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Ahh ok, i dont wanna be an a-hole here so basically my point was...

Look how did Spurs turn out. All that Bale money spent on "quality" and so what ?

The only reason they are on a streak is cos of a reject of a player had just been given his 2nd chance, banging them goals saving their arse. And he wasn't even bought with any of that Bale money.

Some ppl just don't get it. Money is no guarantee for success. There's so many other factors involved in building a successful team. Team and social dynamics, whether the player fit the team tactics, his attitude, personality, does he have character and fight in him ?, his adaptability to the culture and new teammates, etc.

Look at the Galacticos.
Look at Chelsea (without Mourinho)
Look at Man City

Still struggling to win the titles that they thought that sort of money would have won them easily

I'll say it again....MONEY DON'T BUY YOU SUCCESS. It will give you a better chance than many but there's no guarantees.
 
Suso apparently saying he should extend and go out on loan again next season, so guessing he wont be part of the squad.
 
I also wouldn't be surprised to see Alberto go out on loan. The general idea of Rodgers seems to be to want players to experience Melwood/ LFC etc first before sending them out on loan (e.g. Ilori, Assaidi etc) and I think that could happen with Alberto. He would be great in a team like Southampton IMO.
 
Ahh ok, i dont wanna be an a-hole here so basically my point was...

Look how did Spurs turn out. All that Bale money spent on "quality" and so what ?

The only reason they are on a streak is cos of a reject of a player had just been given his 2nd chance, banging them goals saving their arse. And he wasn't even bought with any of that Bale money.

Some ppl just don't get it. Money is no guarantee for success. There's so many other factors involved in building a successful team. Team and social dynamics, whether the player fit the team tactics, his attitude, personality, does he have character and fight in him ?, his adaptability to the culture and new teammates, etc.

Look at the Galacticos.
Look at Chelsea (without Mourinho)
Look at Man City

Still struggling to win the titles that they thought that sort of money would have won them easily

I'll say it again....MONEY DON'T BUY YOU SUCCESS. It will give you a better chance than many but there's no guarantees.



My mate who's a spurs season ticket holder tells me this is only because his contract is up in the summer that he's now being arsed, apparently he's done this before.
 
Surprised some are ready to write off Wisdom. He's a young player with a lot of pedigree - played for England throughout the age groups, now the u21 captain, by all accounts doing very well for a decent Derby side.

My only slight concern about him is that I think he'd surely be better as a centre half, yet all his first team experience has been at right back. Hopefully we can find him a loan where he'll play centrally - same as Ilori - and they can then both come in after next season to challenge for the first team.


I'd definitely sign two attacking players, though. Hopefully Konoplyanka, and a striker. Our back up options to SASAS right now are pitifully weak - almost non-existent - so we already need much better, and will more so with (finger crossed) CL football next season.
 
Keep all 4 CB's, buy 2 fullbacks, a defensive midfielder, a attacking midfielder, striker(only if we're selling borini) and a winger (Konoplyanka). I'd love to see Teixeira and suso implemented into the squad next season.
 
Surprised some are ready to write off Wisdom. He's a young player with a lot of pedigree - played for England throughout the age groups, now the u21 captain, by all accounts doing very well for a decent Derby side.

My only slight concern about him is that I think he'd surely be better as a centre half, yet all his first team experience has been at right back. Hopefully we can find him a loan where he'll play centrally - same as Ilori - and they can then both come in after next season to challenge for the first team.


I'd definitely sign two attacking players, though. Hopefully Konoplyanka, and a striker. Our back up options to SASAS right now are pitifully weak - almost non-existent - so we already need much better, and will more so with (finger crossed) CL football next season.

Many people including yours truly had also written off Flanagan and, yet, look!
 
Yep, I'd have sold Flanno a couple of months ago too, but now, he's the best fullback at the club.
 
Many people including yours truly had also written off Flanagan and, yet, look!


Well I always preach patience with youngsters but even I thought Flanagan was done for. It's worth remembering that he was only at the club because so few teams were interested in loaning him.

You could make a case for Wisdom, Robinson, Smith, Coady, Teixeira, and Suso all being more promising than him, just among that 20-21 age group. Obv they won't all make it, but I wouldn't write any of them off either.
 
