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Post Match EPL Sunderland (H) 1-1 Wednesday 3rd Dec - 20:15

A hot potato? That would imply they were moving it about quickly.

No, this was like a lukewarm, mushy spud being passed around a bunch of stoners.

Correct Analogy, TBF..

Slow as shit.. though I was implying they preferred to pass backwards or sideways rather than actually run and try doing something with it.. hence the hot potato comment,

Wirtz - like my flick, To you Macca (passes backwards with a fancy flick)

McAllister - Konate.. here you have it. Don't want it..

Konate- No you have it.. (to VVD)

VVD- Oh I will just pass it back to Alisson he can launch it..

Alisson proceeds to role it out Gravy or Konate, rinse and repeat

Robbo - fucking hell guys get it to Isak at least FFS..
 
It turns out not watching the match doesn't help. So that's one superstition down the shitter. I've had a season ticket for 40 years and I probs couldn't tell you why. But I did do something I've never done before for the PSV game... I went and met a mate in the king Harry at 7, and we were still in there at half 8 watching it on the TV. Finally got in the ground before half time and got some chicken strips... you see the thing is you don't get credit on your season ticket if you don't actually attend. Next thing they'd kicked off again but instead of going to our seats me and my mate fucked off back the pub, full of chicken strips and match credits. I've never done that before and wouldn't have against PSV if I could have passed my ticket on to someone else but I literally couldn't give my ticket away. No one wants to watch us. Last night was different, I was getting the train back from London and I did manage to sort several tickets for several people, but when I was listening to the game on the way home I felt more like a fentanyl dealer than father christmas. Get this stupid fucking bellend sacked before it gets worse. Because it is going to get worse.
 
It turns out not watching the match doesn't help. So that's one superstition down the shitter. I've had a season ticket for 40 years and I probs couldn't tell you why. But I did do something I've never done before for the PSV game... I went and met a mate in the king Harry at 7, and we were still in there at half 8 watching it on the TV. Finally got in the ground before half time and got some chicken strips... you see the thing is you don't get credit on your season ticket if you don't actually attend. Next thing they'd kicked off again but instead of going to our seats me and my mate fucked off back the pub, full of chicken strips and match credits. I've never done that before and wouldn't have against PSV if I could have passed my ticket on to someone else but I literally couldn't give my ticket away. No one wants to watch us. Last night was different, I was getting the train back from London and I did manage to sort several tickets for several people, but when I was listening to the game on the way home I felt more like a fentanyl dealer than father christmas. Get this stupid fucking bellend sacked before it gets worse. Because it is going to get worse.

How often can you sort tickets, mate? My 8 year old son is full of wide-eyed hope and optimism. I need to teach him a life lesson...
 
Everyone was asleep and missed the start of the 20th minute Jota chant. I’m sure it started closer to the 21st minute.
Quite correct.. I was in the Kop thinking the exact same thing..

The clock was nearly on 21 minutes when the Jota song started..

It did seem to lift the side for about 2 or 3 minutes. After that it was usual as..
 
As Fabio said, cumulative xG is a load of shite. We're not creating clear cut opportunities
Well no it's not. If a shot has an xG of 0.1 then statistically you can expect 1 in 10 to go in. If it's 0.05 then 1 in 20.

So if we have an xG of 1.42 then obviously you can expect more goals than a team with an xG of 0.40. Statistically.

Agree we need to create more clear cut chances - which in turn will then increase the xG.
 
It turns out not watching the match doesn't help. So that's one superstition down the shitter. I've had a season ticket for 40 years and I probs couldn't tell you why. But I did do something I've never done before for the PSV game... I went and met a mate in the king Harry at 7, and we were still in there at half 8 watching it on the TV. Finally got in the ground before half time and got some chicken strips... you see the thing is you don't get credit on your season ticket if you don't actually attend. Next thing they'd kicked off again but instead of going to our seats me and my mate fucked off back the pub, full of chicken strips and match credits. I've never done that before and wouldn't have against PSV if I could have passed my ticket on to someone else but I literally couldn't give my ticket away. No one wants to watch us. Last night was different, I was getting the train back from London and I did manage to sort several tickets for several people, but when I was listening to the game on the way home I felt more like a fentanyl dealer than father christmas. Get this stupid fucking bellend sacked before it gets worse. Because it is going to get worse.
You should send that to the club.
 
