Konate

[StevieM]

I think we might sell him but for a reduced fee?

Nah.

I’m firmly in the “less churn the better”.

I’d happily hang on to Robbo for another season if he wants it.

I’d sell either JoGo or Quansah IF they want to go and use the proceeds to bring in a youngish CB to backup the main two and I’d keep Konate, even if it means losing him on a free, because we’ll have enough going on breaking in Wirtz, 2 new FBs, No 2 keeper and potentially a No 9.

If we sell and replace 3 CBs then I think we’re handing the league momentum to Arsenal and giving City a boost in their rebuild.

 

[MomoWASright]

Defenders??????? Pfft. We’ve got Wirtz. We don’t need no damn defenders.

 

[Hansern]

@ptgorst regarding Konate’s contract: “I don’t think he’ll leave this summer. I think Liverpool will look to take a little bit of a Van Dijk and Salah chance on tying him down during the season.” “He was saying that talks had stepped up the previous week with his representative and the club. He seemed quite positive over the developments there, so let’s wait and see what happens with that one. I just can’t see him being sold now.”

Selling Quansah is also quite telling. Konate will sign a new deal imho.

 

[Fabio]

Selling Quansah is also quite telling. Konate will sign a new deal imho.

I don't think the 2 are related for me, other than Konate definitely wasn't going this summer. Slot didn't rate quansah, so probably was happy to tell Hughes to get him out for the most he could get. Ibou could still go on a free next year.

I could see the following happening

Quansah sold
We buy a young CB to replace him
Next season Ibou goes on a free
Guehi comes in on a free

 

[Hansern]

I don't think the 2 are related for me, other than Konate definitely wasn't going this summer. Slot didn't rate quansah, so probably was happy to tell Hughes to get him out for the most he could get. Ibou could still go on a free next year.

I could see the following happening

Quansah sold
We buy a young CB to replace him
Next season Ibou goes on a free
Guehi comes in on a free

Ibou signs a new deal for me. Telling journos talks are positive is a good sign

 

[Markeh]

did the talks not ‘collapse’ a few days ago? i struggle to keep up with the nonsense

 

[Modo]

Pay the man

 

[Hansern]

did the talks not ‘collapse’ a few days ago? i struggle to keep up with the nonsense

Tall Paul Gorst said positive

 

[mom]

Pay the man

Absolutely

 

[Judge Jules]

No, not "absolutely". We can't give any player - ANY player - whatever they demand regardless of our own valuation. I rate Konate, would much rather keep him here and would certainly support the right increase in wages, but we can't just allow the club to be held to ransom.

 

[Fabio]

Paying players what they want left Arsenal with a 290k a week havertz and a 250k a week Jesus around their neck.

We cannot ever go down that route. Konate is excellent, but VVD pay? Lets not be silly. We pay to our means and focus on performance related bonuses.

 

[darkstarexodus]

Pay the man within reason.

 

[the count]

Ibrahima Konaté disappointed with Liverpool contract offer as talks stall​

• Defender’s representatives pushing for higher basic wage
• Fears at Anfield over running down deal that ends in 2026

Ibrahima Konaté is stalling on signing a new deal at Liverpool, raising fears at the club that another key player could run down his contract after this summer’s departure of Trent Alexander-Arnold.

The French defender enters the final year of his deal next month and is understood to have rejected Liverpool’s initial offer of an extension.

Konaté’s contract talks were delayed by Liverpool’s focus on negotiating with Mohamed Salah and Virgil van Dijk last season, with both signing new two-year deals in April before re-signing the Dutchman’s defensive partner became the club’s priority. The 26-year-old is understood to be disappointed by the structure of Liverpool’s offer, with his representatives believed to be pushing for a higher basic wage after the offer was heavily based on meeting certain performance targets.

Failure to agree a new contract with Konaté before the end of the summer would leave Liverpool with a dilemma given the furore over Alexander-Arnold’s move to Real Madrid. Although Liverpool eventually banked £10m for Alexander-Arnold because of Madrid’s determination to sign him in time to play at the Club World Cup that fee is a fraction of his value.


Andy Robertson is also about to enter the final 12 months of his contract, with Liverpool willing to sell him to Atlético Madrid if the left-back wants to leave. The goalkeeper Caoimhín Kelleher joined Brentford in an £18m deal this month with one year left on his contract.

Liverpool plan to revive discussions with Konaté later in the summer but are adamant they will not be forced into overpaying. After a busy start to the transfer window during which Liverpool have done deals worth a combined £145.5m for Florian Wirtz and Jeremie Frimpong, Arne Slot’s central defensive options are the one remaining area of uncertainty.

 

[StevieM]

Ibrahima Konaté disappointed with Liverpool contract offer as talks stall​

• Defender’s representatives pushing for higher basic wage
• Fears at Anfield over running down deal that ends in 2026

Ibrahima Konaté is stalling on signing a new deal at Liverpool, raising fears at the club that another key player could run down his contract after this summer’s departure of Trent Alexander-Arnold.

The French defender enters the final year of his deal next month and is understood to have rejected Liverpool’s initial offer of an extension.

