Yeah, but he was gesturing to the referee for a good 30 seconds after the incident. Surely the teammates and coaches could have picked up on that?
Karius concussion?
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Yeah, but he was gesturing to the referee for a good 30 seconds after the incident. Surely the teammates and coaches could have picked up on that?
But when do you chat to him unless he signals to you about it? It was a Champions League final. Each player had things to focus on, spaces to attack, opponents to follow.
Yes because he thought it was a foul like most people would, but in fact it isn't. He was reacting at that point like any keeper would. He'd just be made to look a right fool by his mistake.
Werent they on the pitch shortly after it happened? And checked him? If I'm mistaken then yes, you are correct.
After the goal I think VVD was talking to him. Chatting during setting up for set pieces etc.... If it was bad enough I'm pretty sure you'd pick up. On it. All players go through this training on concussion and picking up signs, they certainly did when I worked in sport even at junior level.
A keeper complaining to a ref? And the ref waves him away? Again, I don't see any players as culpable for not leaving their positions to ask him if he's concussed!
Liverpool goalkeeper Loris Karius suffered a concussion in the Champions League final against Real Madrid that may have impacted his performance, Massachusetts General Hospital confirmed on Monday.
Karius, 24, made two crucial mistakes which contributed to Real Madrid's 3-1 victory in Kiev after being floored in a collision with Madrid's Sergio Ramos while defending a corner prior to Madrid's first goal early in the second half.
Liverpool's medical team were concerned about the possibility of Karius suffering a concussion in the incident with Ramos, sources told ESPN FC, and their fears were confirmed in an examination carried out in the United States last Thursday -- five days after the final.
"After carefully reviewing game film and integrating a detailed history -- including his reported present and immediate post-contact subjective symptoms -- physical examination and objective metrics, we have concluded that Mr. Karius sustained a concussion during the match," Mass General said in a statement.
"At the time of our evaluation, Mr. Karius's principal residual symptoms and objective signs suggested that visual spatial dysfunction existed and likely occurred immediately following the event. Additional symptomatic and objectively noted areas of dysfunction also persisted. It could be possible that such deficits would affect performance."
Karius collided with Ramos in the 48th minute, and Real Madrid scored their first goal a little more than two minutes later when the goalkeeper tried to roll the ball out to a defender, only for Karim Benzema to stick out his boot and redirect the throw into the net.
Loris Karius looks dejected following Liverpool's Champions League final defeat against Real Madrid. Photo by Laurence Griffiths/Getty Images
The German then made a further error in the closing stages of the game, allowing a long-range effort from Gareth Bale to slip through his grasp to give Madrid a 3-1 lead.
Karius flew to the U.S. on holiday on his return to England, but with the club determined to safeguard the player's well-being, he was sent to Boston to visit a specialist -- Dr. Ross Zafonte -- at Mass General on May 31 at the behest of the Anfield medical team, rather than at the request of the goalkeeper, a source said.
"Karius has reported significant and steady improvement since the concussive event, and we expect him to make a full recovery based on the results of the examination," the doctor's statement added. "We expect that with treatment and by following prescribed activity protocols he will continue to improve. We have encouraged vigilance and an emphasis on safety in his eventual return to full activity."
Zafonte, who penned the statement together with Dr. Lenore Herget, is a leading authority on the treatment of NFL players who have suffered head trauma and Karius was sent to visit him following consultation with Liverpool's Boston-based owners, Fenway Sports Group.
Karius, meanwhile, has remained in the U.S. for a holiday in California and will return to Liverpool for preseason training on July 2.
Liverpool declined to comment when contacted by ESPN FC.
Karius, 24, made two crucial mistakes which contributed to Real Madrid's 3-1 victory in Kiev after being floored in a collision with Madrid's Sergio Ramos while defending a corner prior to Madrid's first goal early in the second half.
Liverpool's medical team were concerned about the possibility of Karius suffering a concussion in the incident with Ramos, sources told ESPN FC, and their fears were confirmed in an examination carried out in the United States last Thursday -- five days after the final.
