Konate - Is he worth it?

[bluebell]

I'm not suggesting we sell him this window, but surely his injury record is starting to grate on some people?
His unavailability means we have to rely on Gomez and Matip both whom worry me. When Gomez is pressed, he often makes the wrong decision
If Konate has long injury spells like last season, come next summer, I would want him gone!

 

[MomoWASright]

Is he injured?

 

[bluebell]

Is he injured?

Only a matter of time

 

[MomoWASright]

[article]
22/23 Muscle Injury 28 days 5
22/23 Knee Injury 55 days 8

[/article]

13 games over 2 seasons isn’t that bad is it? Especially compared to some of the bell ends we’ve had.

 

[binomial]

That's 1 season Momo, you daft twat.

What about his first season with us when he wasn't fit to play more than 4 games in a row.

 

[binomial]

I'm not suggesting we sell him this window, but surely his injury record is starting to grate on some people?
His unavailability means we have to rely on Gomez and Matip both whom worry me. When Gomez is pressed, he often makes the wrong decision
If Konate has long injury spells like last season, come next summer, I would want him gone!

Get rid of all 3 next summer and bring in 3 new CB's.

 

[bluebell]

[article]
22/23 Muscle Injury 28 days 5
22/23 Knee Injury 55 days 8

[/article]

13 games over 2 seasons isn’t that bad is it? Especially compared to some of the bell ends we’ve had.

He played 18 league games last season and only 11 the year before. Should we not worry when a player can only play half a season or less?
[xtable=skin1]
{thead}
{tr}
{th}Season{/th}
{th}Injury{/th}
{th}from{/th}
{th}until{/th}
{th}Days{/th}
{th}Games missed{/th}
{/tr}
{/thead}
{tbody}
{tr}
{td}22/23{/td}
{td}Muscle Injury{/td}
{td}Jan 30, 2023{/td}
{td}Feb 27, 2023{/td}
{td}28 days{/td}
{td}5{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}22/23{/td}
{td}Knee Injury{/td}
{td}Aug 1, 2022{/td}
{td}Sep 25, 2022{/td}
{td}55 days{/td}
{td}8{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}20/21{/td}
{td}Ankle Injury{/td}
{td}Dec 17, 2020{/td}
{td}Feb 4, 2021{/td}
{td}49 days{/td}
{td}9{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}20/21{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}Jul 1, 2020{/td}
{td}Oct 15, 2020{/td}
{td}106 days{/td}
{td}6{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}19/20{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}May 22, 2020{/td}
{td}Jun 5, 2020{/td}
{td}14 days{/td}
{td}3{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}19/20{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}Oct 3, 2019{/td}
{td}Mar 11, 2020{/td}
{td}160 days{/td}
{td}27{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

 

[KopRed]

I feel sorry for him sometimes, constantly having to chase down wingers exploiting the big hole left by Trent. You can see he's not comfortable out there but is trying his best. Can't fault his effort.

 

[MomoWASright]

That's 1 season Momo, you daft twat.

What about his first season with us when he wasn't fit to play more than 4 games in a row.

Blame transfermarkt for the incorrect season markings. Here’s the full breakdown including incorrect seasons. It’s still is broken down to season just incorrectly listed.

22/23 Muscle Injury 28 days 5
22/23 Knee Injury 55 days 8
20/21 Ankle Injury 49 days 9
20/21 Torn Muscle Fibre 106 days 6
19/20 Torn Muscle Fibre 14 days 3
19/20 Torn Muscle Fibre 160 days 27

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ibrahima-konate/verletzungen/spieler/357119

 

[MomoWASright]

