Are you ready to pull the lever?
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Not immediately. But he shouldn't have a free roll on the rest of the season either.
We need to qualify for Champions League. And we need to look not completely clueless each and every game.
He's got a few more matches to turn it around, in performances even if not quite results (or, frankly, even the reverse). If not, then the knives need to come out.
I'm not optimistic about his chances but we're not quite there yet.
We need to qualify for Champions League. And we need to look not completely clueless each and every game.
He's got a few more matches to turn it around, in performances even if not quite results (or, frankly, even the reverse). If not, then the knives need to come out.
I'm not optimistic about his chances but we're not quite there yet.
Dude. Wake up. No manager, anywhere, ever, would survive much longer of this sort of form.
We just bought a fuck ton of players and require what looked like a very safe bet of CL qualification for that not to cause us some financial distress. It should be an easy bet too, because while our team had challenges, we were very competitive, and we were allowed to spend.
SO you've got the owners who paid for new upper level management to come in who oversaw the purchase of those players, and then you've got an end product that will hurt their pocket books.
So someone is going to get sacked if this continues, as would be the case anywhere. Here though, it's even more simple. How do we fix this will be the question. There's two guys who are quite close who will be pointing their fingers at the bald guy. What will he have to say to defend himself. I won a league? Past performance is not indicative of future results will come the reply.
Theres no hysteria here. We've been shit for a long while now. We are getting worse, and worse and worse. If you don't see how desperate the situation is, slot does. He just forfeited a game at anfield because of it.
We treaded water once with Brendan and lucked into Klopp. Perhaps the only logical answer to keeping him in the hotseat is that there's no outstanding candidate to take over. Come summer, his passivity in the face of an abysmal run of form should mean his position be under consideration regardless.
Casted my vote for others (decision to stick or twist after the next 3 matches - there's an international break after the Man City match).
With Villa (unbeaten in last 6 league matches), Real Madrid and Man City up next, and given our current form, it's hard to be optimistic about results. The bare minimum we need to see is a clear improvement in performance—we need Slot to show he has a plan and that he hasn't lost the dressing room.
Out of curiosity, did a check on past title winning managers' sackings:
With Villa (unbeaten in last 6 league matches), Real Madrid and Man City up next, and given our current form, it's hard to be optimistic about results. The bare minimum we need to see is a clear improvement in performance—we need Slot to show he has a plan and that he hasn't lost the dressing room.
Out of curiosity, did a check on past title winning managers' sackings:
For me Slot is still the same manager who won us the league - the thing that changed is the squad and also the league playing style (more physical, more set pieces, etc). I am willing to give Slot time to turn this around - but my controversial opinion is if there is no significant improvement in form then Salah must be forced to leave for Saudi in January.
The manager has been put in an impossible position of trying to fit a defensively non-contributing undroppable star player alonside two big signings in Wirtz and Isak who are both hardly defensive monsters. It doesn’t work as a system and exposes our defence. Removing a manager will do nothing to solve this problem - the only way out of this is to solve the actual issue.
The manager has been put in an impossible position of trying to fit a defensively non-contributing undroppable star player alonside two big signings in Wirtz and Isak who are both hardly defensive monsters. It doesn’t work as a system and exposes our defence. Removing a manager will do nothing to solve this problem - the only way out of this is to solve the actual issue.
I said other and it's the same thinking as binny, but I'd be looking now.
I don't understand the idea that we can't sack him in a rebuild. For one thing, he's not the person undertaking the personnel decisions, and neither will be his replacement. More importantly though, the whole problem is that he doesn't seem to be able to do the rebuild. He seemed much better dealing with what someone else built.
All he is doing right now is demolition.
I don't understand the idea that we can't sack him in a rebuild. For one thing, he's not the person undertaking the personnel decisions, and neither will be his replacement. More importantly though, the whole problem is that he doesn't seem to be able to do the rebuild. He seemed much better dealing with what someone else built.
All he is doing right now is demolition.
He can drop Salah and deal with the consequences, and he should have.
It’s not so easy - ask Klopp who despite his status at the club could hardly cross Salah. Slot will do it when he has no other choice.
We can only look at what he's done in the past, which was a remarkable rebuild of his team in Holland to win the league when he lost tons of the team's top players. And last season, where as Liverpool manager he won the league.
He still has a chance of turning it around. I voted for him to see out the season, but sure, if we're stuck mid table or worse with our better players back from injury, he should be replaced.
I don't think it's that controversial to think that this season! But I'd only want that to happen if we can get a top quality guy to replace him in Jan (Wirtz is not the answer), and I doubt we have one that's available.
I voted other, and rurik wrote this for me to help me elaborate.
I voted other. I’d sack the fucking gobshite DOF and spreadsheet wankers too.
If he can’t drop Salah get out the fucking club. Grow some fucking balls. What’s that juice head little bald cunt going to do? Go cry to his mates? What mates does he have?
