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I know some people who would gladly do it for free.
It's plausible that cicewo didn't know what utopia meant.
He really cynically stuck the knife into a kid presumably to score a point back against a club that had dared to complain about Sturridge. He's such a cowardly old creep.
Here's a rare article that gets it right about him:
Here's a rare article that gets it right about him:
Just 24 hours after claiming ‘it’s a question about man-management’ in relation to ensuring Raheem Sterling doesn’t suffer from burnout, Roy Hodgson publicly claimed the talented 19-year-old had complained to him of feeling tired in training.
As far as poor management goes, and Hodgson has plenty on his track record, this was about the worst kind.
Hodgson told ITV pre-match, before England’s 1-0 win over 10-man Estonia, ‘Yesterday we trained but Raheem was complaining a little about being tired and was not at his best.’
Former England forward Ian Wright, a panelist on ITV looked bemused by Hodgson’s claim that a player would complain of feeling tired. Wright said he had never seen or heard of that happening before.
So was Hodgson fibbing? Either way, to say it publicly was terrible man management, opening Sterling up for criticism. Surely it’s the manager’s job to protect the player and not hang them out to dry in such a manner.
Why did Hodgson not act like a manager, a leader, and say it was simply a decision he made as manager?
Sterling came on, and won the free-kick for the winning goal. (Photo: Getty Images)
Instead, social media was full of England fans, and some so-called pundits criticising Sterling.
This despite the frequency with which we read in the press about protecting talented young players from burnout. As soon as one needs to be rested, those same people are then critical. It shows the hypocrisy of a large amount of England fans and media.
It was a cowardly thing for Hodgson to do. He should have protected the teenager, instead he hung him out.
How can a player, any player not just Sterling, trust a manager who is prepared to make such public statements?
This is, of course, the same manager who admitted he played Daniel Sturridge when the forward wasn’t fully fit to quote ‘test his resolve’ last year. Then last month forced Sturridge to take part in a full 11 vs 11 training match despite advice from the player and his club that he needed extra recovery time after games.
Hodgson’s ineptitude shows no bounds and this is just another case of showing how out of touch he is as a modern football manager, let alone the national team’s boss.
Got a link to the article? It's pretty spot on as you say.
Danny Higgenbottom and Stan Collymore, both fine example teenage prodigies who went on to have long and distinguished careers and club and country levels so Raheem really should listen.
It's in the Metro, mate,
http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/12/engla...xposed-by-raheem-sterling-situation-4903172/?
Hodgson is a snide. Does anything to immunise himself from criticism.
He even denied that he was about to sub Rooney despite them having seen the card for the 4th official.
I didn't even realise both England games were even on until my missus told me. That's the Hodgson Effect.
He even denied that he was about to sub Rooney despite them having seen the card for the 4th official.
I didn't even realise both England games were even on until my missus told me. That's the Hodgson Effect.
Roy Hodgson is a fucking cunt.
It also highlights the utter nonsense that is football in the media. Everyone has to have an opinion. And then these opinions get reported. Who gives a rancid fuck what Danny Mills' thoughts are on this or any subject? If I was really interested in what Danny Higginbotham has to say about Raheem Sterling I'm sure I could trawl through twitter to delve into the complex treasure trove of his thought process before gouging my eyes out with a rusty teaspoon. But not only does the internet afford these wankers a voice, other media sources then re-print these banal, worthless opinions ad infinitum so there's no way of avoiding them.
It also highlights the utter nonsense that is football in the media. Everyone has to have an opinion. And then these opinions get reported. Who gives a rancid fuck what Danny Mills' thoughts are on this or any subject? If I was really interested in what Danny Higginbotham has to say about Raheem Sterling I'm sure I could trawl through twitter to delve into the complex treasure trove of his thought process before gouging my eyes out with a rusty teaspoon. But not only does the internet afford these wankers a voice, other media sources then re-print these banal, worthless opinions ad infinitum so there's no way of avoiding them.
For the first time in my life I didnt watch the last two England games and I wont be watching again until Roy is no longer in charge.
I have no interest in supporting a team led by this man and the FA.
As I said I know whats going to happen, we will walk this group and then get humbled by any decent side we face.
Wayne Rooney as captain?
Roy as manager?
Nah not for me.
I have no interest in supporting a team led by this man and the FA.
As I said I know whats going to happen, we will walk this group and then get humbled by any decent side we face.
Wayne Rooney as captain?
Roy as manager?
Nah not for me.
Yeah i'm with you. There are literally so many better things to do with my time. I wasn't even arsed about the WC cos I knew we'd be pathetic
Roy Hodgson has come under fire for making public Raheem Sterling's admission that he was feeling tired ahead of England's Euro 2016 qualifier with Estonia.
The Liverpool star told the England manager that he was too fatigued to start the match in Tallinn after shouldering a heavy burden this season for both club and country.
Hodgson then made Sterling's comments public ahead of the match, which England won 1-0 thanks to Wayne Rooney's second-half free-kick.
Sterling was replaced by his Liverpool teammate Adam Lallana in the starting line-up but came on as a second-half substitute.
Sky Sports pundits and former Liverpool players Jamie Redknapp and Jamie Carragher both criticised Hodgson for not keeping their conversation private.
Redknapp said: 'I would never have dreamed of saying that [I'm too tired] to an England manager, but then I picked up a lot of injuries.
'I'm sure Brendan Rodgers would have been leaning on him, [saying] you need a break and this is an opportunity to get one.
'Why on earth did Hodgson say it though? Honesty is not the best policy. Why has Roy got into this? He could have said 'I want to freshen this up.' This wouldn't even be a conversation'.
