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Harold Steptoe soundalike and husband of a scouser in bid to debunk the entire classical tradition of rhetoric and insult, yet again, a whole city shocka!



Roy Hodgson has risked upsetting Merseyside by making an ill-judged comment about Wayne Rooney’s Scouse accent.

The England manager, no stranger to controversial remarks, suggested that Rooney would not be able to stand up and lecture a room full of people because of his ‘Liverpool accent’.

When asked what Rooney was like as an orator, Hodgson said: ‘Oratory is a much over-exaggerated quality. There are some people I think are very eloquent who don’t get messages across well and others who I don’t think you would regard as orators who get their message across very well.

‘Everyone knows Wayne is not the sort of person, with his Liverpool accent, who is going to be able to stand up in front of a lecture room of people.

'But he doesn’t need to. All he has to do is make certain the players he is talking to understand where he is coming from.’

The England manager’s most famous gaffe came in the ‘feed the monkey’ racism row when, at half-time of a World Cup qualifier against Poland, Hodgson urged Chris Smalling to pass to Andros Townsend, saying: ‘It’s like the old Nasa joke — feed the monkey’.

He also upset the mayor of Manaus on the eve of the World Cup draw when saying the Brazilian city was ‘the venue to be avoided’.

And in 2012 he apologised after letting slip to a passenger on the tube that he had left Rio Ferdinand out of his next England squad.
 
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It's hard to believe Hodgson's pals in the media still spin the line about him being cultured and intelligent.
 
The article misses the best bit. He actually said this.

"The great thing with Wayne, as it was with Steven, is the passion that they have for football, for their country and for their clubs.

"They can transmit that passion to a lot of those younger players. They can get their points across. They won't do it maybe quite as eloquently as someone like myself could, but that doesn't matter."

Quite as eloquently as someone like myself could. He actually fucking said that.
 
The article misses the best bit. He actually said this.

"The great thing with Wayne, as it was with Steven, is the passion that they have for football, for their country and for their clubs.

"They can transmit that passion to a lot of those younger players. They can get their points across. They won't do it maybe quite as eloquently as someone like myself could, but that doesn't matter."

Quite as eloquently as someone like myself could. He actually fucking said that.


But he IS a master of whetoric.
 
How in the world did he ever get to manage us again ?

Please, someone help me rationalise this. I don't think any amount of common sense can ever explain that calamity.
 
How in the world did he ever get to manage us again ?

Please, someone help me rationalise this. I don't think any amount of common sense can ever explain that calamity.

There was naff all choice at the time, plus (having only just escaped from the clutches of the two cowboys) we weren't the most enticing proposition at that stage anyway, so weren't going to tempt anybody decent away from an existing job. Whatever our current ups and downs, we've come a sod of a long way since then.
 
There was naff all choice at the time, plus (having only just escaped from the clutches of the two cowboys) we weren't the most enticing proposition at that stage anyway, so weren't going to tempt anybody decent away from an existing job. Whatever our current ups and downs, we've come a sod of a long way since then.

Apart from Pellegrino you mean who expressed interest in the job.
And Kenny.
 
Not entirely, count. I'd have taken Kenny but only to tide us over till a permanent appointment was made, plus I wasn't convinced (and I'm still not) about Pellegrini. Hodgson was all that was left at the time.
 
It's like he's vaguely overheard an intelligent person speaking, and tries to copy them, in spite of the fact that he's an idiot. So he says these stupid things in a manner that suggests he's saying something very wise. I was listening to him today. He said, 'I'm not going to say that ridiculous cliche about scoring one goal more than the opposition being enough to win a game'. It's hard to figure out what he THINKS is clever about what he says. Yes, I guess that remark IS a cliche, but what's 'ridiculous' about it? He's a really odd bloke, old Roy.
 
In fairness to him he said he's not going to underestimate San Marino, a team bottom of FIFA rankings with one win ever in their entire history. Presumably he feels England will need to score two goals more than them to win.
 
In fairness to him he said he's not going to underestimate San Marino, a team bottom of FIFA rankings with one win ever in their entire history. Presumably he feels England will need to score two goals more than them to win.

He realises that they're a tough test for his England team.
 
It's like he's vaguely overheard an intelligent person speaking, and tries to copy them, in spite of the fact that he's an idiot. So he says these stupid things in a manner that suggests he's saying something very wise. I was listening to him today. He said, 'I'm not going to say that ridiculous cliche about scoring one goal more than the opposition being enough to win a game'. It's hard to figure out what he THINKS is clever about what he says. Yes, I guess that remark IS a cliche, but what's 'ridiculous' about it? He's a really odd bloke, old Roy.

He's like an actor who's learned his lines but doesn't understand them, so can't deliver them at all convincingly.

Actually, never mind "like", that's pretty much what he is.
 
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