You actually said,'The body of a welsh milkman', to be exact. I remember thinking it was very well observed at the time.
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Holloway exploits the functionality of a newspaper column to have a say, again.
Full article here: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ian-holloway-unless-liverpool-offer-16314m-for-adam-they-can-go-and-whistle-2191948.html
Full article here: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ian-holloway-unless-liverpool-offer-16314m-for-adam-they-can-go-and-whistle-2191948.html
Ferguson said: “Ollie is always bending your bloody ear on the phone. He’s never got a penny and is always pleading Âpoverty.
“You end up crying afterwards and feeling sorry for him.
“He’s always been that way, for loans and things like that.
“When I sold Craig Cathcart to Blackpool he was moaning that he couldn’t afford him and he was over-priced. Now he’s the best Âsigning he’s ever made!
“And Charlie Adam has turned out to be good business. I’ve known him since he was a boy. He always had a talent – now clubs are Âoffering four or five million.
“Of course, Ian doesn’t think that’s enough! But when he goes to get a player, it’s bloody Âdisgraceful that managers are bleeding him dry. Then somebody tries to buy his players and he Âdemands top money!
“I don’t think they will sell Adam. Ian would be silly to sell him in the position they are in. They may do in the summer – who knows? He has done well and has been a star for them.
“His passing ability and goal ratio are excellent. I think he scored 22 goals last season and eight or nine this seaso, which is a hell of a tally for a midfield player in this league.â€
“You end up crying afterwards and feeling sorry for him.
“He’s always been that way, for loans and things like that.
“When I sold Craig Cathcart to Blackpool he was moaning that he couldn’t afford him and he was over-priced. Now he’s the best Âsigning he’s ever made!
“And Charlie Adam has turned out to be good business. I’ve known him since he was a boy. He always had a talent – now clubs are Âoffering four or five million.
“Of course, Ian doesn’t think that’s enough! But when he goes to get a player, it’s bloody Âdisgraceful that managers are bleeding him dry. Then somebody tries to buy his players and he Âdemands top money!
“I don’t think they will sell Adam. Ian would be silly to sell him in the position they are in. They may do in the summer – who knows? He has done well and has been a star for them.
“His passing ability and goal ratio are excellent. I think he scored 22 goals last season and eight or nine this seaso, which is a hell of a tally for a midfield player in this league.â€
Surprised Cunty Chops took this long to get annoyed that someone else had grabbed media attention.
I believed that £5M will get us Adam.
Ian wasn't fighting Adam's corner for the relegation bonus he was due and now is trying his utmost to drive the price up by moaning like a bitch in the media like he is some type of victim. What an ass!
Did anyone think for a minute that Adam was likely to turn the King down? Ha
Ian wasn't fighting Adam's corner for the relegation bonus he was due and now is trying his utmost to drive the price up by moaning like a bitch in the media like he is some type of victim. What an ass!
Did anyone think for a minute that Adam was likely to turn the King down? Ha
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=42898.msg1259753#msg1259753 date=1295735481]
We cant have agreed a fee?
The option is at 13 million which we are free to refuse; it's unlikely he'll want to come back though since he hardly played for us but is a fucking star for Juve.
Still, if Kenny wants him there *might* be a chance.
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I don't think we are free to refuse it Avvy. Juve are, but we're bound by it.
We cant have agreed a fee?
The option is at 13 million which we are free to refuse; it's unlikely he'll want to come back though since he hardly played for us but is a fucking star for Juve.
Still, if Kenny wants him there *might* be a chance.
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I don't think we are free to refuse it Avvy. Juve are, but we're bound by it.
Though I'm not one of those who want to keep the guy (he should never have come here in the first place, and I don't believe we'll get anything like the best out of him if we haul him back now), can Juve actually force a sale? Doesn't the option kick in if we decide to sell, rather than regardless of circumstance?
Depends on the wording of the deal I guess.
Either Ross or you could be correct.
Hope we have some say in this; it's very galling to think we bought the crock, kept him for ages, hardly play him under Rafa, then Hodgson bins him off without giving him a chance either only for everyone to see what most have known all along; that he's a good player in a Liverpool squad full ofcrap.
Either Ross or you could be correct.
Hope we have some say in this; it's very galling to think we bought the crock, kept him for ages, hardly play him under Rafa, then Hodgson bins him off without giving him a chance either only for everyone to see what most have known all along; that he's a good player in a Liverpool squad full ofcrap.
Regards Holloway, you can hardly blame him for the way he tries to run things financially. They're a small club with not much money, so of course he's gonna try and get the best deals to and from the club, he's right to penny pinch.
I do think though that he's shown how small time he can be in the last few days and why he wouldn't be able to handle the pressure at a big club.
