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NBA 2020-21

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by dmishra, Nov 16, 2020.

  1. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    Yah they are basically the same level with an injured Paul ... if he's healthy, you win ... hopefully somehow, he is.
     
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    He doesn't look good. Shoulder's bothering him and he can't shoot at all. He sat out most of the 4th quarter today.

    I think he needs about a week or two heal.
     
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    I am kinda hoping both LA teams get knocked out this round.
     
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    Loved this pic from last night:

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    dmishra Very Well-Known Member

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    What on earth is wrong with the Clippers? Luka is incredible, but that Mavs team isn't that good that it should be taking a 2-0 lead on the road.

    George is an absolute fraud, and there's now something clearly wrong with Kawhi as well.
     
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    I think that's really being harsh on the Mavs ... they've shot 45%+ from 3s in both games, because they don't know what to with Luka.
    They are continually letting him get into 1v1 vs Beverely or Zubac, instead of Kwahi and PG.
    What's amazing about his two games is he's got 5 points total in the 4th quarters ... The Mavericks team is just hitting shots - Hardaway, Brunson (I think one of the best back up PG in the game), DFS & KP.
    I just think George is struggling with the pressure - it's a far different animal, and he's proven since he's joined teams that expect to win, he's struggled.
    I don't know what's up with Kwahi - but he's with a different team next year ... Maybe the pressure of actually having to win as the leader or bona fide star is too much for him. Never had to do it with the Spurs or Raptors (he was the star here but there was no pressure to win).
    Series isn't over yet though ...
     
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    Haven't watched much of that series. I like Brunson, great player. All those Villanova kids are terrific. I don't think DFS or Hardaway or even KP are a good enough cast to do serious damage in the playoffs. Looks like Luka is hurt now too. No matter though, you'll put a great squad around Luka sooner rather than later.

    Meanwhile, the Suns-Lakers series has taken another twist. Chris Paul played the best he has so far, though he's clearly still not anywhere close to a 100%. AD is now out with a groin injury and might miss game 5.

    Let's hope we give them complete hell. Want to send the Lakers back home crying.
     
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    Fuck the Lakers.
     
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    I'm not even a basketball fan but just came in here to say...

    Did anyone catch the Nuggets v the Trailblazers?

    Damien Lillard is amazing! CLUTCH.
     
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    Bye bye Lakers!

    Suns hand Lebron the first Round 1 exit of his career.
     
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    One series left ...
    2 of 3 on West, 2 of 4 in the East ... Hope same % on West as on east! :)
     
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    Any updates on the Chris Paul injury. Will he be somewhat normal in the next round?
     
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    From what I've read, he's had a few scans and they've all come back clean - indicating no structural damage to the shoulder. It's been diagnosed as a stinger or a nerve injury, which probably needs a week to 10 days to fully heal. At the moment, shooting seems painful for him because he's trying to avoid shooting as much as possible.

    He'll get about 3 days off before the Nuggets series, so I'm hoping that gives him some relief.
     
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    Isn't Porzingis supposed to be a star player?
     
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    Struggling like crazy most of the year to get into rhythm
     
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    Injuries or not really as good as hyped up to be or a bit of both?
     
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    Injuries have messed him up.
    Rumors in Big D that him and Luka don't really get along.
    He can right that in game 7 though ...
     
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    Mavs out .. another monster game from Luka but for nought ... My thoughts ...

    1) Front Office ... Cuban has been great obviously, but what he did after the first championship. He broke up a really really good team, that still Dirk in his prime, in hope some star will join ... and since then, we've been out of the playoffs or bounced after a season. I don't exactly get why we cannot sign high caliber free agents - great city, no state tax, great owner etc etc - but something has to give. The team has a 'piece' ... which leads me to ...
    2) Doncic ... He's unreal. He's not "Baby Bird", Bird was an unreal shooter and defender. Maybe he's more of a poor defensive version of LeBron? He's unreal but I worry about two things. 1) He's not like Dirk - so I can see him bolting to LA or NY or Miami in 2 years 2) he needs what LeBron needed to get over the hump - he needs a DWade to teach him how to be that guy, to be a winner as an individual and teammate.
    3) Last but not least, Carlisle ... @Karl Hungus is right, hes a great coach. But I think he may need to move on. reasons?
    a) I don't think he's best for today's players.
    b) He had some really good rookies - and barely incorporated them. He took a while to figure out what kind of player he had with Luka too ...
    c) He cost us this series - for two reasons. 1) We're up 2-0, and 30-19 (or whatever it was) in game 3 and he takes out Doncic ... Clippers go on a run and their 'fake confidence' gets backed by results and the Mavs lose 4 of 5 - why not go for the kill and try to go into the half with a large lead and destroy them? 2) his inability to counter the Clippers continually putting a wingman on KP. POST HIM UP - even though he hates it - and force the defense to change so it frees up the KP/Doncic pick and roll. Maybe I'm being too harsh but we should have won this series.

    I grew up watching the NBA of the 90s ... great defense nad offense mixed together - today's NBA is about unreal scoring, and you just rarely get teams playing close games in the 80s or 90 point ranges. That's the thing - Harden and Steph changed the NBA. Losing interest in it though hope the Suns (and if not, Nuggest or Bucks) win it all so Dmish can be happy!
     
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    LTW, I would hardly lose interest at this point! Luka is under contract, and will be with Dallas on a cost-controlled rookie deal for 4 years, plus another 5 years on his first extension. So you'll have him for another 6 years at least!

    That's more than enough time to build a genuine contender around him. I think the KP gamble has backfired - he is simply not good enough, and should be traded. The Cavs are looking to shop Sexton, so I think that's potentially a trade that could be worked. Sexton is potentially a great long term running mate for Luka.

    Beyond that, I don't agree at today's NBA is only about scoring. Steph won the title not just because of the Warriors' incredible scoring ability, but also because they were a hugely underrated defensive team. Klay, Draymond, Iguodala and Bogut were all outstanding defenders.

    The Mavs defense as presently constructed is simply not good enough. You need to scour the trade and FA markets heavily for some good defensive role players to round off the roster once you build around Luka and a 2nd star.
     

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