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Similar tone to VVD. I believe we will give him what he wants
If he and his agent are still after raising his weekly wage from £80,000 to £200,000 at one fell swoop, I doubt we'll give him all of that. I rate him and would much prefer that he stays, but not at all costs.
I get you but he is asking for £10m a year which is what a £70m+ defender will ask for. Also, what are the other options we have? There aren't many CBs near Konate's level that will ask for £120k/week
Yeah, and he's 25 so this will likely be his biggest contract in his career. It will only go down as he approaches 30. Unless the Saudis eventually want him. So his agent will be asking for at least 200K. If we go looking for a player of his calibre that will not only be the going rate but we'd need a massive transfer fee on top of that.
Will Konate settle for 150-160, that’s the question. I recon PSG can easily pay him 200+.
With so much churn thats expected in the summer we can't afford to let a player that on his day is one of the best in his position . Diaz, we can have a take it leave, and sell him if he doesn't and hopefully het an upgrade
Konate has shown this season that he can largely get through a campaign without frequent injuries, and he's displayed greater consistency and leadership. I believe we need to come close to meeting his demands. Quality centre-back partnerships are hard to come by, and there’s already enough to manage without unsettling a successful formula.
We’ve got two years to make the most of players like Salah, Van Dijk, and to a lesser extent, Alisson, while our rivals are still catching up. This doesn’t feel like the right time to rock the boat—transitions should only happen where absolutely necessary. The challenge is PSG pay their CBs close to 300k a week and they could comfortably afford that, especially if he were to go on a free next year. On principal we should extend but if PSG start throwing spanners into the negotiations then we may need to put other plans in place, sadly.
We’ve got two years to make the most of players like Salah, Van Dijk, and to a lesser extent, Alisson, while our rivals are still catching up. This doesn’t feel like the right time to rock the boat—transitions should only happen where absolutely necessary. The challenge is PSG pay their CBs close to 300k a week and they could comfortably afford that, especially if he were to go on a free next year. On principal we should extend but if PSG start throwing spanners into the negotiations then we may need to put other plans in place, sadly.
If the club don't see it now, they'll soon come to their senses once they start looking for alternatives and quoted 60-70m.
Renewing him not only saves money in the long run but it also increases his worth for other teams if they want to buy. If he's on 80-85k, double it and the rest in incentivised up to 220k or something.
Club should really bin off the cunt and get me in.
Renewing him not only saves money in the long run but it also increases his worth for other teams if they want to buy. If he's on 80-85k, double it and the rest in incentivised up to 220k or something.
Club should really bin off the cunt and get me in.
As the team with one of the highest wage bills in the Premier League and in world football I am not quite sure that we are low balling too many of our players let alone the best ones.
Maybe that is a question for @Beamrider
I think we are a reflection of the current economy. There’s a lot of money being paid to the fewest right at the very top.
Chiesa, Jota and Darwin account for 430k per week. Played 45 games in total for us this season.
We can definitely spend our money more wisely. Extending Bradley and Konate should be a priority.
That’ll be gobbled up by their replacements. We also have others like Bradley, Jones, Elliott, Diaz, Gakpo, Szoboszlai and Mac Allister also eying up big pay rises too.
Only 3 teams have paid more than £1bn in wages over the last three years (based on the accounts up to 2023-24). We're one of them, and we've paid out more than any other club over that period.
That was before dishing out a pay-rise to Ibou, and that's why we're desperate to keep those numbers down, because they are out of hand.
For the record:
LFC £1,125m
Man Utd £1,092m
Chelsea £1,082m
Man City £779m (insert your own cynicism here)
Arsenal £768m
Spurs £682m
Villa £583m
Newcastle £575m
Everton £478m
West Ham £429m
NB - some of those figures will include sackings of former managers which can add tens of millions each if the contracts still had a long way to run.
That was before dishing out a pay-rise to Ibou, and that's why we're desperate to keep those numbers down, because they are out of hand.
For the record:
LFC £1,125m
Man Utd £1,092m
Chelsea £1,082m
Man City £779m (insert your own cynicism here)
Arsenal £768m
Spurs £682m
Villa £583m
Newcastle £575m
Everton £478m
West Ham £429m
NB - some of those figures will include sackings of former managers which can add tens of millions each if the contracts still had a long way to run.
What's going on here? Seems like we don't have that big a squad, or even really that many big stars, although maybe I'm taking us for granted there. To be £350m beyond Arsenal seems extraordinary. Maybe we have a lot more older players? Or are paying out huge bonuses for trophy wins?
Those are full fat numbers Peter, so they include staff as well. The extent to which teams carry out commercial functions in-house can have a big effect on the staff figures. Arsenal is a bit of a false comparison as in 2 of the 3 years they didn't do all of their catering and retail etc. in-house but it looks like they do now - their 2023-24 figure (£328m, up from £235m the year before) is now more comparable with ours (£386m). United have always been similar. But at most the other clubs will be £100m or so light over the three years on a like-for-like comparison with us, and the figures will be much smaller for the clubs with lesser commercial operations. Man Utd are, and always have been, a fair, like-for-like comparison. God knows what Chelsea do, they go so far out of their way to hide it.
It seems to me the hardest part is just trying to manage the seniority of the squad, as players get older and they get gradually better and more expensive in terms of salary but less valuable (in terms of potential fees) and then sometimes very suddenly decline when they're on huge wages and therefore worth nothing overnight.
It must be a nightmare trying to manage all those factors. The Saudis basically let us off the hook back in 2023.
Are the stats on player salary only available anywhere as far as you know? Seems like including commercial operations muddies the water significantly and makes apples-to-apples comparisons impossible.
Not publicly. Clubs aren't required to disclose them so they don't. The only way you could do a guesstimate would be by also looking at staff numbers. They do break down employee numbers between football, admin etc, and that's how I know Arsenal brought stuff in house as their staff numbers went up massively last year, as did their turnover (which is why they did it, as it makes complying with the UEFA rules easier).
Not related to your question, but to explain, if you do catering outsourced, you basically get a commission from the provider which goes to turnover. This is probably a fairly small percentage of their turnover - 10-20%. If you do it in-house, the full amount goes to turnover, plus you incur the wage and other costs and keep all the profit. That's why we've always done it in-house, but you do need to have the proper management structure in place etc.
It also includes trophy winning bonuses, right? So Arse have made a good saving there
On the back of doing really well on the field, it should be reflected with mega bonuses off the pitch.
So I expect a record breaking sales of merch, we know non-season ticket holders will probably 10% more for ticket prices. Sponsorship deals too should be voluminous and more lucrative than ever before especially from Asia. Going forward I am expecting wages to drop as a % of revenue.
I could be talking horse shit, as I am basing my comments on winning the PL and none of the above happen
So I expect a record breaking sales of merch, we know non-season ticket holders will probably 10% more for ticket prices. Sponsorship deals too should be voluminous and more lucrative than ever before especially from Asia. Going forward I am expecting wages to drop as a % of revenue.
I could be talking horse shit, as I am basing my comments on winning the PL and none of the above happen
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