I do think though that he's shown how small time he can be in the last few days and why he wouldn't be able to handle the pressure at a big club.
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=42898.msg1259930#msg1259930 date=1295778525]
Depends on the wording of the deal I guess.
Either Ross or you could be correct.
Hope we have some say in this; it's very galling to think we bought the crock, kept him for ages, hardly play him under Rafa, then Hodgson bins him off without giving him a chance either only for everyone to see what most have known all along; that he's a good player in a Liverpool squad full ofcrap.
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All the reports of the deal stated that there's clause for Juve to buy him for 13m in the summer.
That's probably what will end up happening.
Depends on the wording of the deal I guess.
Either Ross or you could be correct.
Hope we have some say in this; it's very galling to think we bought the crock, kept him for ages, hardly play him under Rafa, then Hodgson bins him off without giving him a chance either only for everyone to see what most have known all along; that he's a good player in a Liverpool squad full ofcrap.
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All the reports of the deal stated that there's clause for Juve to buy him for 13m in the summer.
That's probably what will end up happening.
I don't blame Holloway for getting annoyed. In the week we agree a £5.8m fee for a cunt like Babel we are trying to fuck him over for his star player at £4m.
Who would you rather have?
regards
Who would you rather have?
regards
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=42898.msg1259940#msg1259940 date=1295779239]
He was 'at fault' for a goal last night, just let his man who he had 10 yards on trott past him and eventually go on to score
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Yeah I saw that, but some of his play throughout was excellent, he set up a few chances and put away the penalty, he also went close with a freekick. Everyone gives goals away with mistakes, our captain has done it enough times.
He was 'at fault' for a goal last night, just let his man who he had 10 yards on trott past him and eventually go on to score
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Yeah I saw that, but some of his play throughout was excellent, he set up a few chances and put away the penalty, he also went close with a freekick. Everyone gives goals away with mistakes, our captain has done it enough times.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42898.msg1259938#msg1259938 date=1295779151]
I don't blame Holloway for getting annoyed. In the week we agree a £5.8m fee for a cunt like Babel we are trying to fuck him over for his star player at £4m.
Who would you rather have?
regards
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Makes no scense Vlad, in the week we accepted half the price we paid for a cunt like Babel, (I don't agree he's a cunt either, just a bit thick), we offer the same as Aston Villa and one other club for his star player. Who has 18 months left on his contract.
Anyway we should offer him a loaner, say Poulsen for the rest of the season, unless we can sell him of course.
I don't blame Holloway for getting annoyed. In the week we agree a £5.8m fee for a cunt like Babel we are trying to fuck him over for his star player at £4m.
Who would you rather have?
regards
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Makes no scense Vlad, in the week we accepted half the price we paid for a cunt like Babel, (I don't agree he's a cunt either, just a bit thick), we offer the same as Aston Villa and one other club for his star player. Who has 18 months left on his contract.
Anyway we should offer him a loaner, say Poulsen for the rest of the season, unless we can sell him of course.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=42898.msg1259940#msg1259940 date=1295779239]
He was 'at fault' for a goal last night, just let his man who he had 10 yards on trott past him and eventually go on to score
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Even when the Oracle pointed that out on MOTD I was not convinced on the validity to be honest.
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He was 'at fault' for a goal last night, just let his man who he had 10 yards on trott past him and eventually go on to score
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Even when the Oracle pointed that out on MOTD I was not convinced on the validity to be honest.
regards
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42898.msg1259949#msg1259949 date=1295780071]
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
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I didn't really know what to make of Fergie's comments. I found it strange that he commented unfavourably about Holloway when he knows the main interested club is Liverpool. Also was he offering mild admiration for Adam or was there more to it?
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
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I didn't really know what to make of Fergie's comments. I found it strange that he commented unfavourably about Holloway when he knows the main interested club is Liverpool. Also was he offering mild admiration for Adam or was there more to it?
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42898.msg1259949#msg1259949 date=1295780071]
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
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Aquilani, Gerrard, Cole, Adam, Lucas, Meireles, Poulsen. A lot of competition.
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
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Aquilani, Gerrard, Cole, Adam, Lucas, Meireles, Poulsen. A lot of competition.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=42898.msg1259946#msg1259946 date=1295779729]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42898.msg1259938#msg1259938 date=1295779151]
I don't blame Holloway for getting annoyed. In the week we agree a £5.8m fee for a cunt like Babel we are trying to fuck him over for his star player at £4m.
Who would you rather have?
regards
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Makes no scense Vlad, in the week we accepted half the price we paid for a cunt like Babel, (I don't agree he's a cunt either, just a bit thick), we offer the same as Aston Villa and one other club for his star player. Who has 18 months left on his contract.
