In defence of the defence
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My point is, to not lose from leading in all of those games...when the opposition has to be putting our defence under more pressure than it otherwise would...suggests to me we must be doing something right. Although I do appreciate this might be an inconvenient truth for some.
This is just ridiculous. The 65 games obviously includes many from last season when we frequently scored early. Or have you seen nothing?
The first thing that came to my mind when reading the thread title was the legendary thread that dreamy started couple of years back.
The spelling in the thread title (specifically the second defense) needs to be changed to commemorate that thread...
The spelling in the thread title (specifically the second defense) needs to be changed to commemorate that thread...
The unbeaten record also includes us leading 0-3 vs Palace, only to end up 3-3 and saying goodbye to the title.
Goals conceded this season (thru 21/22 matches) : Liverpool 27, Arsenal 25 (one game less), United 21, Spurs 30, City 20. Our record is far from horrendous and if we continue to play as we are now, with Sturridge, Lallana and Gerrard to return, then not only will our record end up better than most of those but we are in with a great shout of Top 4.
Those attacking players will have no baring to our goals concede record.
As proven last season.
In a 65 game stretch you're going to be able to pick out a few examples that disprove the theory. Overall though, it's a pretty impressive stat and the longer it continues the harder it's going to be for those of you who've leapt on the 'Rodgers can't set up a defence' bandwagon to hold your position.
I dont think that's the point, games have gotten away from us because of a lack of fire power, add goals to the team and it takes away some of the pressure on us defensively.
That's not what I was arguing, as you could probably see from the post I quoted, but anyway, now I'm intrigued. So you're in the 'Rodgers is great a setting up a defence' camp?
We conceded 1.28 goals per game last season. Maybe you'd like to pick out a few examples to disprove this little stat.
No I'm not. I've never said I thought he was a great defensive coach. I tend not to adopt such binary thinking to most matters, especially football as it just leads to ridiculous, emotionally-charged, knee-jerk reactions. So while I don't think he's great, I don't necessarily think he's the complete novice that many on here think he is. He makes mistakes, so do his players. I think most of our defensive howlers this season have been down to daft individual mistakes that have nothing whatsoever to do with coaching or set-up.
The title was already lost, regardless of a victory at Selhurst Park
How dare you say something positive towards the defenders/defensive system on this site. Obviously you have no idea about football.
We've gone from conceding 1,35 goals pr game to 1,1 after switching to 3-4-3.
After the Utd game we've conceded 7 in 8 games. Thats 0,875 pr game.
Rodgers is far from great at setting up a defence but its an improvement on both last season and the horror show earlier this season.
It's pretty obvious the point that people are making - we've improved defensively of late, there's no need for the snide "Rodgers is great at setting up a defense" comment. People are just recognising what effort he has made, at addressing our biggest flaw.
Like I said in the Rodgers thread, people clearly have an agenda here. When we win it's because we've rode our luck, when we lose or draw that's our standard, last year was a fluke etc. In this thread it's a case of, Rodgers can't defend, so any signs of defensive stability is down the level of opposition and luck.
Last 4 games: 1 goal conceded and that was a penalty. No goals conceded from open play. Chelsea and Bolton both didn't trouble Mignolet once from open play. Don't want to jinx it for Chelsea, but our defence have been doing something right recently.
Lothar Emre Can passed his first test in the middle of the back 3 with flying colours, wouldn't you say? He's a real quality all-around player.
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BTW I just learned that Brits write "defence" with a "c" and Americans with an "s." I always wanted to write this word with "c," but got autocorrected.
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BTW I just learned that Brits write "defence" with a "c" and Americans with an "s." I always wanted to write this word with "c," but got autocorrected.
I actually think Can can be the new Hyppia.
No need to apologise at all if that's how you saw it, but (like many others appaz) I don't agree. He's a work in progress, yes, but a heck of a good one.
No need to apologise for disagreeing. It's just a shame so few can do it with such good grace.
Although for what it's worth you're wrong!
He's just too good going forward for me to ever want to commit him to being a CB. However... he's good at virtually everything so he can do it for now. His skill on the ball is amazing, the way he puts his body between the ball and the defender while running at quite impressive pace is awesome. I hope we get to see him in midfield in the future.
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