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Job security - arne

Perhaps not, but I recall similar comments (understandably enough) on here and in the media before we went to Istanbul in 2005. Just sayin'.
Fair, but benitez could set up a defence and we had a force of nature in the midfield.

It's more likely that we'd be the AC Milan in that scenario
 
I think both Villa and Chelsea could be caught in the CL race, but not with Slot as our manager.
Villa I could maybe see. Chelsea in not sure. They have depth and a variety of styles they could use.

We have give it to wirtz and Ekitike and pray
 
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Villa I could maybe see. Chelsea in not sure. They have depth and a variety of styles they could use.

We have give it to wirtz and Ekitike and pray

Villa look shot and will drop points. I dont find Chelsea or Utd particularly impressive either but they seem to win games.
Shame we're such a mess cause a top 5 finish would be a cake walk with a decent manager.
 
Villa look shot and will drop points. I dont find Chelsea or Utd particularly impressive either but they seem to win games.
Shame we're such a mess cause a top 5 finish would be a cake walk with a decent manager.
The league would have been a cake walk with a decent manager. Arsenal are gettable and city are up and down.

We're 18 points (roughly) worse off compared to last season. We're 17 off arsenal
 
I think they still believe in him, it's more than just that, he's the least worst option, or nobody currently available. Patience must be wearing a bit thin though.
I imagine it's about 50/50 on him being here still next season. It depends on how the season pans out, and the pressure from fans, without the latter, I'd say the chances of him being here would be much higher.
 
Fair, but benitez could set up a defence and we had a force of nature in the midfield.

It's more likely that we'd be the AC Milan in that scenario
Already mentioned it a few times but I'd have more faith in a 65 year old Benitez taking over mid season and leading us to a CL win than Baldy Dutch van Waffle.
 
Yeah... As I've said elsewhere, I don't think we need a tactical supremo. For now, we need a manager who can do the basics, motivate, knows the club and the way we play, understands the fans etc. All the things Slot isn't doing. That alone would be a significant improvement in the short term. Carrick is the obvious parallel.

Carrick with a 1.56 points per game average for Boro to now being labeled as a genius by Utd supporters. He’ll get them CL football and I hope they hire him permanently as he’s not good enough imho.

We just need a new manager bounce. Someone to come in a let the players just play with some commitment and fire. We’d probably win more matches just with a change to anyone.
 
And it's not a coincidence that our best players are all new and young. They're like puppies. They're not thinking this is fucking gash, they're thinking fuck me, I'm playing for Liverpool. Wahey.

Everyone who was here under Klopp has been gradually deskilled and demoralised by this fucking moron. The same will happen to the new kids on the block soon. Speaking of things on the block. Bring me his fucking head on a fucking stick.
 
We were fucking rubbish against Newcastle, just two of our best players had a good game despite the lack of tactics. Even when we win we're shite.
Yep. Newcastle haven't won at Anfield since 1994 and their own trauma made them lose.
 

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Only three teams (Burnley, Leeds and Newcastle) have conceded more goals in the final 10 minutes plus injury time of games than Liverpool (10) this season and no team has lost more points than Liverpool (eight) from those goals.

Those eight points would put them level with Aston Villa in third, but instead Liverpool find themselves in sixth and four points behind Chelsea, who are fifth.

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"The Dutchman opted for a style of training that was less intense than what players may have been used to.

Slot had worked at Feyenoord with Ruben Peeters who followed him to Liverpool as the first team's lead performance coach. The pair tailored training to specific players, altering the intensity based on Liverpool's schedule and demands of upcoming games.

Sessions became longer but less intense and, on match days, Slot's Liverpool played less intensely out of possession than Klopp's teams did.

All of these factors, built upon a squad that was conditioned to play under Klopp, combined to leave them remarkably injury-free last season, resulting in Liverpool being crowned Premier League champions.

They have not been so fortunate this season.


Liverpool have looked to break teams down by initially committing bodies to the box, an approach that has left them vulnerable to counter-attacks.

Teams have deliberately looked to play long against Liverpool, which has also introduced more end-to-end running and duelling. The Liverpool players have physically struggled with this.

Slot has since gone for a more measured and defensively solid set-up which has reduced how end-to-end games are, but Liverpool struggle to score early.

The Premier League is home to the most sprints and high-intensity runs in Europe. Opponents can afford to minimise how much they run through a season by spending large parts of the game in their pragmatic low blocks.

However, Liverpool's fans are likely to want to see high-octane games from their side.

With an uptick in soft tissue injuries, there is a worry the training methods and on-field tactics described here have been sub-optimal this season when compared to last season, with Liverpool's players dropping off in the latter parts of games.


Between wanting to appease fans, ensuring his players stay fit, wanting to score early and aiming to stay solid at the back, the Liverpool boss has a difficult balancing act on his hands.
 
The thing about the Hodgson comparison is, if he'd won the league for us, he'd definitely have gotten more time than he got. We're also just one point behind where we were, the year after we last won the league.
 
The thing about the Hodgson comparison is, if he'd won the league for us, he'd definitely have gotten more time than he got. We're also just one point behind where we were, the year after we last won the league.


