Shut up Momo.
Pre Match EPL Sunderland (A) - Wednesday February 12th 20:15
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Shut up Momo.
Yep, he definitely rotated more.
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Happens to the best of them.
Decent start now. Hopefully someone else isn't going to be getting a haircut now.
to be fair to slot he’s right in that chiesa has been improving loads this season by not playing
but it’s also because our wide players have been shite
i don’t however think he’s right about ramsay, fullback is one of the few positions i think you can give a player a chance. he doesn’t need to be cafu to give us a solid 60 or 90 against sunderland or any other side and rest some midfield legs.
but it’s also because our wide players have been shite
i don’t however think he’s right about ramsay, fullback is one of the few positions i think you can give a player a chance. he doesn’t need to be cafu to give us a solid 60 or 90 against sunderland or any other side and rest some midfield legs.
Again, the problem is that Slot doesn't keep the squad players match fit because he never gives them any time.
There was a point during this season where it looked like Chiesa was in shape. I think it was around the Southampton game when he got two assists. What happened then?
Benched.
5-10 minute cameo appearances.
haha we’re all going to be fucking furious tomorrow night
I won’t be. I haven’t been for a while. What’s the point?
As soon as we got to Xmas with no news and Xabi available most of us knew that was it for the season. Maybe FSG have a plan for the summer, maybe they don’t but not much point getting overly excited about something that ain’t going to change until July ofif at all
Dead cat bounce.
And maybe I’m reading too much into it, but it does come across as a slightly sarcastic dig at Klopp — indirectly referencing Klopp’s 22/23 league finish (which I think he will have difficulty matching this season - we need 28 out of 39 points to equal that season's 67 points), which led to no Champions League football in 23/24 (and/or using it as a defence for himself, should we not qualify for CL).
He only finished with two more points than Klopp’s final season. As I’ve mentioned before, 84 points wouldn’t have been enough to win the title in most of the past 10 seasons - the last season in which 84 points (2024/25) would have been enough to win the title was 2015/16 — the season won by Leicester (only once in the last 14 seasons, twice in 22 seasons).
Arne Slot asked if his job would be safe if #LFC did NOT qualify for Champions League: "The only thing I do know is that it happened before and recently (Jurgen Klopp in 22-23) and it didn’t affect the future of that manager. But that doesn't guarantee anything of course."
He added: "In general, managers especially at this club (are judged not just on league finishes). And at some clubs they also look at the progress the players make, the progress the team makes, the circumstances are sometimes taken into account."
View: https://x.com/LewisSteele_/status/2021350970630742308
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He might be a league winner and a questionable coach but he is a world class troll knowingly or unknowingly.
It's hilarious (to me) but his every word is now rage bait 🤣
Down with this sort of thing.
It's hilarious (to me) but his every word is now rage bait 🤣
Down with this sort of thing.
you can see that siege/ bunker mentality with some managers. like prime mourinho or klopp will have you running through walls for them, fuck what anyone else says, you’ve got a tight bond.
i’m guessing there’s none of that with slot and outside sentiment is being taken on board by the players.
why did slot keep getting a pass on everything he comes out with because he’s dutch? the pass is currently expiring but it’s not like virgil constantly blurts out a load of shite and doesn’t know when to shut up.
It's pretty straightforward. He's been given more financial support than any other manager in history. He's got a Premier League winning team, and he's at a club that doesn't mind the results going against them occasionally, if the team is playing well, and playing an attacking brand of ball. That the players are giving their all, that the football is smart, and the defensive nature of our game is also tended to. None of these are happening.
He doesn't seem to rotate, doesn't inspire squad players by showing them they can perform their way into the team ( a key metric), talks down squaddies, and doesn't have ANY Youff coming through (his choice).
Beyond that, the Manager CANNOT seem to inspire the players because his inter personal skills are frankly too lacking - which we are seeing in interviews.
He's done. Cooked. Finished.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see this manager inspiring us to a win today.
He doesn't seem to rotate, doesn't inspire squad players by showing them they can perform their way into the team ( a key metric), talks down squaddies, and doesn't have ANY Youff coming through (his choice).
Beyond that, the Manager CANNOT seem to inspire the players because his inter personal skills are frankly too lacking - which we are seeing in interviews.
He's done. Cooked. Finished.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see this manager inspiring us to a win today.
We have won away only four times in the PL this season. Every time we won, the opposition has had a red card. So hope we have a favorable referee.
