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One of the few useful things a captain does these days is intervene with the ref if a teammate gets into trouble. I've been critical of Gerrard but he actually does this very well these days and calms situations very effectively. Reina would be about as much use in such situations as Stephen Hawking at the world's fastest rap competition. He'd wear the armband, that would be the beginning and end of his contribution. It has to be an outfield player.
Pepe runs faster than Bolt when it looks like there's about to be a sending off at the other end of the pitch.
 
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/fans-back-agger-for-vice-captaincy

Fans back Agger for vice-captaincy

26th May 2013 - Latest News
Liverpool fans have backed Danish defender Daniel Agger to become the club's next vice-captain following the retirement of Jamie Carragher last weekend.
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  • Brendan Rodgers has yet to nominate a member of his squad to replace Carragher as Steven Gerrard's deputy, but Agger edged the vote when we canvassed supporters' opinion.
The centre-back, who passed 200 appearances for the Reds during the recently completed season, picked up 44 per cent in our online poll - ahead of Spanish goalkeeper Pepe Reina on 31 per cent.
Lucas Leiva and Luis Suarez each tallied seven per cent of the votes, while Jordan Henderson rounded out the top five on three per cent.
Agger already wears the skipper's armband for his national team, Denmark, and the 28-year-old has established himself as first-choice under Rodgers; the defender featured on 39 occasions during 2012-13.
For his part, Reina has previously captained the Reds 20 times in the Barclays Premier League in the absence of Carragher and Gerrard, while Suarez was skipper against Oldham last season.
 
Seeing as Rodgers had to bring Carra back into the tam because he thought it was too quiet and lacked leadership, it's unlikely he fancies anyone currently in the squad to be vice captain. If he brings in a new player who will change this, he should go the whole way and make him vice-captain.
 
I think Wisdom will make a fine captain if he continues to make progress and cements his place as a regular starter in a couple of seasons.
 
If Pepe stays, it will be him.

Agger or Lucas becoming vice-captain would depress me, because I don't think they're good enough to be part of the core we want going forward.

Henderson's the only other choice, but he's too young and still unproven.


You mean 'from now on' or 'in the furture'. 'Going forward' is one of the worst examples of business buzzword bullshit. Please refrain from using it.
 
You mean 'from now on' or 'in the furture'. 'Going forward' is one of the worst examples of business buzzword bullshit. Please refrain from using it.


Everyone knows what the term means, why call someone out for a certain turn of phrase? A bit uncalled for if you ask me.
 
Going forward, let's consign this inane phrase to history

Superfluous, meaningless but ubiquitous, it arrived from corporate America and now permeates every area of our lives
Barack Obama does it, David Cameron does it; film stars and advertising people do it; even national newspaper editors do it. But let's not do it. Going forward, let's not utter or write the superfluous, meaningless, ubiquitous "going forward".
It is impossible to get through a meeting today without being verbally assaulted by this inanity. And it nearly always is verbal; you have to be truly unthinking to commit it to paper. When I hear those two words it is my signal to switch off and think about something more interesting, such as Preston North End's prospects going forward. See how easy it is to lapse into this vacuousness.
It is sometimes deployed as an add-on – a kind of burp – at the end of a sentence; sometimes, as with "like" or "you know", it seems to serve as punctuation. But it is especially infuriating when used with the word plan. I heard somebody say a few days ago: "Going forward, the plan is … " How can a plan be about anything but the future? Planning the past would be a remarkable facility.
Why do people speak like this? The online Urban Dictionary offers two possible explanations: the first defines "going forward" as "a phrase that business people use to mean someone completely fucked up big time but we don't want to dwell on whose fault it was; instead can we all just adopt an optimistic outlook and please can we all start thinking about the future, not the shithole of a present that we're in?"
The other, less scatalogical definition is: "Going forward is purported to mean 'in the future' or 'somewhere down the road' when in fact it is an attempt to dodge the use of these words, which generally indicate 'I don't know'. A newer development in corporate doublespeak, in most companies it is grounds for dismissal to release a press release without mentioning something 'going forward'. Going forward, you will likely see this turning up everywhere: 'Our company expects to make a profit going forward'; 'We don't expect any layoffs going forward'."
I blame the businessmen and women of America – still the undisputed world leader in abusing the English language. It is difficult to pinpoint the birth of "going forward". But my former colleague at the Financial Times, Lucy Kellaway, has accused the US Securities and Exchange Commission.
Given the mess that American capitalism is in, we should not be surprised to learn that the body that regulates the nation's stock exchanges, among other things, specialises in obfuscation. Kellaway has fought a valiant but ultimately doomed campaign against "going forward".
Another attempt was made by a British website, the Institution of Silly and Meaningless Sayings (isms), which kept a "going-forward-ometer" until the people running it gave up, exasperated, nine months later, after recording hundreds of instances.
It cites nonsenses such as: "He's coming back to help going forward"; "We cannot back down, going forward"; "Problems for England's backs, going forward"; "Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal, going forward." The last one was a joke, of course: Abraham Lincoln would never have perpetrated such a solecism.
While it may have started in corporate America, "going forward" has now penetrated every area of British life. It even came from the mouth of the multilingual Emily Maitlis on Newsnight the other evening. Comically, her interviewee shot back with a "going forward".
You would think that Formula 1 was an organisation that, self-evidently, did not need to underline the direction in which it was moving. But when F1 in the US appointed Steve Sexton as president it announced: "He will be a tremendous asset to our operation going forward."
I want to know, guys, about your races going backwards.
Mark Seacombe is deputy production editor of the Observer
 
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