Well no it's not. If a shot has an xG of 0.1 then statistically you can expect 1 in 10 to go in. If it's 0.05 then 1 in 20.

So if we have an xG of 1.42 then obviously you can expect more goals than a team with an xG of 0.40. Statistically.

Agree we need to create more clear cut chances - which in turn will then increase the xG.

Eye test, man. We play slow, turgid, insipid football. We're getting the results of a slow, turgid, insipid team.

People can get lost in the analytics and statistics. It's like when people fell over themselves inventing statistics to say Lucas was a good player. But the simple fact is, we were winning stuff before he showed up, won nothing while he was here, then started winning again once he fucked off. Sometimes it really is that simple.
 
It turns out not watching the match doesn't help. So that's one superstition down the shitter. I've had a season ticket for 40 years and I probs couldn't tell you why. But I did do something I've never done before for the PSV game... I went and met a mate in the king Harry at 7, and we were still in there at half 8 watching it on the TV. Finally got in the ground before half time and got some chicken strips... you see the thing is you don't get credit on your season ticket if you don't actually attend. Next thing they'd kicked off again but instead of going to our seats me and my mate fucked off back the pub, full of chicken strips and match credits. I've never done that before and wouldn't have against PSV if I could have passed my ticket on to someone else but I literally couldn't give my ticket away. No one wants to watch us. Last night was different, I was getting the train back from London and I did manage to sort several tickets for several people, but when I was listening to the game on the way home I felt more like a fentanyl dealer than father christmas. Get this stupid fucking bellend sacked before it gets worse. Because it is going to get worse.
Reckon Wolves tickets are possible to get? Would deffo like to go while I'm back over crimbo
 

Liverpool v Wolves when Woy was in charge over Christmas. Attendance 41k. You never know. Usually the Christmas matches are massively over subscribed but not when you're shite, and we're shite
The Wolves one will be a big one though because of Jota I reckon. I auctioned some VIP tickets for that game at a charity event for the charity I work for, and everyone was going mad with their bids because of the significance of the game (we were also not losing games then).
 

Liverpool v Wolves when Woy was in charge over Christmas. Attendance 41k. You never know. Usually the Christmas matches are massively over subscribed but not when you're shite, and we're shite
I deffo went to a lot of games during the Hodge era cos we were shite but I was also grateful I could go.

In case you hear of a pair or two singles let me know!
 
And our goal wasn't a massively deflected shot?
What's that got to do with the price of bread? You were going on about Sunderland's chances and how their xG must have been higher (ours was x3 more). Still nowhere near enough because absolutely we didn't (don't) make enough clear cut chances, but let's at least get the facts straight.
 
Everyone was asleep and missed the start of the 20th minute Jota chant. I’m sure it started closer to the 21st minute.
Yeah I listened for it and didn't hear it. Was that a response to the recent trending train of thought I keep hearing that it is upsetting for the players on the pitch to hear?
 
Eye test, man. We play slow, turgid, insipid football. We're getting the results of a slow, turgid, insipid team.
Oh I absolutely agree with that. As I said.

I just feel that we are not getting the goals our xG suggests we should be getting whilst we're conceding more than the xG suggests we should be conceding.
 
Xg is shite when evaluating over 90 minutes. Our xg was a respectable 1.46....but that's from 20 shots. That means (on average) our shots are fucking shite.

Xg for individual chances, fine. Cumulative? That's a load of shite

I think it's the opposite, it's more useful in the cumulative than the individual.
 
Yeah I listened for it and didn't hear it. Was that a response to the recent trending train of thought I keep hearing that it is upsetting for the players on the pitch to hear?
Im all for it stopping. Last night I don’t think anyone in the crowd got going and then when it got to 20:30 on the clock someone went oh fuck.
 
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