You’d think we’d play hardball on this one. Good.
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You’d think we’d play hardball on this one. Good.
I like Diaz. He brings a quality no one else in our forward line has - he can beat his man with trickery. Lose that from the team and a dimension is lost.
There is a great argument that we will have two attacking fullbacks next year, and that will be a big departure already from the season just gone. But Diaz was reliable for us and put in some big performances. I'd rather we got rid of Jota & Nunez as priority before selling one of the players who is actually good.
There is a great argument that we will have two attacking fullbacks next year, and that will be a big departure already from the season just gone. But Diaz was reliable for us and put in some big performances. I'd rather we got rid of Jota & Nunez as priority before selling one of the players who is actually good.
He has 3 options, its his choice. If barca and al-hilal make an offer or stay.
Gakpo had the same G/A as Diaz over the season but with 700 mins less played.
I like Diaz, but its the right time to sell. IF the price is right.
But then we are left very light. One injury to Gakpo and we're down to Jota (if he doesn't leave) or Rio from the academy.
We won't sell him without replacing him. Its the potential replacement that the X factor obviously.
Its the right move financially and in terms of squad planning to sell him for 70 mill £ +. Soon to be 29 and 2 years left in his deal.
Before Gakpo was injured and became a crappy version of himself in 2nd half of the season, Gakpo was preferred option on the left from what I remember. He was scoring important goals and more consistent performer. Pretty sure, he will start on LW if fit for the 1st game.
I've never quite understood some of the stick / lack of support Diaz gets from some posters on here.
Yes, a bit more end product would be nice. But the lad works his nuts off, isn't afraid to take on opponents and when he does score it's often a break-through goal rather than a stat-padding 5th in a 5-0 win. He's also a player who adds a bit of excitement to the game - I love watching him.
If there's an opportunity to upgrade or if he's not going to sign a new deal and we risk losing him on a free then I'm OK with selling, but I'd much rather give him a new deal and stick with what we've got. In those games where Mo is anonymous, he's our outlet. I like Gakpo, but he drifts in and out of the game, Diaz is always offering an outlet.
And as an aside, a mate of mine went to a function at Kirkby when Diaz was out with that long-term injury, and they had a tour of the facilities, including the players' gym. Diaz was there and was absolutely killing himself on the treadmill trying to get fit to return to the team. You can't teach that kind of motivation and attitude. You want to motivate Diaz for a game you select him in the starting XI. That's all you need to do, he's already up for it and desperate to get out there.
Yes, a bit more end product would be nice. But the lad works his nuts off, isn't afraid to take on opponents and when he does score it's often a break-through goal rather than a stat-padding 5th in a 5-0 win. He's also a player who adds a bit of excitement to the game - I love watching him.
If there's an opportunity to upgrade or if he's not going to sign a new deal and we risk losing him on a free then I'm OK with selling, but I'd much rather give him a new deal and stick with what we've got. In those games where Mo is anonymous, he's our outlet. I like Gakpo, but he drifts in and out of the game, Diaz is always offering an outlet.
And as an aside, a mate of mine went to a function at Kirkby when Diaz was out with that long-term injury, and they had a tour of the facilities, including the players' gym. Diaz was there and was absolutely killing himself on the treadmill trying to get fit to return to the team. You can't teach that kind of motivation and attitude. You want to motivate Diaz for a game you select him in the starting XI. That's all you need to do, he's already up for it and desperate to get out there.
I can understand all that. For me, I don't enjoy watching Diaz simply because more often than not it ends up with a poor cross or a poor shot. Tbh to me he's more like doku without the benefit of being 5 years younger. Who gives a shit if he rips a fullback to shreds when you know he's going to do fuck all with it. There's no inevitability about Diaz. It almost feels a surprise when he does score or assist
This is his peak. And his peak is meh. At least Salah seems inevitable when playing shite. Diaz isn't.
Yes he works his bollocks off, but so did Lucas. Yes, he does some lovely tricks, but he's nowhere near bobby electricity.
He's an effective player at times. If he stays, fine. If he goes, then it's perfect business sense (providing we have a replacement lined up)
I'm somewhat ambivalent.
I think Diaz is a good player. He's probably the best of the rest and we're better off keeping him but if he's not going to renew and a big offer is on the cards, it probably makes sense to sell now from a squad building perspective.
Nunez and Jota should be first out the door though.
I think Diaz is a good player. He's probably the best of the rest and we're better off keeping him but if he's not going to renew and a big offer is on the cards, it probably makes sense to sell now from a squad building perspective.
Nunez and Jota should be first out the door though.
Now that’s a pay up or move on if I ever saw one.
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They’ll pay on the never never like coutinho.
Which is exactly why we should tell them to jog on.
Even if he's on low wages just letting him go for nothing would surely make his final two years exorbitantly expensive, right? Missing out on a fee would equate to like £30m a year.
We won't get a fee from that bunch of chisellers though. He's a useful member of the squad and we'd still be paying the bulk of his wages, so in the circs.I'd have thought the best value we can get from him is to keep him and his contribution handy for the period involved.
Does anyone think if we force him to stay that he will down tools in terms of his performances and effort ? - I don't think he will perform, and as he is quite good at carrying the ball and losing it on the occasion he has great cover to fuck it up and none of us would be any wiser - we would be like "....ah look he tried the fun dribbling shit and unfortunately lost it.. but great try Lucho...we love a trier"
He puts a shift in every single time he plays for us so no, I don't think he's the kind of player or the kind of professional to down tools. As for the rest of that rubbish above:
Is it really true that Barcelona just don't pay for their transfers? Like, aren't there contracts involved?
Maybe there were some problems collecting the Coutinho debt in some respects, but the idea that they just never pay at all seems pretty fanciful.
Yeah - but @Judge Jules - I am not sure in this case - if he is being paid based on what the rumours are, then it is appalling given the premiums paid to wingers - he is one of the worlds best in those positions regardless of how much we rate him, others in South America / Spain rate him higher in my view plus his versatility. If say we sell both Nunez and Jota - then we can replace just Nunez with another striker and Diaz can be used to sub Cody plus also used centrally where he has had his best games this season.
They might pay some of it, but you can bet (a) it won't be the whole fee - we sold the debt on to a third party who have STILL not received the balance outstanding - and (b) we'll still be paying the lion's share of the wages all the while.
