Post Match EPL Man U (H) 1-2 Sunday 4:30pm Oct 19th

[keniget]

I don't think there is any point going all in on Salah. Yes, he's been shit, but his past record and status in the team means he doesn't get dropped. It's not some black mark against Slot - I doubt very many, if any, managers would drop him either. Not quickly anyway.

The whole Chiesa thing kinda makes me laugh as well - if he's the answer to all our woes, we really are fucked.

We tried to do too much in the summer and the foundation upon which we tried to do it was kinda unstable and has become even more so. It wouldn't have bad if we'd have bought players that we could slot straight into the team but we didn't - we bought hugely expensive system players (bar a couple) that don't fit our system. That's why it looks like there isn't an obvious fix.

The only player that looks good is the one player that isn't system bound - Ekitike.

It's going to be a long season.

 

[mark1975]

Everyone knows that if we play Ekitike and Chiesa we have a fighting chance, because both are mega sharp right now and will win the ball back and will make things happen. Salah, Isak and Gakpo is just too stagnant and predictable - and Cody was very good yesterday, but he hasn't been for the rest of the season. The front three should be Ekitike, Isak and Chiesa.

 

[mark1975]

I don't think there is any point going all in on Salah. Yes, he's been shit, but his past record and status in the team means he doesn't get dropped. It's not some black mark against Slot - I doubt very many, if any, managers would drop him either. Not quickly anyway.

The whole Chiesa thing kinda makes me laugh as well - if he's the answer to all our woes, we really are fucked.

We tried to do too much in the summer and the foundation upon which we tried to do it was kinda unstable and has become even more so. It wouldn't have bad if we'd have bought players that we could slot straight into the team but we didn't - we bought hugely expensive system players (bar a couple) that don't fit our system. That's why it looks like there isn't an obvious fix.

The only player that looks good is the one player that isn't system bound - Ekitike.

It's going to be a long season.

He might not be "the answer", whatever that is, but he's playing better than anyone up front and has scored crucial goals, he was the only one putting up a fight yesterday too. He's a good player, we can't just judge him on his injury and his fee forever, we took a gamble on whether he would ever get back to anything close to the player he was, now he's starting to resemble that player we're hiding behind some shitty status thing associated with all of the above, when really on form, he should be playing. We're not "really fucked" if we're relying on him, we're in the fortunate situation that he has "come good" and we're not capatalising on it, which is fucking criminal.

 

[keniget]

He might not be "the answer", whatever that is, but he's playing better than anyone up front and has scored crucial goals, he was the only one putting up a fight yesterday too. He's a good player, we can't just judge him on his injury and his fee, we took a gamble on whether he would ever get back to anything close to the player he was, now he's starting to resemble that player we're hiding behind some shitty status thing associated with all of the above, when really on form, he should be playing. We're not "really fucked" if we're relying on him, we're in the fortunate situation that he has "come good" and we're not capatalising on it, which is fucking criminal.

Ekitike should be one of the first names on team sheet right now because he's mobile, hungry and at least in spells looks like he can make things happen.

I'm being a bit mean about Chiesa, yeah, but largely as a counterbalance to some of the hyperbole around his situation. Chiesa has made some decisive contributions at the end of games (though some of the general play has left me questioning whether he'd be a huge upgrade from the start) and would be more than happy for him to get some proper game time to prove himself, which will hopefully be Gala.

 

[PrettyBoy]

You know what

As annoyed as I am, what can slot do? he was bold and went all out which I rate

Respectfully Salah needs to be dropped, but dont even know who can play there?

Kerkez is just a very bad player who offers nothing

We will come good, I can see it, I think we might go on an 8 win streak from now

 

[Modo]

I don't think there is any point going all in on Salah. Yes, he's been shit, but his past record and status in the team means he doesn't get dropped. It's not some black mark against Slot - I doubt very many, if any, managers would drop him either. Not quickly anyway.

The whole Chiesa thing kinda makes me laugh as well - if he's the answer to all our woes, we really are fucked.

We tried to do too much in the summer and the foundation upon which we tried to do it was kinda unstable and has become even more so. It wouldn't have bad if we'd have bought players that we could slot straight into the team but we didn't - we bought hugely expensive system players (bar a couple) that don't fit our system. That's why it looks like there isn't an obvious fix.

The only player that looks good is the one player that isn't system bound - Ekitike.

It's going to be a long season.

So since playing Chiesa in your opinion is laughable, your solution is more Salah?
That makes a lot of sense.

I think Chiesa assisted our central strikers more in one game than Salah has done all season.

 

[Best Believe It]

So since playing Chiesa in your opinion laughable, your solution is more Salah?
That makes a lot of sense.

I think Chiesa assisted our central strikers more in one game than Salah has done all season.

He's also pressing, which Salah isn't. He and Ekitike are the only forwards who are pressing at the moment. Can't remember whether Rio did.

 

[Farkmaster]

I hate the system player thing. Every player is a system player, but some players are more versatile than others, and some players have characteristics that make them more of a pain in the ass and helpful and do something even when shit is hitting the fan. We've not got many of those and we sold our best one. Diaz wasn't great at interplay, but he would do something if you gave him the ball without much on. I don't mean he'd score a goal, he would just get you up the pitch.

Salah has become a system player by that definition, and one who we have to really account for off the ball, like he's the one player on the team sheet that impacts all others the most, and should lock you out of making certain decisions that compound the weaknesses he imposes.

I think the only player we bought who is inarguably totally Ill fitted to the team is frimpong, but every single player we have makes more sense if Salah isn't playing, and frimpong was brought in, to my mind with a view to when Salah isn't playing, which we shouldn't be waiting for. Salah has been shit for half a year now. We are long past the "not quicky" phase. Will frimpong be great in that role? Probably not, he's not a great crosser, but he is fast, so he will be more effective than Salah if we start to simplify things.

I'd love it if I could discern that we were playing a system and that they didn't fit. There were times in that first half where our cb was on the ball, our fullbacks were back, then there was gravy in a three man triangle of united players, and there was no other Liverpool player within 50 square yards, then there were all of our attackers, in a line. If our players aren't suited to whatever that system is, that's great news because that is barely understandable to my brain as football.

 

[Modo]

I wish there was a compilation of every floated cross from Gakpo over Isak/Ekitike towards the far post where Salah is. You know the guy with a great right foot and Bierhoff-esque heading abilities.