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Shame on you Oncy!

He was great for 3 years. Our best player for most of that time too.

Which one and a half seasons were you talking about?
I wasnt really mate, I was paraphrasing the opinions of Messrs Murray, Murphy and Thompson.
 
It says it all when they start a midfielder up front in a Champions league game.

Says more about Mourinho IMO. Torres is no longer the player he was, but Mourinho had all his glory or excuse speech all written up before the game. Win and it's tactical ingenuity. Lose and it's his useless strikers making him play a setup that was designed to try and get a point.
 
Deviating slightly from the topic but will Eto'o still be injured when we play them?
 
He's fucked both mentally and physically and I doubt he'll ever become even a 15 goal a season striker again.

He was good at am without goals, he was good with us with goals and now he's rubbish without goals at Chelsea.

We can't take him back as he needs to play every week to gain his shattered confidence back.

Nandos is muck btw and never give enough chicken
 
Sorry I am going to dive in with a view that has been done before, I think he lost it as soon as he realized what he had done and the hate it created from people that had believed in and loved him. I remember I am sure a press conference just after he signed and he looked so uncomfortable and unhappy. Yes he has had injuries, but I would have him back in flash. Can you ever see Rodgers talking down his players the way mourinho has been? Anyway that is my annual football post done, back to lurking.
 
I'd have him back if just for pity's sake. However, the poor fuck is so cursed that it could hinder our otherwise inevitable run of league trophies.
 
Sorry I am going to dive in with a view that has been done before, I think he lost it as soon as he realized what he had done and the hate it created from people that had believed in and loved him. I remember I am sure a press conference just after he signed and he looked so uncomfortable and unhappy. Yes he has had injuries, but I would have him back in flash. Can you ever see Rodgers talking down his players the way mourinho has been? Anyway that is my annual football post done, back to lurking.

Given a message count of 110, that's impressive longevity.
 
I have posted in general chat a bit more often, after I typed that I knew it would be picked up! Can't watch enough football to keep up in here.
 
I have posted in general chat a bit more often, after I typed that I knew it would be picked up! Can't watch enough football to keep up in here.

How do you feel now you've posted twice in one year? In one day no less!

Breaking records like Moyes
 
Torres is a cynical little shit. Any other top striker would have had too much pride to put up with being a bit part player, but he genuinely seems to be delighted to pick up his medal and join in with the celebrations after doing next to nothing to deserve it. The reports keep painting him as in some kind of turmoil, but what kind of player would spend three years meekly on the periphery of a big club whilst his reputation is torn apart before his eyes? He couldn't give a damn.
 
Torres is a cynical little shit. Any other top striker would have had too much pride to put up with being a bit part player, but he genuinely seems to be delighted to pick up his medal and join in with the celebrations after doing next to nothing to deserve it. The reports keep painting him as in some kind of turmoil, but what kind of player would spend three years meekly on the periphery of a big club whilst his reputation is torn apart before his eyes? He couldn't give a damn.
Are you talking about Torres or Owen?
 
At least Owen left Real Madrid when he realised he wasn't ever going to be a key player. By the time he went to the mancs he was close to being finished anyway. Torres has wasted what should have been the prime of his career, sitting on a laminated bench.
 
[quote="C/O, post: 1095110, member: about myHow do you feel now you've posted twice in one year? In one day no less!

Breaking records like Moyes[/quote]


Thanks for that, feel much better about myself now. Not posting here again after being compared to Moyes. Bastards the lot of you.
 
At least Owen left Real Madrid when he realised he wasn't ever going to be a key player. By the time he went to the mancs he was close to being finished anyway. Torres has wasted what should have been the prime of his career, sitting on a laminated bench.

He's played a 100 odd times for them, I think you've understandabley assumed he has been on the bench from the fact he has only scored goals once in a while.
 
No, he's come on as sub, he's often been subbed, he's not been a regular starter. You sound like his agent, but the bare stats disguise to some extent what a poor time he's had there.
 
I just checked and oddly his appearances stats pretty much match his second and third seasons with us starting around 20 games a season.

