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Not arsed.
for such a heavy whack it'd be worth it like
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The only club who would be prepared to pay £20M for Lucas Leiva right now is Liverpool football club.
depends how late in the in transfer window the offer came. if we were offered a big sum now I'd take it, if it were offered in on deadline day, than no. if we lost lucas and didn't replace who can do what lucas does, gerrard? meireles?
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45827.msg1353613#msg1353613 date=1308815572]
I wouldn't sell him. He's completely underrated and is a decent squad player.
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If you'd have taken Oncey's stance and gone with one of our best players or an out and out first teamer, I'd get it.
But you wouldn't take 20M for a "decent squad player"?
I wouldn't sell him. He's completely underrated and is a decent squad player.
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If you'd have taken Oncey's stance and gone with one of our best players or an out and out first teamer, I'd get it.
But you wouldn't take 20M for a "decent squad player"?
I'd do that for the £15 mill. Even with his noticeable improvement last season he's no more than decent, and unlike some fellow posters I don't think he has much - if indeed any - more improvement left in him. I wouldn't let him go for peanuts (he's fine as a squaddie and we'd need to be sure we could replace him) but the idea that he's a player we have to keep makes no sense to me.
Look at the market though. 15-20m for Lucas gets you what? Downing? Henderson?
Its just not good value. I know Lucas probably isnt worth 20m but then Henderson is worth about 4m so the market is nuts.
Selling Lucas for an increased fee just means we have to sign someone else for an increased fee AND hope they hit the ground running and perform better than our player of the season.
Whats the point.
If we sign Banega (eg) and keep Lucas, if Banega cant play we have Lucas.
Jovanovic
Aquilani
Cole
Degen
Insua
Konchesky
etc
We have lots of shit to sell without weakening our first team
I just dont get it.
I dont see why we (as a non selling club) would sell our best players.
Its just not good value. I know Lucas probably isnt worth 20m but then Henderson is worth about 4m so the market is nuts.
Selling Lucas for an increased fee just means we have to sign someone else for an increased fee AND hope they hit the ground running and perform better than our player of the season.
Whats the point.
If we sign Banega (eg) and keep Lucas, if Banega cant play we have Lucas.
Jovanovic
Aquilani
Cole
Degen
Insua
Konchesky
etc
We have lots of shit to sell without weakening our first team
I just dont get it.
I dont see why we (as a non selling club) would sell our best players.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45827.msg1353619#msg1353619 date=1308816161]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45827.msg1353613#msg1353613 date=1308815572]
I wouldn't sell him. He's completely underrated and is a decent squad player.
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If you'd have taken Oncey's stance and gone with one of our best players or an out and out first teamer, I'd get it.
But you wouldn't take 20M for a "decent squad player"?
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We wouldn't get £20m for starters. And we've just paid that more or less that for Henderson who, at the moment, is no more than a decent squad player. Lucas has improved impressively and become an important part of the first team and squad. Now I'm not going to go all RAWK and say he's our best player and there's no better out there - far from it - but neither am I going to refuse to admit he's playing an important role just because I historically have said he was shite (and I've had times where I've thought this) as many people on here do.
He's in the team, he's settled and he's producing. So why sell ?
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45827.msg1353613#msg1353613 date=1308815572]
I wouldn't sell him. He's completely underrated and is a decent squad player.
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If you'd have taken Oncey's stance and gone with one of our best players or an out and out first teamer, I'd get it.
But you wouldn't take 20M for a "decent squad player"?
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We wouldn't get £20m for starters. And we've just paid that more or less that for Henderson who, at the moment, is no more than a decent squad player. Lucas has improved impressively and become an important part of the first team and squad. Now I'm not going to go all RAWK and say he's our best player and there's no better out there - far from it - but neither am I going to refuse to admit he's playing an important role just because I historically have said he was shite (and I've had times where I've thought this) as many people on here do.
He's in the team, he's settled and he's producing. So why sell ?
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45827.msg1353613#msg1353613 date=1308815572]
I wouldn't sell him. He's completely underrated and is a decent squad player.
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Lucas isn't a squad player he is a first teamer, he SHOULD be a squad player but currently there is no one in the squad that can do a better job as a defensive shield. How many games has gerrard played as a holding midfielder? Five?
I wouldn't sell him. He's completely underrated and is a decent squad player.
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Lucas isn't a squad player he is a first teamer, he SHOULD be a squad player but currently there is no one in the squad that can do a better job as a defensive shield. How many games has gerrard played as a holding midfielder? Five?
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45827.msg1353637#msg1353637 date=1308817834]
Coz 20M has the potential to improve the first team more than Lucas.
[/quote]I cant argue with that Ken, but its a chance rather than a fact. Id much rather clear the dead wood and see if we can improve the team than risk taking out one of the players who actually played well last year all year.
We also seem to have the money to compete without selling so i dont see the point in selling him. We will sign our targets regardless.
He's also going to play a key role for Brasil in the Copa America which hopefully will bring the lad back buzzing with confidence for the new season.
He improved at the start of the season and then markedly under Dalglish and Clarke, i think given a full pre-season and a successful Copa America he could come back on fire.
I dont want to sell him.
I want to sell the dutty players.
Coz 20M has the potential to improve the first team more than Lucas.
[/quote]I cant argue with that Ken, but its a chance rather than a fact. Id much rather clear the dead wood and see if we can improve the team than risk taking out one of the players who actually played well last year all year.
We also seem to have the money to compete without selling so i dont see the point in selling him. We will sign our targets regardless.
He's also going to play a key role for Brasil in the Copa America which hopefully will bring the lad back buzzing with confidence for the new season.
He improved at the start of the season and then markedly under Dalglish and Clarke, i think given a full pre-season and a successful Copa America he could come back on fire.
I dont want to sell him.
I want to sell the dutty players.
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