I was interested, so decided to have a look at how it compares, I'm sure there's many ways to look at it, but I think below is fairly reasonable.
This season is obviously not complete, so some of these will go up, the likes of Rio, Trey and Endo could enter the > 500 minutes, and maybe a few into the 200 minutes. Stats taken from https://www.anfield-online.co.uk/stats/lfc-stats.html
I would say Slot rotates less (it's funny, it used to be stick to beat Rafa with, that he did it too much), but it's not wildly outside Klopp's numbers, and indeed some of his seasons were worse.
| Season | Players ≥200 mins | Players ≥500 mins | Top-15 share of all minutes | # players to reach 80% of mimutes | # players to reach 90% of minutes |
| 2016-17 | 24 | 19 | 87.3% | 14 | 16 |
| 2017-18 | 23 | 21 | 82.2% | 15 | 18 |
| 2018-19 | 20 | 19 | 91.8% | 12 | 15 |
| 2019-20 | 28 | 22 | 83.1% | 14 | 19 |
| 2020-21 | 28 | 22 | 82.7% | 14 | 20 |
| 2021-22 | 28 | 25 | 81.0% | 15 | 19 |
| 2022-23 | 26 | 22 | 80.04% | 15 | 19 |
| 2023-24 | 25 | 22 | 77.3% | 16 | 19 |
| 2024-25 | 25 | 21 | 84.7% | 14 | 17 |
| 2025-26 (to date) | 22 | 19 | 88.2% | 13 | 16 |
I think slot rotates when he has options he thinks are suitable.
Obviously the forum decides that since performances are bad every decision he makes is wrong.
I just think our squad is poor and a normal amount of injuries sort of have fucked it. Most substitutions he makes, which are also wrong, because see above, tend to make the team worse.
The players some are championing, Endo, Rio, chiesa etc. probably should have more minutes, but not a lot more. If we were at all comfortable, they would, but we are seldomly in a comfortable game state. Would they make a big difference? Not based on much that I've seen. Rio is perhaps the exception, and not because I think he's very good, he just actually changes how we play a bit.
Setting that aside though, the squad isn't fit for purpose.
Making this harder, our fitness levels aren't there. We have multiple players who are good for 70 minutes of what is now a 105 minute series of stupid little sprints.
Obviously the forum decides that since performances are bad every decision he makes is wrong.
I just think our squad is poor and a normal amount of injuries sort of have fucked it. Most substitutions he makes, which are also wrong, because see above, tend to make the team worse.
The players some are championing, Endo, Rio, chiesa etc. probably should have more minutes, but not a lot more. If we were at all comfortable, they would, but we are seldomly in a comfortable game state. Would they make a big difference? Not based on much that I've seen. Rio is perhaps the exception, and not because I think he's very good, he just actually changes how we play a bit.
Setting that aside though, the squad isn't fit for purpose.
Making this harder, our fitness levels aren't there. We have multiple players who are good for 70 minutes of what is now a 105 minute series of stupid little sprints.
Get out here with your "reasoning". Heretic!
I'm willing to risk the drive home from training in my Bentley bluetoothing some shite tunes into my earbuds, getting ready for some afternoon delight with some big tit model and tell myself some hurty words won't stop my progress or lessen my motivation.
For Christ's sake when can we expect the players to take some responsibility. As if the senior players take to the field full of mistakes because some Dutch bloke might say words not necessarily in the right order.
It's tough because I look at that squad and think it has to be doing better. Look at the players (as they are when playing even to their normal levels) head-to-head vs any other team. They should be pissing this league.
Ali, VvD, Konate, Macca, Gravy, Szobo, Wirtz, Salah, Isak, Ekitike ... that's 10 top class players with others not too shabby either.
I have to think it's down to in-game tactics. So either Slot is trying to get them to play tactics that don't suit the player profile or the players don't get it (again on Slot) or what?! Fitness? Why? How? Yes I know Diogo's passing will affect players, but in-game? I doubt it. I just don't understand why this team is struggling.
Ali, VvD, Konate, Macca, Gravy, Szobo, Wirtz, Salah, Isak, Ekitike ... that's 10 top class players with others not too shabby either.
I have to think it's down to in-game tactics. So either Slot is trying to get them to play tactics that don't suit the player profile or the players don't get it (again on Slot) or what?! Fitness? Why? How? Yes I know Diogo's passing will affect players, but in-game? I doubt it. I just don't understand why this team is struggling.