That’s disrespectful.
Post Match CL Atletico Madrid (H) 3-2 17th Sept 20:00
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I think he should have tried to finish that one on one himself.
Fucking hell this team gives your heart a hard time.
Definitely the best we’ve played and we threatened to run away with it.
Wirtz is definitely improving but fuck me tonight was made for him and still no goals and assists and again off the pitch for the winner.
Isak improved after finding his feet.
Salah with a goal and assist and should have had more.
That goal was vintage Salah, fucking love to see it. He was pissed Gravy knocked him off the hoarding 🤣🤣.
Speaking of which Gravy put in his best display in 8 months. He monstered them.
Fantastic to see all the subs and amount of freshness and energy they bring without a drop in quality.
I felt Hugo was unlucky with his miss at the end.
Finally absolutely delighted for Robbo, so many wrote him off, he’s responded amazingly to Kerkez coming in and has gotten his reward. Love seeing him score even if it was a complete fluke.
Up the fucking reds. 5/5.
Definitely the best we’ve played and we threatened to run away with it.
Wirtz is definitely improving but fuck me tonight was made for him and still no goals and assists and again off the pitch for the winner.
Isak improved after finding his feet.
Salah with a goal and assist and should have had more.
That goal was vintage Salah, fucking love to see it. He was pissed Gravy knocked him off the hoarding 🤣🤣.
Speaking of which Gravy put in his best display in 8 months. He monstered them.
Fantastic to see all the subs and amount of freshness and energy they bring without a drop in quality.
I felt Hugo was unlucky with his miss at the end.
Finally absolutely delighted for Robbo, so many wrote him off, he’s responded amazingly to Kerkez coming in and has gotten his reward. Love seeing him score even if it was a complete fluke.
Up the fucking reds. 5/5.
Basketball sucks, highlights are all you need if you remained vested. Those live games and their timeouts, snorefest, *off telly*.
You can and you can't. 5 games in and zero goals and assists. He needs to fix that, and there's only so much you can put on other players too, especially when they're actually scoring otherwise.
He needs a bit of luck and things to go his way, as we can see there's something, nearly, there.
His passing is so fucking sloppy it's unreal. I thought he was meant to be a technical marvel? It's weird.
Wirtz will do just fine. Anyone can see he is a good player. He just needs to get used to the speed and the physicality and he will be ace. I have no doubt he will get it at some point.
I have no clue why everyone is being so harsh with him. Mbappe was shit in his first season with Real as well. Wirtz is doing alot better by comparison.
I have no clue why everyone is being so harsh with him. Mbappe was shit in his first season with Real as well. Wirtz is doing alot better by comparison.
it’s much easier to look that way in Germany.
He’s definitely struggling with the pace.
But it's sloppy even when he's under no pressure.
Didn't Mbappe score about 30 goals last season??
The spaces are tigher, you just don’t get as much room to pass the ball into.
It’s also clearly in his head now. He needs to relax and just enjoy his football. He’s clearly not. Mo needs to teach him to smile.
Yeah I think it's confidence rather than the environment. A couple of times in the second half he basically ducked taking shots on. Needs a bit of luck desperately.
Benitez going into minute detail about a positional issue that he spotted in the 71st minute of the Burnley game.
Slot: "Yeah, I'd really love to talk Rafa, but I'm busy now. Er, email me, yeah. What's my email? I'm sure you'll find it"
We really need someone in the middle to step up and show some proper leadership and game management. It's been said time and time again, but there's just not enough rollickings being handed out for being careless in possession or being lazy off the ball. Either that or the players just need to find ways to be focused for longer stretches in the game.
Anyway, here's a new evolution of the monster that is Ryan Gravenberch
View: https://x.com/22Hater_/status/1968433735524642866?t=nNHwDpYAXE9VGR44lL21MA&s=19
Anyway, here's a new evolution of the monster that is Ryan Gravenberch
View: https://x.com/22Hater_/status/1968433735524642866?t=nNHwDpYAXE9VGR44lL21MA&s=19
I want to talk about how we gave up a 2-0 defeat, but they were two daft goals, the first one should have been offside. The second one a deflection. You could argue we let them waltz through us at times, but still, unlucky goals to concede.
Yes, please a normal win soon please. It's like Kloppo's 23-24 season with all the last minute comebacks. Remember? I'm just realizing we were here recently.
Yes, please a normal win soon please. It's like Kloppo's 23-24 season with all the last minute comebacks. Remember? I'm just realizing we were here recently.
Lay off the pigs in blanket in December.
I like the Frim and I thought he played well tonight but missing his kick after Wirtz took the keeper out the game made me LOL.
Just imagine we’d decided not to “overpay” and he went to City instead. That was such a sliding door transfer.
Let’s hope the likes of Isak and Wirtz will be thought of similarly in time.