You don't think that one was down to the hobbling of our entire spine?

We haven't had great luck with injuries this year, but it's been nothing like that.
 

We’ve touched on this before (this season vs. 20/21 — the season after we last won the league). We were hit hard by injuries that year.

We still finished 20/21 in 3rd place with 69 points. With 13 games left this season, we need 30 points (out of a possible 39) to match that tally.

Klopp led us on that late-season run (26 points from the final 10 games) with Williams and Phillips filling in at centre-back.

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As for Hodgson, putting job security aside and looking purely at results, these were his signings 😰.

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We’ve touched on this before (this season vs. 20/21 — the season after we last won the league). We were hit hard by injuries that year.

We still finished 20/21 in 3rd place with 69 points. With 13 games left this season, we need 30 points (out of a possible 39) to match that tally.

Klopp led us on that late-season run (26 points from the final 10 games) with Williams and Phillips filling in at centre-back.

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As for Hodgson, putting job security aside and looking purely at results, these were his signings 😰.

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The Williams / Philips thing is why I believe we should play Ramsay at right back until we can trust Gomez to come back in - I always feel like a specialist player with lesser quality is a better option than playing someone else out of position. Dom's done great at right back but a specialist wouldn't have played Silva on yesterday. Not Dom's fault, he's not a right back.
And the word I heard was that Joe Cole was a Christian Purslow signing (like that should ever happen). The rest were on Roy and they, like him, were symptomatic of where we were as a club back then. That was the talent puddle we had to work with.
 
Yeah, Purslow was trying to sign Cole when Rafa was still there. Benitez didn't want him. Purslow also tried to tell Hodgson who he should sell. Purslow was a grade A wanker
 
Yeah, Purslow was trying to sign Cole when Rafa was still there. Benitez didn't want him. Purslow also tried to tell Hodgson who he should sell. Purslow was a grade A wanker
Purslow vetoed the plan to move our admin operations to the Liver Building because, when he went to check everything out, his hair got blown out of place when he was crossing the Strand. True story.
 
You don't think that one was down to the hobbling of our entire spine?

We haven't had great luck with injuries this year, but it's been nothing like that.

Yeah, there were huge issues that year that weren't usual, definitely some issues this year too. I don't think Slot should get as much leeway as Klopp did, but way more than Hodgson did.
 
Yeah, there were huge issues that year that weren't usual, definitely some issues this year too. I don't think Slot should get as much leeway as Klopp did, but way more than Hodgson did.

I think he's had a lot of leeway. Even in that klopp season, with all the injuries, I saw an actual progression and had a sense that things would clearly be better when the immediate situation was over.

In this series of results I see a team that can't be stable. Our form in the league is about as bad as it was when we imploded. I'm watching for the good stuff, I really am, but there's nothing convincing there. There's just a vague hope that maybe something could be changed around.

But, for me, the longer slot has been here, the worse we have looked.
 
I think he's had a lot of leeway. Even in that klopp season, with all the injuries, I saw an actual progression and had a sense that things would clearly be better when the immediate situation was over.

In this series of results I see a team that can't be stable. Our form in the league is about as bad as it was when we imploded. I'm watching for the good stuff, I really am, but there's nothing convincing there. There's just a vague hope that maybe something could be changed around.

But, for me, the longer slot has been here, the worse we have looked.

I'm not sure the last part is true? We've looked better the last two months or so, compared to the previous period since we won the league. Still a ways to go, and I'd like to see us getting the results to match too.

I think losing the likes of Trent, Diaz, Jota and to a lesser extent Nunez, as well as the injury to Isak(essentially got nothing from him so far) and injuries to Frimpong, and the likes of Wirtz and Kerkez taking so long to get up to speed, are at least as impactful as the difficulties Klopp had that year. Circumstances haven't been easy, not that we shouldn't be expecting or hoping for a lot more.


To be clear, I'm in the tombrown boat of, I can understand if they get rid but unconvinced either way, not in the, we definitely should or shouldn't get rid.
 
I'm not sure the last part is true? We've looked better the last two months or so, compared to the previous period since we won the league. Still a ways to go, and I'd like to see us getting the results to match too.

I think losing the likes of Trent, Diaz, Jota and to a lesser extent Nunez, as well as the injury to Isak(essentially got nothing from him so far) and injuries to Frimpong, and the likes of Wirtz and Kerkez taking so long to get up to speed, are at least as impactful as the difficulties Klopp had that year. Circumstances haven't been easy, not that we shouldn't be expecting or hoping for a lot more.


To be clear, I'm in the tombrown boat of, I can understand if they get rid but unconvinced either way, not in the, we definitely should or shouldn't get rid.

I don't think that's true. Yes, we've had repetitious injuries but losing all your first team cbs and then the midfielders that would sub in is far more impactful than the issues we've had.

We have seen much better attacking football in moments in the last couple months, but we are still mentally fragile and all sorts of teams score against us with alarming frequency, and our league form is worse, not better.

I see no evidence that we can play a stable sensible game and see out any sort of professional win in the league.
 
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