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Hugo Boss

He is here, and I can plot his lack of fitness and injuries quite easily. I can also point to him being part of the unbalance in our team. None of that changes my confusing on why we signed another forward, for a record breaking fee, when we had someone else already through the door. We have replaced Nunez twice and not Jota.
I think Hugo has some of Jota’s skill set. He drops deep, links up, and is quite running and dribbling at defenders.

He definitely seems more versatile than Isak and why seeing both of them on the field together can make sense.

I was also never convinced that Isak was a good idea because of his injury record. Sigh.
 
He's excellent. Comfortably been our best player, not just our best signing. The attack needs building around him in this messy interim period. , Wirtz/Salah/Gakpo all need to learn to drive beyond him when he drops deep, but do the verse when he's on the last man. He can do either, so the supporting cast needs to pick their moments and adapt to his actions.
 
Not buying Isak doesn’t mean we don’t buy anyone. That money could’ve got Guehi over the line and added a DM, LW and back-up forward.
That's fantasyland. Only if you are happy with average players to keep us in the Top 4. If we want to win the PL / CL we need better than 3-4 players for the ca. £116m we paid (no it was not £140m - unless you are the Daily Express/Mail, it really bugs me when people exaggerate to try to prove some point they are struggling to prove).
 
Salah is here for another season and three quarters. Isak was proven in a side that plays completely different to us so was also somewhat a wild card.
Nah. He's gone end of the season. A waste of £450k a week. If you wanted to save money then there you are.
 
That's fantasyland. Only if you are happy with average players to keep us in the Top 4. If we want to win the PL / CL we need better than 3-4 players for the ca. £116m we paid (no it was not £140m - unless you are the Daily Express/Mail, it really bugs me when people exaggerate to try to prove some point they are struggling to prove).
Not buying Isak doesn't mean we buy average players though. You're acting like the choice was Isak or Chris wood
 
Not buying Isak doesn't mean we buy average players though. You're acting like the choice was Isak or Chris wood
3-4 players? In this market that's what you'll get for £116m. It's naive to think otherwise. What did Ekitike cost?
 
Lots of hind sight in play here. Also very early days for Isak.

Lots of these views existed before we signed him. Evidence below:


Yes my thoughts exactly. Forget Isak, get two more CBs and a DM.

I’m getting Caicedo vibes over Isak. Not saying he wouldn’t be a superb signing, but instead of signing Caicedo we signed Macca Szobo and Gravy.

I think we could do the same at CB and transform our team for the long term.

I have this feeling our central defence will drop off this season with Virg a year older and no true CBs to manage the load.

I don't want Isak, I want a CB to replace Ibu and a DM/CM who can play when we need to rotate.
 
That's fantasyland. Only if you are happy with average players to keep us in the Top 4. If we want to win the PL / CL we need better than 3-4 players for the ca. £116m we paid (no it was not £140m - unless you are the Daily Express/Mail, it really bugs me when people exaggerate to try to prove some point they are struggling to prove).
I was going to say Szoboszlai, Mac Allister, Gravenberch and Endo or Caicedo. But Brizz has done it already.
 
That's fantasyland. Only if you are happy with average players to keep us in the Top 4. If we want to win the PL / CL we need better than 3-4 players for the ca. £116m we paid (no it was not £140m - unless you are the Daily Express/Mail, it really bugs me when people exaggerate to try to prove some point they are struggling to prove).

This is hilarious because in the exact same situation we got Szobo Macca Gravy & Endo instead of Caicedo and they were all key to winning the league.
 
I was going to say Szoboszlai, Mac Allister, Gravenberch and Endo or Caicedo. But Brizz has done it already.
What decade are you talking about? It's not last / this season. Why even mention Caiceido? He cost the same as Isak!
And Endo is exactly the type of average player that would see us Top 10 but Top 4 even.
 
What decade are you talking about? It's not last / this season. Why even mention Caiceido? He cost the same as Isak!
And Endo is exactly the type of average player that would see us Top 10 but Top 4 even.

You think Chelsea signed Caicedo a decade ago?
 