Carragher agreed that discretion would have been a better idea: 'Me as a player, I would never give a manager a chance to leave me out.
'But keep it between yourselves, just come out and say Lallana played well last game and say Raheem needs a rest. But now we are having a debate on it.
'Hodgson could have been more careful, but I don't think Rodgers would have been involved.'
Sterling, 19, came off the bench to win the 74th-minute free-kick that led to England skipper Rooney curled in for his 43rd international goal.
Hodgson said after the game: 'People don't like it when you simplistically tell the truth. We were training at The Grove doing a light session but some work in how we wanted to play the game tactically.
'People don't like it when you simplistically tell the truth'. I doubt this supposedly well-read buffoon has even read Janet and John books, he speaks like he's a bloody Martian.
The Liverpool star told the England manager that he was too fatigued to start the match in Tallinn after shouldering a heavy burden this season for both club and country.
Hodgson then made Sterling's comments public ahead of the match, which England won 1-0 thanks to Wayne Rooney's second-half free-kick.
Sterling was replaced by his Liverpool teammate Adam Lallana in the starting line-up but came on as a second-half substitute.
Sky Sports pundits and former Liverpool players Jamie Redknapp and Jamie Carragher both criticised Hodgson for not keeping their conversation private.
Redknapp said: 'I would never have dreamed of saying that [I'm too tired] to an England manager, but then I picked up a lot of injuries.
'I'm sure Brendan Rodgers would have been leaning on him, [saying] you need a break and this is an opportunity to get one.
'Why on earth did Hodgson say it though? Honesty is not the best policy. Why has Roy got into this? He could have said 'I want to freshen this up.' This wouldn't even be a conversation'.
Carragher agreed that discretion would have been a better idea: 'Me as a player, I would never give a manager a chance to leave me out.
'But keep it between yourselves, just come out and say Lallana played well last game and say Raheem needs a rest. But now we are having a debate on it.
'Hodgson could have been more careful, but I don't think Rodgers would have been involved.'
Sterling, 19, came off the bench to win the 74th-minute free-kick that led to England skipper Rooney curled in for his 43rd international goal.
Hodgson said after the game: 'People don't like it when you simplistically tell the truth. We were training at The Grove doing a light session but some work in how we wanted to play the game tactically.
'People don't like it when you simplistically tell the truth'. I doubt this supposedly well-read buffoon has even read Janet and John books, he speaks like he's a bloody Martian.
He is literally the epitome of everything wrong with English football
This is where I am at, it's so frustrating though as there is a lot of good young players in this England team, but he and Greg Dyke are single handedly fucking it up for us.
What's bugging me is the idiots on social media giving him abuse for saying he was tired? "How can he be tired, I'd like to see him work 50 hours a week and play two matches at the weekend". It's a bit different, his every touch, pass, shot and run is analyzed and monitored by the general public and media. I'm sure the pressure and stress of carrying club and country is what is inducing a fatigued state.
Did Sterling say he didn't want to play?
He is 19 and expressed after a training session that he was a bit tired. His manager threw him under the bus by telling the media what was said by a player to his manager probably in confidence. Now his manager feels the need to 'protect' him. Oh does he? Bit late after feeding him to the Wolves. Owen, Fowler and Rooney played way too much in the early stages of their career. Rooney doesn't look half the player he was and the other two suffered from a plethora of injuries.
Roy had a choice, either play Sterling or don't play him. Let it be a managerial decision. He could play the Ox who is a similar player. Don't blame the player for not starting him.
Did Sterling say he didn't want to play?
He is 19 and expressed after a training session that he was a bit tired. His manager threw him under the bus by telling the media what was said by a player to his manager probably in confidence. Now his manager feels the need to 'protect' him. Oh does he? Bit late after feeding him to the Wolves. Owen, Fowler and Rooney played way too much in the early stages of their career. Rooney doesn't look half the player he was and the other two suffered from a plethora of injuries.
Roy had a choice, either play Sterling or don't play him. Let it be a managerial decision. He could play the Ox who is a similar player. Don't blame the player for not starting him.
Typical of Collymore to claim he shouldn't be tired because 'it's only October'. (Good job Sterling doesn't get depressed, eh, Stan, otherwise you might seem insensitive.) No doubt Stan wouldn't have been tired, because, prior to an October, he didn't have to play in a World Cup, and before that a long gruelling season (without regularly missing training to have tea with his mum), and before that endless under21 games. Sterling hasn't really had a break for about two years. And only now is he feeling the strain. And twats like Collymore are slating him for it. Pathetic.
I wish I could like this twice. It's becoming such a chore to talk about Hodgeson. I live outside of England, and find myself laying the ground work for Hodgeson's mistakes now.
Yeah, I'm jumping aboard too.
Living in Australia the last 17 years I've always made sure I've supported England but it is getting embarrassing now. Roy fucking Hodgson is haunting my life. First club, then country. I have no doubt he will eventually open the batting for England and become the drummer for the Dap Kings.
Living in Australia the last 17 years I've always made sure I've supported England but it is getting embarrassing now. Roy fucking Hodgson is haunting my life. First club, then country. I have no doubt he will eventually open the batting for England and become the drummer for the Dap Kings.
I'd like to think Rodgers tore Hodgson a new one after the Sturridge fiasco and this is the old git's pathetic hissy fit of a response. Regrettably I suspect it's more likely to be down simply to Hodgson's abject incompetence, the verbal equivalent of that industrial-strength face-rubbing we saw from him when he was still LFC manager [shudders] and it was all going belly up around him.
I could write a long diatribe about him, but he's not worth the effort. I'll just stick to the facts.
He's a backward-thinking coward and an absolute fucking cunt.
He's a backward-thinking coward and an absolute fucking cunt.
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