And the first six
Can you imagine if you let a player like gravenberch go, didn't really try using him much and now you get to watch him do that in the champions league?
There are parallel universe versions of us that had to watch the Sako and Lovren partnership for additional seasons. Poor parallel bastards
Having been totally conditioned by the end of the Arsenal game, I'm like this now when we're not winning after 79 minutes:
Some observations:
- Isak’s movement without the ball is far more sophisticated than Ekitike’s. Hugo is mostly asking for the ball to feet and then trying to do something with it; Alex is looking for spaces and moments and letting his teammates and the ball find him. He is also forcing Gakpo to vary his game by purposefully drifting into his space, so that Gakpo has to play through the middle at times, occupying positions he hasn’t seen much since Klopp. Early signs are just as I hoped - Isak will be a catalyst for our attack who will tie all the different elements together.
- For the first time I’m starting to see the contours of Slot’s plan for Wirtz. Slot always favoured a 4-man press up front (unlike Klopp’s clear 3 + 3 structure), so without the ball Wirtz is definitely a part of the front 4, which is expected. But in possession it is starting to look like the German is a part of a midfield triangle rather than an untethered free #10. Whenever Wirtz shifted to the right flank, one of Szobo or Gravenberch shifted to the corresponding position on the left and vice versa. They are starting to work as a midfield unit and that looks a lot more cohesive. It’s also worth mentioning that Szobo played a more disciplined defensive midfield role for large parts of the game, which allowed Gravenberch to express himself.
- Gravenberch is just a monster. Wow. Again, I have to mention the contract - the sooner we tie him up the better, because the thought of Real Madrid or Barca potentially getting him on a free in a few years makes me sick to my stomach. Now that Wirtz is showing the signs of integration into the midfield 3, it looks like we have a situation of 2 near certain starters (Gravenberch and Wirtz) and the 3rd spot being up for grabs between Szobo, Alexis and Jones. Slot’s challenge will be to construct a Gravenberch-less midfield in certain games when he needs to be rested.
- The left flank looks so much more flowing and natural with Robbo in there. Kerkez has time on his side, but for now there is absolutely no reason not to play Robbo for as long as he can manage. On the opposite side I think there is lots of work to be done with both Frimpong and Bradley - both are looking decent enough, but there is so much more to come.
- Respect to Atletico players who stuck to their tasks despite a nightmare start and did not let the Anfield atmosphere affect them. That was a quality away performance. That being said, there was nothing lucky about our win, despite leaving it late - we dominated for big periods of the game, created a lot more chances than the opponent and fully deserved the win. This was the first game of the season where our football was genuinely enjoyable to watch.
- Isak’s movement without the ball is far more sophisticated than Ekitike’s. Hugo is mostly asking for the ball to feet and then trying to do something with it; Alex is looking for spaces and moments and letting his teammates and the ball find him. He is also forcing Gakpo to vary his game by purposefully drifting into his space, so that Gakpo has to play through the middle at times, occupying positions he hasn’t seen much since Klopp. Early signs are just as I hoped - Isak will be a catalyst for our attack who will tie all the different elements together.
- For the first time I’m starting to see the contours of Slot’s plan for Wirtz. Slot always favoured a 4-man press up front (unlike Klopp’s clear 3 + 3 structure), so without the ball Wirtz is definitely a part of the front 4, which is expected. But in possession it is starting to look like the German is a part of a midfield triangle rather than an untethered free #10. Whenever Wirtz shifted to the right flank, one of Szobo or Gravenberch shifted to the corresponding position on the left and vice versa. They are starting to work as a midfield unit and that looks a lot more cohesive. It’s also worth mentioning that Szobo played a more disciplined defensive midfield role for large parts of the game, which allowed Gravenberch to express himself.
- Gravenberch is just a monster. Wow. Again, I have to mention the contract - the sooner we tie him up the better, because the thought of Real Madrid or Barca potentially getting him on a free in a few years makes me sick to my stomach. Now that Wirtz is showing the signs of integration into the midfield 3, it looks like we have a situation of 2 near certain starters (Gravenberch and Wirtz) and the 3rd spot being up for grabs between Szobo, Alexis and Jones. Slot’s challenge will be to construct a Gravenberch-less midfield in certain games when he needs to be rested.
- The left flank looks so much more flowing and natural with Robbo in there. Kerkez has time on his side, but for now there is absolutely no reason not to play Robbo for as long as he can manage. On the opposite side I think there is lots of work to be done with both Frimpong and Bradley - both are looking decent enough, but there is so much more to come.
- Respect to Atletico players who stuck to their tasks despite a nightmare start and did not let the Anfield atmosphere affect them. That was a quality away performance. That being said, there was nothing lucky about our win, despite leaving it late - we dominated for big periods of the game, created a lot more chances than the opponent and fully deserved the win. This was the first game of the season where our football was genuinely enjoyable to watch.
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