Anyway we should offer him a loaner, say Poulsen for the rest of the season, unless we can sell him of course.
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It makes perfect sense to me Asbo , Babel has the same 18 months left on his contract, and it seems to me he is half the player Adam is, and the fees being banded about don't reflect that.
In fact if someone came to us and offered us £4m for Lucas (I know that is too bizarre) half the people on here would choke at the idea, so why do we think it's OK to go round trying to fuck clubs , and decent mangers like Holloway.
We were not exactly over the moon when Barca did it to us, the fact is Adam is a decent player and if we get him for under £8m we will have done good business.
regards
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42898.msg1259938#msg1259938 date=1295779151]
I don't blame Holloway for getting annoyed. In the week we agree a £5.8m fee for a cunt like Babel we are trying to fuck him over for his star player at £4m.
Who would you rather have?
regards
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Makes no scense Vlad, in the week we accepted half the price we paid for a cunt like Babel, (I don't agree he's a cunt either, just a bit thick), we offer the same as Aston Villa and one other club for his star player. Who has 18 months left on his contract.
Anyway we should offer him a loaner, say Poulsen for the rest of the season, unless we can sell him of course.
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It makes perfect sense to me Asbo , Babel has the same 18 months left on his contract, and it seems to me he is half the player Adam is, and the fees being banded about don't reflect that.
In fact if someone came to us and offered us £4m for Lucas (I know that is too bizarre) half the people on here would choke at the idea, so why do we think it's OK to go round trying to fuck clubs , and decent mangers like Holloway.
We were not exactly over the moon when Barca did it to us, the fact is Adam is a decent player and if we get him for under £8m we will have done good business.
regards
regards
[quote author=Modo link=topic=42898.msg1259951#msg1259951 date=1295780292]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42898.msg1259949#msg1259949 date=1295780071]
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
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Aquilani, Gerrard,Cole, Adam, Lucas, Meireles, Poulsen. A lot of competition.
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Not sure about that, I would be putting Shelvey into the mix before most of them
regards
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42898.msg1259949#msg1259949 date=1295780071]
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
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Aquilani, Gerrard,
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Not sure about that, I would be putting Shelvey into the mix before most of them
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Anyway there is no way on this earth that Aquilani will be pulling a Liverpool shirt on gain, unfortunately.
regards
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=42898.msg1259954#msg1259954 date=1295780645]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=42898.msg1259951#msg1259951 date=1295780292]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42898.msg1259949#msg1259949 date=1295780071]
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
[/quote]
Aquilani, Gerrard,Cole, Adam, Lucas, Meireles, Poulsen. A lot of competition.
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Not sure about that, I would be putting Shelvey into the mix before most of them
regards
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Oh yeah forgot.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=42898.msg1259951#msg1259951 date=1295780292]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42898.msg1259949#msg1259949 date=1295780071]
I think that we'll get Adam for less than £7.5 and price will depend on his desire to join us. If he puts in a transfer request then its a game changer. £5M for a player with 18 months is not unreasonable despite Holloway's rant. Fergie's comments on Holloway are quite telling.
As for Aquilani, he'd be a star in our team playing pass and move.
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Aquilani, Gerrard,
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Not sure about that, I would be putting Shelvey into the mix before most of them
regards
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Oh yeah forgot.
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=42898.msg1259964#msg1259964 date=1295781133]
Poulsen and Spearing (possibly Lucas and Aquilani too) will be shipped and Cole isn't a CM.
Meireles, Jonjo, Gerrard and Adam are good 4 to have as CM options. Jonjo will continue to grow into the role.
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I was thinking AM.
Poulsen and Spearing (possibly Lucas and Aquilani too) will be shipped and Cole isn't a CM.
Meireles, Jonjo, Gerrard and Adam are good 4 to have as CM options. Jonjo will continue to grow into the role.
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I was thinking AM.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=42898.msg1259957#msg1259957 date=1295780772]
I think we could get him for 5 to the club, and pay him his bonus he would lose out on, so 6 overall (if thats legal).
we should help him out with a loaner for the remainder of the season, any of the fringe players ie Spearing or Poulsen, to soften the blow.
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Fucking hell Asbo, what has Holloway done to you?
Spearing is one thing, but do you think any self respecting PL manager would want Poulsen, the same Poulsen that put one successful tackle in against Blackpool, ironically.
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I think we could get him for 5 to the club, and pay him his bonus he would lose out on, so 6 overall (if thats legal).
we should help him out with a loaner for the remainder of the season, any of the fringe players ie Spearing or Poulsen, to soften the blow.
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Fucking hell Asbo, what has Holloway done to you?
Spearing is one thing, but do you think any self respecting PL manager would want Poulsen, the same Poulsen that put one successful tackle in against Blackpool, ironically.
regards
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