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Isakly what we need (AKA Isak Hunt)

We deprived Newcastle of the chance to sign Ekitike by signing him ourselves. He can't play for both of us. Seems pretty obvious to me.

I think it's reasonable to spend relatively less on backup players than first choices. I think £80m on a backup striker is quite a lot. Not totally against it, but it's a bit questionable for me.
I doubt he'll be a back up player. He'll be part of the LW/CF rotation (in-game and for injuries, resting). I can see him getting just as many games / starts as Gakpo and Isak.

EDIT. That twat Stevie beat me to the post again.
 
Fundamentally I just think that money might have been better spent on a cheaper striker and a Diaz replacement - maybe chuck in an extra £20m and that should've been doable. As it is we look a bit overstocked at CF compared to LW. Guess it depends how well Ekitike covers LW, if indeed that's the plan.

Yeah - I guess it does depend on how well he can compete at LW and our shape - which with Kerkez providing width and Wirtz drifting wide in a deeper area could mean Ekitike going narrow towards the centre - dunno - but he seems like he has the skill set to play as a left forward rather than a more traditional “winger”.

It’s much of a muchness isn’t it - I don’t see 2 players for CF as overstocked, more like a minimum - we have more options at LW if you include the kids like Rio & Doak, with only really Danns in the centre.

Not sure about the “cheaper” striker - for me it’s a question of quality and there’s not a lot available out there - Ekitike may not be the one, but he looks a better bet than all the other available options a bit cheaper and then there’s the cost of a new LW’er - they aren’t likely to be any cheaper than Ekitike was and still be as good as Diaz.
 
Why were we unlikely to get Isak though? Newcastle were always gonna give in and sell him once they had their replacement. If they sell to us now it's not because we don't need him - they don't give a toss either way.

And personally I'd rather overpay by £20m for Isak then overpay by maybe £40m on Ekitike (compared to £30-40m we'd have spent on a backup striker).

And people saying we had to get Ekitike cos we need two strikers - the same applies to the LW position having signed him. Personally I'm happy enough having him as cover on the left, but I don't know why that's necessarily better than a LW like Rodrygo who can also cover up front. Either way we're slightly stretching 4 good attackers.
We were not "unlikely" to get Isak, per se; more I think it was a belief by the club "well if we can't get him because he doesn't fancy the move, we need to have our ducks in a row".

We've tried to mitigate the risk of not getting him ahead of actually trying to get him. I'm fine with that. It's a little overcautious, but if getting Ekitike doesn't stop us getting Isak I don't overly mind it.

Equally if we don't get isak now, I'm sure we will go for a LW like rodrygo and another st, possibly a mateta.
 
I think there's a legit scenario where Slot watched Ngumoha in training and thought balls to Mateta (there was reports we met him) divert the chunk of the Diaz money towards two quality strikers instead, especially with Isaks niggling injuries. We'll never really know, but I do find it unlikely the club would release such enormous funds for Isak and operate in such an unplanned way. We've only been known to do that really with Caicedo out of desperation at the end of the window.

Alternatively they might have an eye on a cheaper winger that represents some serious value.
 
I think there's a legit scenario where Slot watched Ngumoha in training and thought balls to Mateta (there was reports we met him) divert the chunk of the Diaz money towards two quality strikers instead, especially with Isaks niggling injuries. We'll never really know, but I do find it unlikely the club would release such enormous funds for Isak and operate in such an unplanned way. We've only been known to do that really with Caicedo out of desperation at the end of the window.

To me that reads like a fan putting themselves in the shoes of Slot having just watched Rio in pre-season.

I would hope Slot & co see Rio regularly and that the role of youth players factors into transfer plans much earlier.
 
I have a feeling that Ekitike is going to exceed 90% of the expectations on here.

I am lukewarm on Isak because of cost/injury ratio, but agree a 2nd striker is must.
 
Because there is an element of being practical in all of this. We are not City / PSG / Real Madrid and there has to be a recognition that this is a one off summer to get things right, just as it was when we spent the Coutinho money on Alisson and VVD - there wasn't another 100M to spend the following summer in case we fucked it up.

Isak is good. Is he the best option now? Perhaps, but if so, we should have thought about that before getting rinsed for Ekitike who is a carbon copy player.

