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We need to talk about Keita..

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by The Nomad, Feb 4, 2019.

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  1. gkmacca

    gkmacca SCM Addict Member

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    You're quite happy to exaggerate those positions with which you disagree. That's another classic SCM trope: whilst preening yourself for your objectivity and virtue, demonising everyone else for falling so far short of your lofty standards. Instead of, you know, winding your neck in and just agreeing to disagree.
     
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    Peatcheo Well-Known Member

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    He does something boss one minute, then something completely idiotic the next.

    You can clearly see he has bags of talent, fingers crossed he finds his feet soon.
     
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    manwithnoname Bravo old man. Bravo. Member

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    I hope he finds his fucking brain first, although he might need to borrow an electron microscope.
     
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    darkstarexodus Well-Known Member

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    I'm beginning to think he's not keita out for the Premier League.
     
  5. davud graham

    davud graham Dude Member

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    That's a good point about players being in positions they're not comfortable with and Milner looks all at sea at right back. Apart from Trent they're aren't many young players getting much of a go in the league as Klopp tends to play them all in the league and Fa cup as he isn't arsed about them. Sometimes is might be better playing a kid in his natural position rather than a midfielder in defence who's all over the place positionally. Milner in place of Keita or Lallana would have given the midfield much better balance last night and a young lad at right back couldn't have done much worse than MIlner defensively really.
     
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    Hes muck. We made a mistake. He shouldnt be playing.
     
  7. Markeh

    Markeh Very Well-Known Member

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    I'd start him against Bournemouth and not just out of injury based necessity, he needs games and I'd like to see if he can build on his last two matches. Provided he starts beside two of our preferred centre midfielders.

    I'd also bin Milner at right back.
     
  8. Woland

    Woland Part of the Furniture Member

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    He took a year off and can't get his shit together again. See Torres and Sanchez for other cases of this terrible disease. Thoughts and prayers.
     
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    Mystic Moderator Moderator

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    Ha, no, if people are gonna post such hyperbolic shite like the posts below (and that's just from this thread) , I'm gonna contest them, there's no exegeration. I'm glad you appreciate my high level of objectivity, though.


     
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    He has been in the team largely when we have been disjointed and without rhythm. There are a few things here 1) you could argue that part of his role is to drive and create rhythm and 2) you could argue that it is hard for anyone to perform well when we are playing with our heads down.

    Either way - he is struggling and Klopp has tried to show faith in him to inspire his confidence (rather than saying 'i don't trust you sit on the bench') and it hasn't paid off.
     
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    .. don't shave?
     
  13. The Nomad

    The Nomad Well-Known Member

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    So he had a great game did he?

    Wasn't at fault for the goal?
    Didn't jog back after losing the ball?

    #mysticvision
     
  14. Brizzle

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    This line I disagree with, I guess the only thing he could have done better is go down when shoved by Noble? But bit risky. No shove and he gets a block in. It was very clever from West Ham, i think trying to pin that one on Naby is a bit desperate. I agree that he is under performing though.
     
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    Keita has been very disappointing so far in his short career with us. It's also frustrating as he was the summer signing we could all get behind. He still looks very talented so let's not write him off as a dud yet. Fabinho went from the bench to the hypothetical transfer list to become our most important midfielder in the space of a month.

    I don't get the aggressive hate towards Keita though. It does seem like a certain section of poster and fans out there have really gotten stuck into him. There is no agenda as everyone wanted him to succeed but I do think he is getting too much flak when others around him as also under performing. I think Shaq is benefiting from the extra attention Keita is receiving right now. His poor performances haven't been documented much recently. He has been way below par for a while now.

    The whole 'saga' nearly reminds me of Aqualani. We all wanted him to do well, he looked excellent in clips, the hype was there. His performances were, like Keita's are now, viewed under a microscope. He was bashed for a sloppy pass even though others around him were as guilty and then any decent pass he made was gushed over.

    Keita deserves some support as he's clearly a talented player. Has his lived up to the fee and hype -No. Will he turn it around - Hope so.
     
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    There's no 'aggressive hate'. Why those who like a player or aren't much bothered either way or are wannabe PR representatives of him have to portray critics as lantern-lit, noose-tying, eye-bulging zealots intent on 'agenda-setting' and 'witch-hunting' is beyond me. He's a huge disappointment. That provokes exasperation and intense frustration if you think there''s potential there. No agenda. No witch hunt. Just disappointment and frustration and concern (cranked up every now and again by those who intervene to protest he's doing fine).
     
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    Very good post. Still unable to wrap my head around why Clyne was allowed to leave. In 2009 January, we sold Keane and did not replace him. In the 2014 title chase, we did not strengthen and was running on fumes by the time we reached May. It looks like the same thing has happened now.
     
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    if Hendo & Gini aren't back for Sat. What do we do? He needs benching, but how do we address that midfield?
     
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    I haven't noticed protestations that he's doing fine. Perhaps a few are pointing out some positive moments Keita is having but the general consensus is that he has been a major disappointment so far.

    Not sure what to class as aggressive hate but on this forum I'm pretty sure I've read dud, useless, liability etc which all seem OTT when the player is clearly talented. He isn't showing it right now which is concern and a worry. Will he turn it around - I hope so. For the record, I'd all fit, I'd play Fabinho, Gini and Keita in midfield with Henderson rotated in and out. That is potentially our best mix.
     
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    Clyne clearly left for non footballing reasons. It's frustrating but Klopp didn't seem interested in playing him.
     
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