He won’t be sacked now. It’ll be the international break.
If he can’t drop Salah get out the fucking club. Grow some fucking balls. What’s that juice head little bald cunt going to do? Go cry to his mates? What mates does he have?
He won’t be sacked now. It’ll be the international break.
If Klopp wanted to return then even have sacked Slott in the summer to make it happen. That continues to apply.
In other circumstances, and we get some sort of muddling improvement then I think Slot gets the season, but we need top 5.
Another 4 or 5 defeat on the bounce and it's curtains.
In other circumstances, and we get some sort of muddling improvement then I think Slot gets the season, but we need top 5.
Another 4 or 5 defeat on the bounce and it's curtains.
Loyalty means we should stick by him longer than the point where we actually suspect it's over. I'm not sure what that point that is but right now we're still in ungrateful little bitch territory.
I don't really mind chucking the cup game, Klopp chucked the FA Cup virtually every season. But it probably wasn't the wisest move given the context.
I don't really mind chucking the cup game, Klopp chucked the FA Cup virtually every season. But it probably wasn't the wisest move given the context.
I voted other, I don't think you can guarantee him to the end of the season, and I think now is too early. I'm less concerned about results and even our position in the league than I am about his ability to get the team functioning coherently and a majority of our players playing to their ability. If he doesn't sort that, or show signs of beginning to sort that in the next month or two, he should be in serious trouble.
interesting timing of this thread. I can understand the upset after a loss, but for me, he made the right call not playing any first team players. Not an easy one to make so I’m hoping he’s going to make some bold changes with regards to the first team too. Be that the choice of team or playing style. Let’s see.
Too early to ask for him to be sacked. If we go on a run, people will soon calm down.
Too early to ask for him to be sacked. If we go on a run, people will soon calm down.
He fucked up by not playing a first team squad player who isn’t starting against Villa.
Or bring in a manager who will have the balls to make those decisions, because Slot clearly wants to persist with what's obvious.
You start to question how much of last season was actually down to him, rather than just a last hurrah of Salah and the mentality monsters.
We were great in the lead-up to Xmas. After Plymouth, and since, we've been largely awful.
However, we got over the line. City and Arsenal getting low 70s helped of course, most other recent seasons that wouldn't have been the case.
I can't help but think that when the chips have been down, when we've needed something from him, he's been found wanting.
I don't like the idea of us sacking managers, them walking off into the sunshine after another trophy-laden season is much more in keeping with what we're about. But the club can't tolerate mediocrity, especially not after a record spend.
We were great in the lead-up to Xmas. After Plymouth, and since, we've been largely awful.
However, we got over the line. City and Arsenal getting low 70s helped of course, most other recent seasons that wouldn't have been the case.
I can't help but think that when the chips have been down, when we've needed something from him, he's been found wanting.
I don't like the idea of us sacking managers, them walking off into the sunshine after another trophy-laden season is much more in keeping with what we're about. But the club can't tolerate mediocrity, especially not after a record spend.
I'm sort of halfway between Momo and Rurik on this. I think the squad now is too unbalanced and lacking in physicality - not because of players who have left, but because we failed to address particular gaps this summer despite spunking half a million. I think I argued that we needed to bring in Salah's eventual replacement this summer, which I think I was right about, and something I didn't think about is that we needed to bring in a physically imposing central midfielder as none of ours seem to be either any good in the air or generally good at winning duals.
The question is, why didn't anyone at the club see this as a requirement based on the way the league was going in terms of set pieces and physicality? Whose responsibility was this? Because at the moment I feel like whoever might take over from Slot - and there aren't obvious candidates - is going to be stuck with the same issues that I don't feel can be fixed unless we sign a couple of players. Which is a ridiculous situation to be in when you take into account how much we spent.
The question is, why didn't anyone at the club see this as a requirement based on the way the league was going in terms of set pieces and physicality? Whose responsibility was this? Because at the moment I feel like whoever might take over from Slot - and there aren't obvious candidates - is going to be stuck with the same issues that I don't feel can be fixed unless we sign a couple of players. Which is a ridiculous situation to be in when you take into account how much we spent.
Its so strange. I remember watching us win 2-0 at City in late Feb, playing this interesting 4-2-4-0 formation, and thinking how well drilled and professional we looked. And how confident.
It's hard to believe that was still the klopp effect. But now I'm guessing it was. I guess muscle memory is long in football.
My answer to the thread is simple. Pushing the button now is extreme, but we cant keep playing this disorganised shitshow and losing football games. So I guess my answer is see out the next few games and then take it from there.
It's hard to believe that was still the klopp effect. But now I'm guessing it was. I guess muscle memory is long in football.
My answer to the thread is simple. Pushing the button now is extreme, but we cant keep playing this disorganised shitshow and losing football games. So I guess my answer is see out the next few games and then take it from there.