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Bradley said:
If, as there should be, there are discussions on sacking Slot now and Glasner is on the list of people we'd like to consider we need to pull the trigger.

We could reach the summer with Glasner as Spurs, Alonso somewhere else and Enrique at City.

Alonso would be my preferred option. Now.
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Not sure Glasner would regard Tottenham as an improvement on Palace but I *am* concerned he could end up at Old Toilet.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
I don't think anyone think it's acceptable, the difference is in how to address it.

I'm 50-50 on whether he should stay or go. I'm not in the camp of just get rid and we'll figure it out, I think we need to have a plan of who and what exactly, and that needs to be very likely to be better. There's a small, select few answers to that, I don't want us to end up like United, getting rid of managers without a plan on what to do next, it turns into an endless cycle.
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And that's more than reasonable a position.

For me I want out and I think we could find someone else. The fact now one of the managers we courted during slots appointment is available (in Alonso) it makes it even more an obvious time to do it.

Obviously I'm not immovable and if (somehow) we manage to find a rhythm, see active patterns of play, strengthen at the back line (with signings or without) and start getting results, then wonderful! I've just seen nothing to say it will
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
I'd take winning the league playing shite football over not winning it. But I don't think the option is on the table for us...
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Exactly... Winning the title while playing boring football I will accept but this crap we are seeing even if it means we scrap into champ lge places is not acceptable. I'd rather win 2 lose 2 than 4 pathetic draws
 
Fabio said:
And that's more than reasonable a position.

For me I want out and I think we could find someone else. The fact now one of the managers we courted during slots appointment is available (in Alonso) it makes it even more an obvious time to do it.

Obviously I'm not immovable and if (somehow) we manage to find a rhythm, see active patterns of play, strengthen at the back line (with signings or without) and start getting results, then wonderful! I've just seen nothing to say it will
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I don't think he'll turn it around enough to stay on. But I'm equally unconvinced that sacking him now would be beneficial.

He'll likely do well enough to squeak into the Champions League for next season and we'll part ways in the summer. Which is fair enough, I suppose, from my perspective.

I'm worried about wading into a manager recruitment battle with United, Real, maybe City, Spurs, and others. But I'm not certain the right successor is lined up and available right now.

For example, if we want Xabi, is he mentally ready to step into a new project right now or would he be best served by having a full preseason? Look at what happened when United forced Amorim to join midseason instead of waiting.

So, is there an interim manager that could give us a bump in results for the back half of the season? How many are ready to let Stevie G have five months at the helm?
 
darkstarexodus said:
I don't think he'll turn it around enough to stay on. But I'm equally unconvinced that sacking him now would be beneficial.

He'll likely do well enough to squeak into the Champions League for next season and we'll part ways in the summer. Which is fair enough, I suppose, from my perspective.

I'm worried about wading into a manager recruitment battle with United, Real, maybe City, Spurs, and others. But I'm not certain the right successor is lined up and available right now.

For example, if we want Xabi, is he mentally ready to step into a new project right now or would he be best served by having a full preseason? Look at what happened when United forced Amorim to join midseason instead of waiting.

So, is there an interim manager that could give us a bump in results for the back half of the season? How many are ready to let Stevie G have five months at the helm?
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It's weighing up the options

1) is it worth persisting with slot and hoping he does enough to get CL, then sack
2) bring in a new manager who may or may not make the cl (who fucking knows), but at the very least then has 5 months to assess the squad before the transfer window.

If you take option 2 then realistically we e may as well treat the rest of the season like pre season, which I don't hate. Id almost rather miss out on cl because we're learning rather than missing out on it because we aren't trying.

Chelsea and United genuinely have a chance to leapfrog us when it comes to cl qualification and I wouldn't be surprised to see us finish 6th or lower.

I think there's a reason we heavily scouted Alonso, and I don't think we've changed enough to think he's not viable any more. If we want Enrique or someone else, then going in to the summer with united, city, Madrid, potentially PSG all looking for managers, we're fucked.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
I don't think anyone think it's acceptable, the difference is in how to address it.

I'm 50-50 on whether he should stay or go. I'm not in the camp of just get rid and we'll figure it out, I think we need to have a plan of who and what exactly, and that needs to be very likely to be better. There's a small, select few answers to that, I don't want us to end up like United, getting rid of managers without a plan on what to do next, it turns into an endless cycle.
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At this stage we should have a plan..
 
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