I see Flanagan as a decent squad option. I'm not yet convinced that he's good enough to be a regular for a top 4 side.
I definitely got it wrong so did most here. Brendan didn't even rate him.
He's still young but he's got a long way to go before I can consider him to be as good as some of the right backs we've had in the past. Like Finnan and Arbeloa.
Flanagan can defend but he still doesn't offer enough going forward.
 
John O'Shea and Wes Brown won several titles and they were shite.

Flanagan is at least as good as those two. Ideal to have local squad players who will give their all even if not starting
 
I think we're going to need 2 new first choice fullbacks for next season if Flanno isn't one of them. Johnson/Enrique/Cissokho aren't good enough and should really be all shipped out. Don't wanna get lumbered with Johnson on a reina-style contract either.
Keep Flanno/McLaughlin/Kelly as backup hopefully to break in as first choice.
 
John O'Shea and Wes Brown won several titles and they were shite.

Flanagan is at least as good as those two. Ideal to have local squad players who will give their all even if not starting
So you're basically saying that Flanno is shit?
I'm sorry but Brown and O'Shea weren't shit. I remember a time when. He was preferred to Carra for England by some.
 
So you're basically saying that Flanno is shit?
I'm sorry but Brown and O'Shea weren't shit. I remember a time when. He was preferred to Carra for England by some.

Well they were hardly next level players were they?

There were better players than those but they did their jobs well
 
Flanagan can defend but he still doesn't offer enough going forward.

Partially disagree. I think he is very good at making the right runs and taking up good positions when we attack. His crossing/ final ball sometimes needs some work but this can be worked on. His natural instinct going forwards impresses me for a young RB and I think as that improves, he will cement that place on the right (or left, if we buy a RB).
 
Partially disagree. I think he is very good at making the right runs and taking up good positions when we attack. His crossing/ final ball sometimes needs some work but this can be worked on. His natural instinct going forwards impresses me for a young RB and I think as that improves, he will cement that place on the right (or left, if we buy a RB).
Well then you haven't seen McLaughlin
 
Well then you haven't seen McLaughlin

Correct - I haven't seen him play. Looking forward to doing so as there is a lot of hype but at the moment Flanno is the one being trusted to step up and he is far from being a weak link in the team.
 
that's my fucking point! I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing or what
What I'm saying is that I agree that they're not exactly world class but they were better than Flanagan is now. We're talking about two players with bigger medal cabinets than Gerrard. They do deserve some respect despite being scum.
Having local lads is beneficial but it can only take you so far, you need some talent as well.
 
I see Flanagan as a decent squad option. I'm not yet convinced that he's good enough to be a regular for a top 4 side.
I definitely got it wrong so did most here. Brendan didn't even rate him.
He's still young but he's got a long way to go before I can consider him to be as good as some of the right backs we've had in the past. Like Finnan and Arbeloa.
Flanagan can defend but he still doesn't offer enough going forward.

I think we look more solid defensively because of the fact he's not that good going forward. We have so many players bombing forward that its good that flanno stays back. I always find we're too exposed with both enrique and johnson bombing forward all the time.
 
Priority next season in order:
- CM
- left back
- right back
- winger
- (young hungry) striker

sell the following:
Reina - 5m
kelly - 0.5m
aspas - 4m
bornini - 7m
coates - 2m
allen - 8m
assaidi - 3m

approx 30m there.
 
Priority next season in order:
- CM
- left back
- right back
- winger
- (young hungry) striker

sell the following:
Reina - 5m
kelly - 0.5m
aspas - 4m
bornini - 7m
coates - 2m
allen - 8m
assaidi - 3m

approx 30m there.

Borini for 7mil? Hilarious!

He'd go for half that amount.
 
Borini for 7mil? Hilarious!

He'd go for half that amount.

granted 7m is prob at the high end of what we could get, but 3.5m is too low. he's young, works hard, and has scored the odd goal. I would be disappointed if we got less than 5/6m for him.
 
What I'm saying is that I agree that they're not exactly world class but they were better than Flanagan is now. We're talking about two players with bigger medal cabinets than Gerrard. They do deserve some respect despite being scum.
Having local lads is beneficial but it can only take you so far, you need some talent as well.

at 20 were they?
 
granted 7m is prob at the high end of what we could get, but 3.5m is too low. he's young, works hard, and has scored the odd goal. I would be disappointed if we got less than 5/6m for him.

Thats the problem....he does not score enough goals to warrant a high price tag...5 mil tops we'll get for him.
 
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