Konaté’s contract talks were delayed by Liverpool’s focus on negotiating with Mohamed Salah and Virgil van Dijk last season, with both signing new two-year deals in April before re-signing the Dutchman’s defensive partner became the club’s priority. The 26-year-old is understood to be disappointed by the structure of Liverpool’s offer, with his representatives believed to be pushing for a higher basic wage after the offer was heavily based on meeting certain performance targets.

Failure to agree a new contract with Konaté before the end of the summer would leave Liverpool with a dilemma given the furore over Alexander-Arnold’s move to Real Madrid. Although Liverpool eventually banked £10m for Alexander-Arnold because of Madrid’s determination to sign him in time to play at the Club World Cup that fee is a fraction of his value.


Andy Robertson is also about to enter the final 12 months of his contract, with Liverpool willing to sell him to Atlético Madrid if the left-back wants to leave. The goalkeeper Caoimhín Kelleher joined Brentford in an £18m deal this month with one year left on his contract.

Liverpool plan to revive discussions with Konaté later in the summer but are adamant they will not be forced into overpaying. After a busy start to the transfer window during which Liverpool have done deals worth a combined £145.5m for Florian Wirtz and Jeremie Frimpong, Arne Slot’s central defensive options are the one remaining area of uncertainty.

Interesting that the issue appears to be the structure of the deal as opposed to the overall value of the deal.

You’d hope that’s something that can be ironed out.

 

[the count]

Interesting that the issue appears to be the structure of the deal as opposed to the overall value of the deal.

You’d hope that’s something that can be ironed out.

As long as his desired terms doesn't differ significantly from others then it might be doable.
Most of our contracts seems to be loaded with incentive based payments and I doubt we want to depart from that too much

 

[Squiggles]

Impossible to know the ins and outs of course, but after all the bullshit around Trent, Salah and VVD's contracts, I am disappointed we can't wrap these things up quickly and decisively. It's becoming a theme and not a welcome one.

 

[Bradley]

His head has been turned already. Accept that he's gone on a free and get a decent replacement in now.

 

[Beamrider]

I don't think he's going to sign. The noises in that article make it sound like it's do'able, just switch the fixed / variable components and we're sorted. I think that's just noise. And my view is based on a feeling, and the feeling is that I don't think Ibou "gets" us. As much as he's a big personality and all that, he still feels like an outsider who has blended in, rather than someone who feels really at home here (in the way Ali, Virgil, Robbo and Mo do). He either gets the perfect deal or he does one. And we're not going to give him the perfect deal, that's not how negotiation works.

 

[Modo]

If this was football manager, I'd just ask him to sack his agent and then make a deal with the player directly.

 

[Frogfish]

Interesting that the issue appears to be the structure of the deal as opposed to the overall value of the deal.

You’d hope that’s something that can be ironed out.

AND a higher basic wage!

 

[Frogfish]

Impossible to know the ins and outs of course, but after all the bullshit around Trent, Salah and VVD's contracts, I am disappointed we can't wrap these things up quickly and decisively. It's becoming a theme and not a welcome one.

I'm assuming this is because we want to switch more to incentive based deals than high basic wages.

 

[Markeh]

in his defence this is the big contract the likes of diaz and harry kane fucked up, at 26/27 in football you want to be where you want to be and getting paid the amount you want.

but in the clubs defence he’s has some pretty injury riddled seasons so weighting money on appearances and such makes sense

 

[Woland]

I've always thought he was kinda average and gets too many muscle strains. I wouldn't be moving him on but I don't think he's top tier so he shouldn't be on top tier dough. I understand why Robbo is the fourth highest paid player, he was fucking brilliant when he signed that new deal. Konate wants more than that... What's the justification? He's good, but nah.

 

[Markeh]

I've always thought he was kinda average and gets too many muscle strains. I wouldn't be moving him on but I don't think he's top tier so he shouldn't be on top tier dough. I understand why Robbo is the fourth highest paid player, he was fucking brilliant when he signed that new deal. Konate wants more than that... What's the justification? He's good, but nah.

imo konate has these ridiculous games where he gets caught up in physical tussles and ignores the rest of his responsibilities. he’s also slow to reach peak after injury and has occasional mistakes.

but every so often he has a cracking performance that makes him look better than virgil, he even sticks a run of these performances together at times and looks top class.

if we had a settled squad and he was the only potential change i wouldn’t sweat losing him but the defence needs some continuity

 

[Glen C]

Sell him this summer. I've always said if he doesn't sign a new deal we should sell him before the transfer window ends. Fuck all this free shit.

 

[Hyena]

Good luck holding Hughes and Edwards to ransom...

 

[Mamma Mia]

He was instrumental in our title win. People forgot Virg wasn't rock solid. Ibou did just as much in my opinion.

 

[Fabio]

Hes absolutely a brilliant CB and still relatively young.

I wouldn't be in a hurry to wave him off

 

[Hansern]

Yeah, sign him up to a new contract. It will get done imho.

 

[binomial]

Pay the man within reason.

If it's true what he's asking for is 180-200k, then that's well within reason. It'll be disappointing if we're haggling over 30-50k

How much change is too much? I think your answer is going into next season with Virg as your only winning defender in that back 4.