We are light elsewhere in the squad, Salah and VVD won't last forever. Can we afford to put all our eggs in the Isak basket? Maybe we can, but it's a risky strategy, particularly given his injury record.

Isak is excellent & is absolutely the best option now & for the foreseeable, there really isn't any perhaps about it. He's the ready made package. 54 goals in 86 Premier League games & I'd expect his numbers to improve with the quality he has around him here.

We're not sacrificing other positions to buy Isak. There are no eggs all in one basket or anything reckless here. We're one of best run clubs in the league with very shrewd & capable people behind the scenes. We're in a very strong position on & off the field which we're capitalising on. There's no way Fenway are putting us in financial jeopardy.

You say Salah won't last forever. Wirtz & Isak are the replacement for his output but for a while we'll see them all together, hopefully anyway.
 
If we do sign Isak, when do y'all think Newcastle are selling to us? Immediately after they sign two CFs? Before our game with them on Aug 25th? Final day of the window (he misses Arsenal at home)?
 
If we do sign Isak, when do y'all think Newcastle are selling to us? Immediately after they sign two CFs? Before our game with them on Aug 25th? Final day of the window (he misses Arsenal at home)?
Suspect they'll get rid of him ASAP. Not sure Howe wants him around now that he's made it clear he wants out.
 
If we do sign Isak, when do y'all think Newcastle are selling to us? Immediately after they sign two CFs? Before our game with them on Aug 25th? Final day of the window (he misses Arsenal at home)?
One assumes they'll need the money to cover their purchases? They'll likely use a short term loan to buy. Probably @Beamrider can tell us?
 
One assumes they'll need the money to cover their purchases? They'll likely use a short term loan to buy. Probably @Beamrider can tell us?
Per their 2024 accounts they had bank facilities totalling £75m that they could draw on, of which £50m was drawn at the end of season 2023-24.
Over the previous three years they'd had injections of share capital just over £300m and a further £50m since their last set of accounts. So, basically put, they've been spending beyond their means and the PIF has been funding them. I imagine they would do so again if needed.
To put things into a wider perspective, most clubs have some term of revolving bank facility that they can draw down and repay as needed - football cashflow is quite lumpy through the season so clubs need to have, effectively, an overdraft to deal with the troughs. Newcastle's £75m is pretty low to be honest, I think they could quite easily secure more. However, it may be that the PIF has decided they would rather put the funding in themselves because it's cheaper - they'll have cash on hand, likely earning a lower return than the bank would charge Newcastle, so it makes sense for them to fund (this was the rationale for FSG lending us the funds to build the Main Stand).
It would certainly be easier for Newcastle to sell first and use those funds to buy but remember:
1. They only need to find 1/3 of the fees spent as deals are generally in three instalments.
2. They will probably be cash rich at present as they'll have just collected all their season ticket and seasonal hospitality money, plus some advance general admission ticket sales and sponsorship money for the coming season. Generally speaking, none of those payments would have come in before their previous year end, which is why their debt would have been largely drawn at that point.
 
Man Utd "We will only bid if Sesko chooses us"

In the last few minutes reports that Utd have submitted a bid of €75m + €10m in add ons.

Leipzig rejected the idea of Hojlund going the other way apparently to reduce the cost.

Isak deal hinges on Sesko going to Newcastle.
 
Man Utd "We will only bid if Sesko chooses us"

In the last few minutes reports that Utd have submitted a bid of €75m + €10m in add ons.

Leipzig rejected the idea of Hojlund going the other way apparently to reduce the cost.

Isak deal hinges on Sesko going to Newcastle.
Newcastle offer is better
 
It delays the Isak move, but it will still happen.
Newcastle getting Watkins or someone like that is probably a better deal than Sesko regardless.
 
It delays the Isak move, but it will still happen.
Newcastle getting Watkins or someone like that is probably a better deal than Sesko regardless.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Villa sell Watkins (and there's still rumours about Emi Martinez too). They sold their women's team to themselves to get around Premier League PSR (which suggests they were close to the £105m limit) and they need to get down to (at least) €60m for UEFA purposes, and I don't think UEFA will allow them to count the sale of the women's team, even though the PL will.
 
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