Injuries have not been kind to poor 'ol Nando.
 
I doubt he's that bothered. He's paid regularly and his mates win him trophies. It's what he wants from life.
 
At least Owen left Real Madrid when he realised he wasn't ever going to be a key player. By the time he went to the mancs he was close to being finished anyway. Torres has wasted what should have been the prime of his career, sitting on a laminated bench.


Your point doesn't stand up. If he was in the prime of his career, he wouldn't have been sitting on the bench.
 
Ha Mourihno cannot stop digging him out can he. From the Grauniad

MOURINHO: TORRES HAS A (TRANSLATION: NO) FUTURE

Back in the days before the internet, and Twitter, and the Fiver, and hundreds of up-to-the-minute sport sites all saying exactly the same thing, the only place to get regular football news throughout the day in the UK was BBC Radio 2. It was a fine service, though there were two major problems with it. Firstly, the steady stream of info was regularly interspersed by the relentless spinning of When You're In Love With A Beautiful Woman by Dr Hook (think the social politics of Robin Thicke, kids, discussed by a gentleman wearing an unwashed denim shirt and eyepatch) and Shaddap You Face, the Joe Dolce Music Theatre's heartwarming study of racial and intergenerational tolerance. Secondly, and even more irritating, was the almost constant wailing that accompanied the signal. Wooooooo. Waaaaaaaaaaaa. Waa. Waa. Woo. Wooooooooowaaaaaaaaaoooooooooaaaoooyayayayaya.
The sports news was moved off the station in late 1990, hoicked over to the new Radio 5. The last league champions of this idiosyncratic era in sports broadcasting, then, were Liverpool. So with the Merseysiders currently in with a shout of landing their first title since those halcyon times of yore, perhaps that's the reason José Mourinho has taken to conducting his recent press conferences solely via the medium of loud, ear-splitting whine. Perhaps with Liverpool doing relatively well again, he's making a witty stylistic reference to that bygone era, an homage to the way the British national broadcaster used to organise its affairs three decades ago, hung on the peg of something that probably won't happen again anyway, not after Brendan Rodgers' side lose to the inevitable late goal off the back of Andy Carroll's confused head this Sunday. Perhaps it's that! Because he surely can't be expecting us to take this constant whelping regarding poor little Chelsea's lack of strikers seriously. There's far-fetched, and then there's the truly ridiculous.
But sure enough, Fernando Torres came up in conversation this afternoon, with the forward preparing to line up against Stoke City tomorrow with an embarrassed look on his big red face. Does José believe the £50m world and European champion is up to the job of maintaining plucky Chelsea's unlikely title challenge? "He has had moments in his time at the club and I believe in these moments," oscillated Mourinho in a register 19 octaves above middle C, on 433 and 330 metres medium wave, before adding pointedly "until the end of the season". Directly contradicting himself immediately, as is his wont, because he really couldn't care less what any of us think, Mourinho then insisted that "yes, Torres has a future", going on to list his positive attributes. "He's a good professional in training, and, er, in his social life," were the first two bullet points on a list which quickly became a game struggle to compile. "And when he's on the pitch he tries to do his best."
Tries to do his best! Rarely has a Premier League manager damned one of his own players with patronising faint praise like this. It's a wonder Mourinho managed to stop himself before ruffling Torres's hair and giving him some money to spend at the sweetie shop for being a good boy, like he's six years of age. Which at least would fit in with today's paean to 1990, if nothing else.
 
I guess you don't understand the word 'should'. Never mind.


'Should' but for what? Owen was never going to get the opportunities at Real no matter how well he did. Torres got plenty of opportunities at Chelsea no matter how badly he did. Him not being in his prime had nothing to do with being at Chelsea.
 
"Him not being in his prime had nothing to do with being at Chelsea." Too many negatives in there to make much sense. I don't even know what point to which it is a response. Moving on.
 
LOL yeah focus on the quality of the English.

You're fucking pathetic once someone seriously challenges a point you make.
 
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