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Should Slot get sacked?

  • Yes, immediately if possible.

  • No, but he has until the end of the year to turn it around.

  • No, winning the league bought him enough time to see out the season.

  • No way.

  • Other, elaborate...

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I'd probably give him until Christmas. That gives a decent chance to turn things around. The worry I guess is whether that would give any replacement the chance to recover if needed.

A couple of things that I do struggle with though. The focus is on Slot, and essentially that it's his responsibility, but at the same time it is said that he has no control over the players in the squad and even has no control over player selection (Salah being undroppable).

If those things are true (I can't see that they are, as who would deal with a job like that), at what point is it actually not really his fault?
 
Also, last night Slot bewildered me further.

A great chance to test some fringe players, try out some new combinations, and bed in a system more.

What does he do? Revert to 3 at the back with a full back at left centre back and a midfielder at right centre back.
 
King Binny said:
Casted my vote for others (decision to stick or twist after the next 3 matches - there's an international break after the Man City match).

With Villa (unbeaten in last 6 league matches), Real Madrid and Man City up next, and given our current form, it's hard to be optimistic about results. The bare minimum we need to see is a clear improvement in performance—we need Slot to show he has a plan and that he hasn't lost the dressing room.


Out of curiosity, did a check on past title winning managers' sackings:
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Yeah but that's a trio of absolute cunts right there
 
Lol so I guess we're moving on from wanting him sacked despite winning us the league to denying that he ever won the league at all.

It was Ghost of Klopp.
 
The Villa game needs to be the turning point.

Improved performance and result might spark enough to get results against Madrid and City. That could get the season back on track.

But I don't have much confidence that Slot is up to it.
 
Fwiw losing six out of seven doesn't hurt me that bad.

I can even take losing to Villa, Real and City. Those are difficult games.

What's pushing me over the edge is his constant excuses and throwing players under the bus.

Woland is right. There's no reason to stick with him because he just doesn't feel like a YNWA man. Amorim is infinitely more likeable than Slot.
 
MomoWASright said:
If he has no control over who gets on the pitch and the plan on what they should do on the pitch he’s in the wrong job.
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I agree, but if it is suggested that he is not allowed to drop Salah, then where does that extend to? If someone is saying 'well, you definitely can't drop Salah', surely they would also be a bit miffed if he dropped Wirtz too?

As I said, I don't think that is really true anyway, but if we then look at transfers and the suggestion he has no power on those either, then essentially he is just waiting to see who will show up to the training ground during the summer and who won't. How can that be a situation that can work well?

Again, I don't personally think that can be the case, because noone would put up with that and then still have to take the responsibility when it goes wrong, but that is what seems to be suggested.
 
Hyena said:
Fwiw losing six out of seven doesn't hurt me that bad.

I can even take losing to Villa, Real and City. Those are difficult games.

What's pushing me over the edge is his constant excuses and throwing players under the bus.

Woland is right. There's no reason to stick with him because he just doesn't feel like a YNWA man. Amorim is infinitely more likeable than Slot.
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I think that might be the most unintentionally hilarious thing written in the entire history of the internet.
 
Hyena said:
Fwiw losing six out of seven doesn't hurt me that bad.

I can even take losing to Villa, Real and City. Those are difficult games.

What's pushing me over the edge is his constant excuses and throwing players under the bus.

Woland is right. There's no reason to stick with him because he just doesn't feel like a YNWA man. Amorim is infinitely more likeable than Slot.
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Losing one game hurts me. Losing six from seven kills me. Seeing that last night with my kids broke my heart.
 
Hyena said:
Fwiw losing six out of seven doesn't hurt me that bad.

I can even take losing to Villa, Real and City. Those are difficult games.

What's pushing me over the edge is his constant excuses and throwing players under the bus.

Woland is right. There's no reason to stick with him because he just doesn't feel like a YNWA man. Amorim is infinitely more likeable than Slot.
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Losing one game hurts me. Losing six from seven kills me. Seeing that last night with my kids
 
If someone has the time i'd be curious to see how Guardiola was talking in interviews last year when they lost 4 (?) in a row in the league. Was he making shit excuses like Slot?
 
I think fans are generally pre-programmed to try and find the good in things. Yeah, many of us are moany fuckers but still, not every team can win all the time, so it's about the moments, great passages of play, individual players that excite you, the journey and above all, the escapism.

The problem I have with this current iteration of Liverpool is I can find none of those things. Maybe I'm being spoiled and it's the footballing equivalent of "first world problems" (though I do think there is gallows humour and a different kind of plot arc to occupy you when you're genuinely shit - Southampton fans from last season might disagree though). But yeah, there is no individual talent that I look forward to watching at the moment, the football is dire, it feels like we're on a journey to nowhere and I find myself looking for escapism from my escapism.

If we lose the next three games, which is more than likely, it's 1 win in 10. Genuine relegation form.

Slot and his team need to go back to basics and show everyone that there is a plan to stop the rot (though that should've already happened by now). FSG clearly banked on him being the guy given the level of investment so it's in everyone's interests that he succeeds and is given the time to fix things but if there is no change soon, I don't see any alternative.
 
Slot CANNOT be talking about depth. I'm not fucking having it. It's bullshittery of the highest order.

What was the excuse 3 games ago? Oh the oppositions style.

Amazing how he's not taken any responsibility for this. At least klopp blamed himself as well as the bullshittery
 
peterhague said:
You can't actually be serious about that statement? It's the absolute polar opposite of the truth.
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Depends on the fan. Some are overwhelmingly positive regardless, others are overwhelmingly negative regardless.
 
No. Winning the league has bought him my support until the first international break next season. He has a Jan and summer window to sort this out.
 
peterhague said:
You can't actually be serious about that statement? It's the absolute polar opposite of the truth.
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I know what you mean and I did think about that but yeah I do think it's true... it might not seem it but fans need something to hang around for and they'll tend to find it.

I remember watching a lot of City games with a mate before all the money and they were pretty shit. The games were kinda boring, the players were limited but... there were cult players, great goals to remember, the odd backs against the wall victory against Utd, ya'know...
 
Woland said:

View: https://x.com/LewisSteele_/status/1983660276584157444?t=O4nfkofr35dHUNQO5HIM0g&s=19

He said this. That's a sacking offence on its own. I'm counting down the days. He's a fucking wanker.
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He's right.

Even with what we've spent, it's true that they can make more changes than us and do have better depth beyond the fist 11.

The thing is, it's always been this way for us, under Klopp especially. We'd just get on with it and manage rotation better. Klopp would put out enough quality to make an attempt at winning the game. The bench yesterday was a disgrace. Basically he accepted the loss before KO.
 
keniget said:
I know what you mean and I did think about that but yeah I do think it's true... it might not seem it but fans need something to hang around for and they'll tend to find it.

I remember watching a lot of City games with a mate before all the money and they were pretty shit. The games were kinda boring, the players were limited but... there were cult players, great goals to remember, the odd backs against the wall victory against Utd, ya'know...
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Maybe there's some calibrating mechanism whereby small clubs fans are unreasonably positive and big club fans are unreasonably negative.

But big club fans (ie us) ARE definitely overwhelmingly negative. It was only 5 games ago that Arsenal fans were pretty much throwing the towel in on the title. After 5 games of the season!
 
peterhague said:
Congrats. The gall to mention Amorim in the next breath was also pretty spectacular. You'd have had him sacked about 35 games ago!
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When Amorim lost a stretch of games, he came out and took responsibility. He didn't blame the opposition, the ball, depth etc

I've not seen a single quote from Slot where he mans up and says sorry I got it wrong.

Slot might be smarter but Amorim handled this better.
 
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