He played 18 league games last season and only 11 the year before. Should we not worry when a player can only play half a season or less?
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{th}Injury{/th}
{th}from{/th}
{th}until{/th}
{th}Days{/th}
{th}Games missed{/th}
{/tr}
{/thead}
{tbody}
{tr}
{td}22/23{/td}
{td}Muscle Injury{/td}
{td}Jan 30, 2023{/td}
{td}Feb 27, 2023{/td}
{td}28 days{/td}
{td}5{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}22/23{/td}
{td}Knee Injury{/td}
{td}Aug 1, 2022{/td}
{td}Sep 25, 2022{/td}
{td}55 days{/td}
{td}8{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}20/21{/td}
{td}Ankle Injury{/td}
{td}Dec 17, 2020{/td}
{td}Feb 4, 2021{/td}
{td}49 days{/td}
{td}9{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}20/21{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}Jul 1, 2020{/td}
{td}Oct 15, 2020{/td}
{td}106 days{/td}
{td}6{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}19/20{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}May 22, 2020{/td}
{td}Jun 5, 2020{/td}
{td}14 days{/td}
{td}3{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}19/20{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}Oct 3, 2019{/td}
{td}Mar 11, 2020{/td}
{td}160 days{/td}
{td}27{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

Is your issue with the games he plays or your incorrect thinking that he’s always injured?

 

[Hansern]

Konate is worth it. He’s boss.

 

[binomial]

Blame transfermarkt for the incorrect season markings. Here’s the full breakdown including incorrect seasons. It’s still is broken down to season just incorrectly listed.

22/23 Muscle Injury 28 days 5
22/23 Knee Injury 55 days 8
20/21 Ankle Injury 49 days 9
20/21 Torn Muscle Fibre 106 days 6
19/20 Torn Muscle Fibre 14 days 3
19/20 Torn Muscle Fibre 160 days 27

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ibrahima-konate/verletzungen/spieler/357119

That's 1 season Transfermarkt you daft twat.

 

[binomial]

I actually blame Klopp as well, playing him in that stupid friendly a week before the season was due to start.

Daft twat.

 

[LMG]

He played 18 league games last season and only 11 the year before. Should we not worry when a player can only play half a season or less?
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{th}Injury{/th}
{th}from{/th}
{th}until{/th}
{th}Days{/th}
{th}Games missed{/th}
{/tr}
{/thead}
{tbody}
{tr}
{td}22/23{/td}
{td}Muscle Injury{/td}
{td}Jan 30, 2023{/td}
{td}Feb 27, 2023{/td}
{td}28 days{/td}
{td}5{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}22/23{/td}
{td}Knee Injury{/td}
{td}Aug 1, 2022{/td}
{td}Sep 25, 2022{/td}
{td}55 days{/td}
{td}8{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}20/21{/td}
{td}Ankle Injury{/td}
{td}Dec 17, 2020{/td}
{td}Feb 4, 2021{/td}
{td}49 days{/td}
{td}9{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}20/21{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}Jul 1, 2020{/td}
{td}Oct 15, 2020{/td}
{td}106 days{/td}
{td}6{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}19/20{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}May 22, 2020{/td}
{td}Jun 5, 2020{/td}
{td}14 days{/td}
{td}3{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}19/20{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}Oct 3, 2019{/td}
{td}Mar 11, 2020{/td}
{td}160 days{/td}
{td}27{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

He wasn't Virg's preferred partner 2 seasons ago in the league, and I would argue for most of last season. Matip was.

 

[MomoWASright]

[article]
Injury From To Games Missed
Broad Injury 21/05/23 27/05/23 0
03/02/23 28/02/23 4
Broad Injury 15/12/22 17/12/22 0
Broad Injury 13/10/22 25/10/22 4
Knee 05/08/22 04/10/22 10
Broad Injury 06/03/22 15/03/22

[/article]

From another source, team talk, it doesn’t seem too bad. The 10 games missed seem to be the outlier. Since joining he’s had 49 appearances and been on the bench 38 times. Overall, not bad.

 

[MomoWASright]

I actually blame Klopp as well, playing him in that stupid friendly a week before the season was due to start.

Daft twat.

Considering your posting history, I don’t think you are in a position to be calling anyone a daft twat.