"After carefully reviewing game film and integrating a detailed history -- including his reported present and immediate post-contact subjective symptoms -- physical examination and objective metrics, we have concluded that Mr. Karius sustained a concussion during the match," Mass General said in a statement.
"At the time of our evaluation, Mr. Karius's principal residual symptoms and objective signs suggested that visual spatial dysfunction existed and likely occurred immediately following the event. Additional symptomatic and objectively noted areas of dysfunction also persisted. It could be possible that such deficits would affect performance."
Karius collided with Ramos in the 48th minute, and Real Madrid scored their first goal a little more than two minutes later when the goalkeeper tried to roll the ball out to a defender, only for Karim Benzema to stick out his boot and redirect the throw into the net.
Loris Karius looks dejected following Liverpool's Champions League final defeat against Real Madrid. Photo by Laurence Griffiths/Getty Images
The German then made a further error in the closing stages of the game, allowing a long-range effort from Gareth Bale to slip through his grasp to give Madrid a 3-1 lead.
Karius flew to the U.S. on holiday on his return to England, but with the club determined to safeguard the player's well-being, he was sent to Boston to visit a specialist -- Dr. Ross Zafonte -- at Mass General on May 31 at the behest of the Anfield medical team, rather than at the request of the goalkeeper, a source said.
"Karius has reported significant and steady improvement since the concussive event, and we expect him to make a full recovery based on the results of the examination," the doctor's statement added. "We expect that with treatment and by following prescribed activity protocols he will continue to improve. We have encouraged vigilance and an emphasis on safety in his eventual return to full activity."
Zafonte, who penned the statement together with Dr. Lenore Herget, is a leading authority on the treatment of NFL players who have suffered head trauma and Karius was sent to visit him following consultation with Liverpool's Boston-based owners, Fenway Sports Group.
Karius, meanwhile, has remained in the U.S. for a holiday in California and will return to Liverpool for preseason training on July 2.
Liverpool declined to comment when contacted by ESPN FC.
That stupid cunt should already have been on his bike for getting Chamberlain to stand on his fucking completely banjaxed ligaments.
This reeks of bullshit.
And you wonder why Karius decided against signalling to the bench. The useless fuck would be in a coma today instead of enjoying his summer vacation.
Surely nobody saw the clash til after
Total bullshit. Just an excuse for Karius imo.
Concussed or not, you don't fucking roll the ball into an opponents foot.
If he was concussed why didn't he ask to be subbed? Don't medics do the eye test if they suspect concussion.
If he stayed in goal knowing he was dizzy he's an even bigger cunt in my book.
Concussed or not, you don't fucking roll the ball into an opponents foot.
If he was concussed why didn't he ask to be subbed? Don't medics do the eye test if they suspect concussion.
If he stayed in goal knowing he was dizzy he's an even bigger cunt in my book.
In fairness no player would want to come off in a CL final and in any case it's common for a concussed player to not realise it at the time
You see, that's the thing with a blow to the head, you don't always think straight. You know, on account of the blow to the head.
Either way Oblak is better so I'd prefer him in goal for us next season, not that I expect us to even try and sign him.
I'm not really that arsed. It just reopens the wound and further highlights the stuff that cunt, Ramos, got away with. It also further cements how shit Karius is that his performance wasn't that much of a surprise, with or without the concussion.
It’s not like he was knocked out, or even close to demonstrating a compromised balance. I suspect that everyone posting here has been hit in the head in some way harder than that, but then not gone on to be a stupid cunt.
Isnt that the whole point, that it was a surprise? Given that he had 0 personal mistakes in 32 games leading up to the final.
Agree with the first part though. Its better just to move on. We, and he, dont need for this to be given more ammo.
If they didn't, our analysts should be sacked.
Surely it was only later that a German TV channel found an angle and footage that started the speculation? It wasn't as if the normal feed showed anything, was it? The analysts don't get superior camera footage to the main feeds during a game (they sometimes do after, but not during - commercial broadcasters don't throw away interesting footage). This only started to be discussed after the match was over, surely? One can't rewrite history so as to suggest that all the analysts saw it as it happened and just sighed and dozed off.
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