Our Harv.

[LarryHagman]

Villa are still a bit skint, I think.

Looks like Malen's been sold without consulting Emery hence his pissedoffness.

 

[dee]

Dave OC Kop suggesting McGinn's injury may force Villa's hand

 

[KopRed]

Nah, they won't pay 35m for him regardless.

Back when he played that few games he didn't impress anyway. He's not going to play.

 

[darkstarexodus]

They should play him if they're light, trigger the signing and then flip him in the summer.

Making Champions League should be top priority for them, both in terms of attracting/retaining players and generating revenue.

 

[dee]

They should play him if they're light, trigger the signing and then flip him in the summer.

Making Champions League should be top priority for them, both in terms of attracting/retaining players and generating revenue.

Exactly. They’re paying his wages whatever. It’s not like he’ll only be worth £10.15. He’s still young, English and very talented

Emery needs to coach him instead of trying to buy even more players

 

[Beamrider]

The thing is, Villa are past 31/12/2025 now, which I believe will have been their concern re FFP - they're probably fine under the super-generous PL rules but stuffed under UEFA's rules, but UEFA reporting is calendar year whereas PL is financial year (I think it's to June for Villa). That means that any impact on their ratios and reporting if they were to trigger the deal would now fall into UEFA's assessment for NEXT season, not the current one (where they almost certainly have issues which would get worse if they'd triggered the deal pre 31/12).
Which means if they did intend to buy him, they could trigger the deal now (and that was what I assumed they were planning to do originally - although I'd have expected them to have put more appearances on the buy obligation - they must have known they'd want to play him more than 10 times before the end of 2025, all being well).
The fact they're short of bodies and he's still not even on the bench suggests to me it's not about finances now, Emery mustn't fancy him.
They shafted our boy, the twats.

 

[mark1975]

The thing is, Villa are past 31/12/2025 now, which I believe will have been their concern re FFP - they're probably fine under the super-generous PL rules but stuffed under UEFA's rules, but UEFA reporting is calendar year whereas PL is financial year (I think it's to June for Villa). That means that any impact on their ratios and reporting if they were to trigger the deal would now fall into UEFA's assessment for NEXT season, not the current one (where they almost certainly have issues which would get worse if they'd triggered the deal pre 31/12).
Which means if they did intend to buy him, they could trigger the deal now (and that was what I assumed they were planning to do originally - although I'd have expected them to have put more appearances on the buy obligation - they must have known they'd want to play him more than 10 times before the end of 2025, all being well).
The fact they're short of bodies and he's still not even on the bench suggests to me it's not about finances now, Emery mustn't fancy him.
They shafted our boy, the twats.

And Slot has washed his hands of him, so they're both twats.

 

[Hansern]

Kamara is out for the season and Villa want to loan a replacement but they can't add a player unless another loanee leaves. Might set young Harv free.

 

[dee]

Tielemanns now long term injured too but looks like they're after a return for Douglas Luiz. He was on the bench on Sunday which might spark a bit of hope. Probably there in a similar capacity to Calvin Ramsey though

 

[King Binny]

"Harvey Elliott starts for AVFC for the first time in four months"


View: https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/2016945723674145169


View: https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/2016945862996365788

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

Huh, are they signing him?

 

[King Binny]

Huh, are they signing him?

This will be his 6th appearances for Aston Villa. The obligation to buy will trigger should he reach 10 appearances this campaign.

 

[Gerry_A_Trick]

Ah, thought it was closer than that, surprised they haven't used him before then.

 

[Modo]

I hope they play him for 9 games. We deserve that for doing such a bad deal.
Just like Milan or whoever did us with Aquilani.

 

[tomasjj]

I hope they play him for 9 games. We deserve that for doing such a bad deal.
Just like Milan or whoever did us with Aquilani.

Roma.

 

[Modo]

Roma.

No we loaned him out to Milan I think

 

[Richey]

No we loaned him out to Milan I think

We loaned him out to Juve and Milan.

Neither signed him as neither were as stupid as us.

 

[tomasjj]

No we loaned him out to Milan I think

We bought him from Roma, I meant.

 

[King Binny]

View: https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/2017007391783432225

View: https://x.com/StanCollymore/status/2016998058459091397

 

[mike2903]

Scored 7.86 (3rd overall) on the BBC vote so some appreciation from the Villa fans

 

[Hansern]

I hope they play him for 9 games. We deserve that for doing such a bad deal.
Just like Milan or whoever did us with Aquilani.

I don't think we are solely to blame for this deal..

 

[tomasjj]

Emery being a prick there.

 

[Richey]

I don't think we are solely to blame for this deal..

We're not to blame for Villa not playing him. Should be able to trust a club like that to behave properly.

It's our own fault though that there was no safeguard against it, such as a recall option. Also our fault that we played him unnecessarily early on when we would have known he was probably on his way.

 

[Hansern]

We're not to blame for Villa not playing him. Should be able to trust a club like that to behave properly.

It's our own fault though that there was no safeguard against it, such as a recall option. Also our fault that we played him unnecessarily early on when we would have known he was probably on his way.

Definitely our fault for playing him before moving him on. The no recall option seems to be standard for certain loan agreements and Villa would have to pay a compensation if they terminate it early.

He should have moved to a team were he would have been a guaranteed starter though.

 

[Modo]

Emery being a prick there.

Is he? He never wanted Harvey.
We did something similar with Kabak.

 

[Hansern]

Is he? He never wanted Harvey.
We did something similar with Kabak.

His comments aren't exactly flattering. Given we blast Slot for his attitude and pressers I'd do the same with Emery.
At least we know he isnt suited to be a Liverpool manager. If he was ever on a shortlist.

 

[Richey]

Is he? He never wanted Harvey.
We did something similar with Kabak.

In terms of not signing him at the end, yes, but Kabak did play in most of the games he was available for when he was here. I don't think we acted at all badly there.

 

[Richey]

Definitely our fault for playing him before moving him on. The no recall option seems to be standard for certain loan agreements and Villa would have to pay a compensation if they terminate it early.

He should have moved to a team were he would have been a guaranteed starter though.

True enough with the recall option.

In hindsight, of course he should have gone elsewhere, but I strongly suspect he would have been given the impression he'd be playing.

 

[Hansern]

Yeah, I'm guessing Monchi had another vision for that signing than Emery. Shame for Harv. Read from a Villa journo that Harvey is exemplary in his behavior. Training hard, polite, great pro and always at the home games even if he isnt in the squad.
People like him deserve much better.