 

[binomial]

Considering your posting history, I don’t think you are in a position to be calling anyone a daft twat.

Ye fockin' daft twat considering my posting history.

 

[Frogfish]

He played 18 league games last season and only 11 the year before. Should we not worry when a player can only play half a season or less?
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{th}Season{/th}
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{th}until{/th}
{th}Days{/th}
{th}Games missed{/th}
{/tr}
{/thead}
{tbody}
{tr}
{td}22/23{/td}
{td}Muscle Injury{/td}
{td}Jan 30, 2023{/td}
{td}Feb 27, 2023{/td}
{td}28 days{/td}
{td}5{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}22/23{/td}
{td}Knee Injury{/td}
{td}Aug 1, 2022{/td}
{td}Sep 25, 2022{/td}
{td}55 days{/td}
{td}8{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}20/21{/td}
{td}Ankle Injury{/td}
{td}Dec 17, 2020{/td}
{td}Feb 4, 2021{/td}
{td}49 days{/td}
{td}9{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}20/21{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}Jul 1, 2020{/td}
{td}Oct 15, 2020{/td}
{td}106 days{/td}
{td}6{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}19/20{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}May 22, 2020{/td}
{td}Jun 5, 2020{/td}
{td}14 days{/td}
{td}3{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}19/20{/td}
{td}Torn Muscle Fibre{/td}
{td}Oct 3, 2019{/td}
{td}Mar 11, 2020{/td}
{td}160 days{/td}
{td}27{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

Missing 13-15 games is ¼ season, not half ! Ignoring the first 3 injuries - which may have been the same one and he was brought back too early (anyone?) he's had three very different injuries. Not panicking yet.

 

[Frogfish]

He wasn't Virg's preferred partner 2 seasons ago in the league, and I would argue for most of last season. Matip was.

Well that's irrelevant - those are games missed whether he'd have been chosen or not.

 

[bluebell]

Missing 13-15 games is ¼ season, not half ! Ignoring the first 3 injuries - which may have been the same one and he was brought back too early (anyone?) he's had three very different injuries. Not panicking yet.

He played 18 games out of a possible 36... Him being on the bench was trying to manage his fitness. The question I asked, if his absence is equally bad, should he be sold?

 

[darkstarexodus]

He played 18 games out of a possible 36... Him being on the bench was trying to manage his fitness. The question I asked, if his absence is equally bad, should he be sold?

He played less his first season because Matip hadn't been lobotomized yet and was in good form.

He was eased into the side and has easily been our most impressive centerback since his emergence. And yeah, I'd include Virgil in that list.

 

[moron]

He played less his first season because Matip hadn't been lobotomized yet and was in good form.

He was eased into the side and has easily been our most impressive centerback since his emergence. And yeah, I'd include Virgil in that list.

FACTS !!!

 

[mom]

He’s a great talent and as long as he gets no regular injury issues, will no doubt only get better.

 

[binomial]

He’s a great talent and as long as he gets no regular injury issues, will no doubt only get better.

FACTS !!!

 

[bluebell]

He’s a great talent and as long as he gets no regular injury issues, will no doubt only get better.

Would you put money on him not missing 1/4 to 1/2 the games this season?

 

[mom]

Would you put money on him not missing 1/4 to 1/2 the games this season?

I don’t gamble.

 

[Northern Comfort]

Superb player, just needs to stay focused and fit, FFS

 

[keniget]

There's no need to pretend it's not an issue - it has been.

But he is worth it. At his best, he's a top tier defender... really hoping he has a breakout season this year.

 

[Markeh]

Nat Phillips Liverpool career exists because of defenders like Konate. No shade he’s good, it’s why we need a bit of depth at CB though.

 

[Squiggles]

Konate is fine in isolation, and I genuinely think he could become a monster CB. The issues are he's backed up by Matip and Gomez, who could make the Chuckle Brothers look like prime Nesta and Maldini.