This is hilarious because in the exact same situation we got Szobo Macca Gravy & Endo instead of Caicedo and they were all key to winning the league.
Do you honestly think we'd get that lot in this market? Or that we'd be that lucky again? Dream on Brizz.
 
Do you honestly think we'd get that lot in this market? Or that we'd be that lucky again? Dream on Brizz.

Well using fees of players who moved, that play in positions we need we could have signed 2 - 3 of these for the equivalent of Isak. This doesn't even include non PL transfers, or players who didn't move.

CBs
- Mosquera - 15m
- Hincapie (loan out)
- Diakite - 35m
- Huijsen - 60m
- Zabarnyi - 60m
- Akanji (loan out)
- Lindelof - free


DM/CM
- Norgaard 12m
- Jacob Ramsey - 40m
- Douglas Luiz (loan)

CF
- Wissa - 55m
- Pedro - 60m
- Delap - 35m
-

This doesn't include other targets we could have closed out like Guehi, Wharton and many many others. So for the same amount as Isak's 145m transfer (all numbers above are in EUR, Isak was 145 in EUR) you can se there are plenty of ways you could have had an approach to get 2 - 3 players that would bolster the squad.
 
More than we paid for our whole midfield
Exactly. You seem to have misunderstood the debate. Momo quoted him along with three others for the price of Isak. Post #612

Also :
Szobo £60m in 2023
Macca was £35m rising to £55m and that was because he had a special break clause. 2023.
Gravy was £35m in 2023. And had Klopp still been here I reckon Gravy wouldn't be (or wouldn't be the player he is today because Klopp didn't see his potential).

So you reckon we could get 4 players like that 2 years later in today's market? And that they'd all be that good? I'll have some of whatever you're smoking!
 
Well using fees of players who moved, that play in positions we need we could have signed 2 - 3 of these for the equivalent of Isak. This doesn't even include non PL transfers, or players who didn't move.

CBs
- Mosquera - 15m
- Hincapie (loan out)
- Diakite - 35m
- Huijsen - 60m
- Zabarnyi - 60m
- Akanji (loan out)
- Lindelof - free


DM/CM
- Norgaard 12m
- Jacob Ramsey - 40m
- Douglas Luiz (loan)

CF
- Wissa - 55m
- Pedro - 60m
- Delap - 35m
-

This doesn't include other targets we could have closed out like Guehi, Wharton and many many others. So for the same amount as Isak's 145m transfer (all numbers above are in EUR, Isak was 145 in EUR) you can se there are plenty of ways you could have had an approach to get 2 - 3 players that would bolster the squad.
You've just proven my point for me. That's an average bucket of tripe if ever I saw one!

Mosquera maybe not but that's one of Chelsea's 203 gambles that may pay off. We don't do that.

Except Huison but we couldn't get him anyway as he was always Real bound.

And Wharton is going to be £70+m not exactly in the '4 for the price of Isak' bracket.

Oh and let's not revise this down from Momo's '4 players' (that money could’ve got Guehi over the line and added a DM, LW and back-up forward.) to '2-3'. Whilst also remembering that none of us foresaw the start Ekitike has had, in fact only 33% of the site wanted him. He was supposed to be the backup striker !

 
What decade are you talking about? It's not last / this season. Why even mention Caiceido? He cost the same as Isak!
And Endo is exactly the type of average player that would see us Top 10 but Top 4 even.
Costing the same as Isak is the exact point. We were sensible about it and decided to use that money across other key areas, including having a “just does a job” player in Endo. I’m not advocating buying 4 fucking Endos.

Getting Guehi over the line (another £10 million in late July would see him here), a player like Jacob Ramsay (£40 mill) plus two more is not out of the question.
 
Exactly. You seem to have misunderstood the debate. Momo quoted him along with three others for the price of Isak. Post #612

Also :
Szobo £60m in 2023
Macca was £35m rising to £55m and that was because he had a special break clause. 2023.
Gravy was £35m in 2023. And had Klopp still been here I reckon Gravy wouldn't be (or wouldn't be the player he is today because Klopp didn't see his potential).

So you reckon we could get 4 players like that 2 years later in today's market? And that they'd all be that good? I'll have some of whatever you're smoking!

You are making yourself look like a bit of a balloon head
 
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