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Andy Carroll

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Can you recall him busting a gut to get onto a pass though Spidey? To me he always appears to be in the wrong place at the right time, and useless at making space for himself anywhere near the box.
 
Carroll just isn't intelligent enough to play alone upfront. Or at all for a top club.
He just doesn't have it in him it seems and I don't think it could be taught.
 
ye his movement is one of the worst things about him imo. a lot of the time youl see him drop back to get the ball, pass it to somebody thats running up and he moves to the wing, the fucking wing!!! we've got enough shit wingers without him setting himself up there. i honestly think, at the moment, youd be hard pressed to find another striker that contributes as little as he does when playing a full game.
 
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That can happen to any player. He still played appallingly but there's no need to search out things like that.
 
I'm more concerned that there isn't one red shirt in sight after the mishit. It kind of somes up our attacking play this season.
 
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You could make a montage of all his fresh air shots from this season.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48385.msg1468739#msg1468739 date=1327258207]
How many? Three? It's a bit superfluous.
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Probably a montage of more air shots than goals this season though.
 
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48385.msg1468739#msg1468739 date=1327258207]
How many? Three? It's a bit superfluous.
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Probably a montage of more air shots than goals this season though.
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Oh let's just lay off on Auntie Carroll. She'll be moved on in the summer.
 
I agree with Tony.

The lack of desire he shows to get into the box is what annoys me the most. Three times yesterday that I can recall, the player on the wing looked up to see Gerrard & Henderson making forward runs, whilst fuck nuts just fucking trots into the area at a snails pace. Fuck that. That can't be tolerated, it just can't be.

I only hope Martin O'Neill keeps winning games at Sunderland and convinces the board to buy him from us. He'll pay good money for him, he always pays top dollar for English internationals. Thing is, with his man management skills, he'd probably get the sack of shit scoring again. That said, he'd probably never sign for them cos he's such a die hard Geordie. Who else would buy him, 'Arry?
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=48385.msg1468567#msg1468567 date=1327240239]
Andy Carroll is a very good footballer, never worth £35m but easily in the £15m-£20m bracket. Stewart Downing is a decent wide player but worth about £10m not the £20m we paid.

The problem is they're been managed badly and playing well below the required standard.

If Martin O'Neill or Harry Redknapp were in charge of our current squad we would be right on the heels of the top teams.
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Much as I dislike the last part of this post there's a lot of sense. A good manager identifies the team's needs and then gets the best out of his players. Kenny has done that well in the past, he certainly was getting better performances out of players last season. I understand there is frustration with Carroll and Downing, I understand this is compounded by a less-than-evident determination on Carroll's part to put things right, but we can become a hugely improved team if we can get the best out of these two players. That should be the fervent hope of all LFC fans. Again I understand the frustration, but trying to outdo each other in vituperative comments seems pointless and a waste of time. While they wear the red I'll be hoping they improve. Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone too much.
 
He did OK in the first half yesterday but as Gary said, it's wrong to single him out when everyone was poor yesterday.
In fairness we never give him in the ball in front of goal. He always plays with his back to goal and the service from wide areas has been dreadful.
I can only think of one good cross to him was when he smashed it against the bar when we beat Newcastle.
The 'shot' he completley missed yesterday though was terrible. No excuse for that, or the heavy first touch.
 
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Remember his goal against us? Quality.
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We have to stop buying players who play well against us...Pennant's another example.
 
In fairness it was something we used to do all through the glory days. What we have to make sure of is that we get the right ones.
 
[quote author=Woland link=topic=48385.msg1468805#msg1468805 date=1327266887]
20m bid for Reo Coker.
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For reals?
 
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[quote author=Woland link=topic=48385.msg1468805#msg1468805 date=1327266887]
20m bid for Reo Coker.
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For reals?
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I think that's a whoosh for Mr Fox
 
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20m bid for Reo Coker.
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For reals?
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Come on Jon. I know we're mad but we're not THAT fucking mad.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48385.msg1468716#msg1468716 date=1327256516]
That can happen to any player. He still played appallingly but there's no need to search out things like that.
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I don't want to argue with you, as you're a good poster and I rarely disagree with you. However to imply that I spent time searching for that is laughable. Try Googling Andy Carroll or have a look at any of the Andy Carroll threads on any supporter site. I got that Gif from RAWK, a Liverpool supporter site that is famed for being utterly blinkered when it comes to accessing Liverpool players (unless it's a legend like Gerrard who then seems to be open for criticism and lies).

I know you blame the media, you always blame the media, but the reality is that we have a problem and we spent £35million pounds to acquire that problem.
 
[quote author=mike2903 link=topic=48385.msg1468089#msg1468089 date=1327175024]
I've never seen a worse player in our shirt.

He's a poor footballer with no touch, no brain, no pace, no skill......

We were desperate and got well and truly mugged.
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You never saw Nicky Tanner then? Or Jimmy Carter? Strangely both bought by Kenny too...
 
[quote author=mike2903 link=topic=48385.msg1468089#msg1468089 date=1327175024]
I've never seen a worse player in our shirt.

He's a poor footballer with no touch, no brain, no pace, no skill......

We were desperate and got well and truly mugged.
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I presume that you are either:

a) 14 years old or
b) pissed when you made that statement
 
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[quote author=mike2903 link=topic=48385.msg1468089#msg1468089 date=1327175024]
I've never seen a worse player in our shirt.
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He's a poor footballer with no touch, no brain, no pace, no skill......
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We were desperate and got well and truly mugged.
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I presume that you are either:

a) 14 years old or
b) pissed when you made that statement
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[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=48385.msg1468915#msg1468915 date=1327277484]
[quote author=mike2903 link=topic=48385.msg1468089#msg1468089 date=1327175024]
I've never seen a worse player in our shirt.
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He's a poor footballer with no touch, no brain, no pace, no skill......
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We were desperate and got well and truly mugged.
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I presume that you are either:

a) 14 years old or
b) pissed when you made that statement
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yes Im sorry. I meant to bold the first point.
 
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