Not making any excuses for them but to say Jota is on last chance saloon is a tad erratic, no?
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Again, mitigating circumstances due to his body growth. He never missed 40-50% of games.
His record is a huge concern. Like with oxlade chamberlain, Keita and Thiago.
His record is nowhere near as bad as those. Ox Naby Thiago Matip Gomez are injury prone players. Jota is far from that. Go find how how football he's missed in the past 5 years before this season.
Wouldn't want Diaz to pick up another injury, he'd be on last chance saloon as well.
Or is that another 1 that falls under your mitigating narrative to suit your agenda?
If Newcastle offered £70m in the summer, you wouldn't sell?
There is no agenda. He misses A LOT of games. With Diaz, time will tell. But if he keeps on having repeated injuries then yes, get rid. There’s nothing more useless to this club than consistently injured players.
Forget the amount here that's besides the point.
I'd take 70m for most of our players regardless of injury status.
He played 55 times in all comps last season.....that's playing a lot, not missing a lot.
Like I say learn to know where to draw the line between crocks and someone's who's had 1 or 2 injuries.
A crock wouldn't be able to play as many games/minutes as he did last season.
He missed 23 the season before. He’s missed 16 so far this season. That is a lot.
When a player is having multiple injuries you need to reflect on those injuries to determine if they’re a crock. It isn’t a case of x% makes them a crock. Repeatedly having periods out makes them a crock. Just like you would in any workplace you’d look across the history of the person before deciding to get rid.
When a player is having multiple injuries you need to reflect on those injuries to determine if they’re a crock. It isn’t a case of x% makes them a crock. Repeatedly having periods out makes them a crock. Just like you would in any workplace you’d look across the history of the person before deciding to get rid.
So you're with me, you'd sell him for around £70m? He will have missed close to or over 50 games for Liverpool since 2020 until he returns in Feb/March. Do we really want another Andy Carroll or Naby on our hands? Injuries take their toll, so cashing in while his stock remains high would be the prudent thing to do
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I'd rather we kept him tbf, he's a quality player & I'm not that concerned for his fitness.
You have to be careful what you wish for, 70m will only take you so far....sign a replacement, ok he might always be available but won't as much of an effect on games like Jota.
Or the replacement could have a relatively clean bill of health (like Jota had before we signed him - I don't see anything too major during his time at Wolves) and go down the exact same route.
I mean imagine us actually selling a player of Jota's calibre to a club like Newcastle....what would that say about us as a club? We should be the ones poaching the likes of Saint Max and Guimares off them.
You have to be careful what you wish for, 70m will only take you so far....sign a replacement, ok he might always be available but won't as much of an effect on games like Jota.
Or the replacement could have a relatively clean bill of health (like Jota had before we signed him - I don't see anything too major during his time at Wolves) and go down the exact same route.
I mean imagine us actually selling a player of Jota's calibre to a club like Newcastle....what would that say about us as a club? We should be the ones poaching the likes of Saint Max and Guimares off them.
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For sport
Just stick Trent upfront.
Or Mo centre and Doak on the right
https://www.goal.com/story/naby-keita-goal-50-exclusive/index.html
When i read this article, i envision some fearless warrior from Wakanda, but then i look at Keita, and i think to me self....did we fall for some elaborate African scam ? Did we get the real Naby or some fake, imitation Naby lad instead ? Maybe there was a twin brother we have not discovered yet ?
When i read this article, i envision some fearless warrior from Wakanda, but then i look at Keita, and i think to me self....did we fall for some elaborate African scam ? Did we get the real Naby or some fake, imitation Naby lad instead ? Maybe there was a twin brother we have not discovered yet ?
Klopp on the knocks sustained by Elliott and Robertson during the game...
Funnily enough, Harvey, before the game, injured Robbo a little bit. In our warm-up game, he hit him with a knee at the hip, so it was a dead leg. He could play but then at one point the muscle closed and he couldn’t play on. Harvey got a knock, which was quite painful, but when you see the situation because it is clear that’s painful, but that’s it, I think.
Funnily enough, Harvey, before the game, injured Robbo a little bit. In our warm-up game, he hit him with a knee at the hip, so it was a dead leg. He could play but then at one point the muscle closed and he couldn’t play on. Harvey got a knock, which was quite painful, but when you see the situation because it is clear that’s painful, but that’s it, I think.
Mid March - which would be 10 weeks or so.
Only one for us, second one is a rest week
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