tomkins
The creator of this website; author of several books on Liverpool FC, and of one novel. Co-creator of The Transfer Price Index (TPI). Columnist on the official Liverpool FC website between 2005-2010. International man of mystery. Possibly bald.More by Paul Tomkins
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Tomkins is an international man of mystery alright. It's a mystery how he hasn't been kneecapped for this type of bilge.
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