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Deserved to win based on our second half performance.

We still have a long way to go but basically a slack bit of defending and/or goalkeeping cost us 3 points because apart from the goal, they offered fuck all and came for the point.

I don't like to see Suarez up top by himself. He's no centre forward by any means. We badly need Carroll to come good and lead the line.
 
We controlled most of the game and I was pleased with our response to their goal. We didn't look to hang on, but pressed hard for the win.
 
I have a problem with Downing's performance today.

WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO TODAY APART FROM LAST MINUTE CROSS TO HENDERSON??? Please someone explain to me.
 
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I have a problem with Downing's performance today.

WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO TODAY APART FROM LAST MINUTE CROSS TO HENDERSON??? Please someone explain to me.


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HUH ?
 
with gerrard back its nice to see the midfield looking pretty solid and bar the defensive error that led to their goal i think it was a good all round performance. the team look like they are starting to play well together. i do think that we need to finish our chances more often but that's my only real concern
 
we had more possesion and more shots on goal and yes there was contact on charlie so this us being lucky is nonsense.
 
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[quote author=The_Rule link=topic=47185.msg1412556#msg1412556 date=1318702638]
I have a problem with Downing's performance today.

WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO TODAY APART FROM LAST MINUTE CROSS TO HENDERSON??? Please someone explain to me.


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HUH ?
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Its simply not worth it.
 
okay, finally home:




1. suarez really has to learn to stop going back for 'seconds'
the ball fell kindly to him he took the ball inside completely beating (evans?) shoot! SHOOT!!
but no, opted to take another turn at which time the goalie had made himself big.
suarez actually did that in another game, turned the player twice but when I thought the chance had gone he scored near post.

2. carroll can feel a little hard done by
chin up andy, you've been improving steadily, don't let your head drop.

3. adam looks so much better in a CM three it's not even funny.
I thought he was excellent in this game and his runs from deep had manu all over the place.
rio should have gone for his challenge on adam and I think the controversy of the last sending off against liverpool played on the ref's mind.

4. henderson
there's something about this guy and I think we'll have a player if we can coach that latent talent out of him. that lob was excellent and showed good aweness, I don't even think he is looking at goal when he attempts it. should have buried the free header though.

5. I thought downing was pretty 'meh' during the early part of the game but finished the game like a train, the cross for henderson (and kuyt?) were excellent. can't blame him for our profligacy in front of goal.

6. gerrard looks like he has never been away but I hold my breath every time he goes down after a challenge. great goal.

7. sloppy goal, we seem to have gone back to man marking so ffs PICK UP YOUR MAN.
had manu had an attack of note until the goal? annoying in the extreme.

8. enrique
I think he is excellent, his control pace and strengh are superb. park and young didn't have a sniff despite both having a crack at him.

very annoying that manu came and got the point they were looking for, I was pleased we went for the win rather than settling for a point when manu equalised.
 
We obvs not scoring enough goals, 11 in 8 isnt good enough.
Loads of chances today that should have been coverted.

Still, it was a positive dispaly that shows we're not to far from the top. Its only consistency and getting results against the so called weaker teams that we really need to achieve.

Last season Utd scored the most goals by players coming off the bench, the most headed goals and scored the most goals in the last 10 mins of the game. Insane.

De Gea has actually the most saves in the league now, thats normally a stat topped by one of lower placed clubs.
 
Utd's defence isn't very good this season and if they play like that against City they'll get ripped a new one.

We were the better side overall and should've won the game, but yeah we're not scoring enough and I'm not sure that we're creating enough clear cut chances. We don't really have someone that's devastatingly clinical (like Torres was a couple seasons back) so we need to create more.
 
1. The ref got everything spot on except the Ferdinand challenge, he should have went if he blew for a foul.


2. After our goal we backed off, and backed off, and backed off... You can't do that against that Utd team.


3. Kelly was a monster again vs Young, what a performance.


4. Henderson should have buried that header.


5. I can't wait to see Suarez and Gerrard link up properly.


6. Adam had his best game for us today.
 
Yeah, Kelly was excellent. He and Adam were our best players. I thought Lucas was shite today tbh.
 
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We obvs not scoring enough goals, 11 in 8 isnt good enough.
Loads of chances today that should have been coverted.

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this is something i was thinking also when it was 0-0 and a few other times this season .....who in the team has goals in them ? Suarez, Gerrard & in fairness kuyt ....after that i'm not so sure . Carroll obviously you would hope can contribute but that's looked a little unreliable. Downing , henderson, lucas offer little if nothing , i doubt any of them will get more than 2-3 goals this season . Adam maybe 5 or so . And that's about it ...not enough for my liking .
 
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3. adam looks so much better in a CM three it's not even funny.
I thought he was excellent in this game and his runs from deep had manu all over the place.
rio should have gone for his challenge on adam and I think the controversy of the last sending off against liverpool played on the ref's mind.

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I've been going on about this for a while. Put Lucas and one other willing tackler alongside him and he'll flourish. His undoubted strong points (offensive passing) demand it and his obvious weaknesses (mobility, fitness) make it necessary. The only problem is that a 4-3-3/4-5-1 gives us a problem with Carroll.
 
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We kind of just expect quality from Kelly now, don't we? First choice RB all day, every day.
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I don't to be honest. Don't get me wrong i think he's a solid enough player, but not as good as what a lot of Liverpool fans think.

I just don't think he has enough class on the ball to be a top class full back.
He could very well become a centre half one day though, but i don't think he's ready for that either.
 
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I've been drinking heavily but Kuyt got on my tits today.
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He was crap. Poor control as normal but lack of tracking back. Also he kept coming inside instead of releasing the ball.
 
Yep, I think Vlad was proven completely correct today. Not that I haven't agreed with him all along.
 
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[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=47185.msg1412600#msg1412600 date=1318710615]
We kind of just expect quality from Kelly now, don't we? First choice RB all day, every day.
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I don't to be honest. Don't get me wrong i think he's a solid enough player, but not as good as what a lot of Liverpool fans think.

I just don't think he has enough class on the ball to be a top class full back.
He could very well become a centre half one day though, but i don't think he's ready for that either.
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I agree that CB is his future, I think most would agree.
I'm not saying he is a natural full back either Gary, im just saying that a) for 19 years of age some of his performances are mighty and b) he is better for the team than Johnson.
 
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[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=47185.msg1412601#msg1412601 date=1318710956]
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=47185.msg1412600#msg1412600 date=1318710615]
We kind of just expect quality from Kelly now, don't we? First choice RB all day, every day.
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I don't to be honest. Don't get me wrong i think he's a solid enough player, but not as good as what a lot of Liverpool fans think.

I just don't think he has enough class on the ball to be a top class full back.
He could very well become a centre half one day though, but i don't think he's ready for that either.
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I agree that CB is his future, I think most would agree.
I'm not saying he is a natural full back either Gary, im just saying that a) for 19 years of age some of his performances are mighty and b) he is better for the team than Johnson.
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Kelly is 21 mate but yeah, still young and learning the game.

I do think he has the makings to be a good player, he's athletic and reads the play well. Just think he has some serious limitations which are evident.

Agree that he's better than Johnson, no doubt about that.
 
Yup. Dirk was absolute cunt today

Hes in his pre-december slump
 
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