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Had we not spunked a shit load of money on vanity projects we would have spent that on a better squad and may have had a bench last night meaning him and Nyoni could play in the u19s at times.
I don't think the players are the issue but the tactics and the manager
 
I agree that he should be playing at youth level for the sake of his development, but I genuinely wonder if he would agree if asked or given the choice.
I'm pretty sure any 17 year old would be delighted (even if he rarely gets on the pitch), and far happier training with world class stars week-in week-out, learning what works, what doesn't, and new skills and training methods, from established players and trainers, than going to Bolton to play their teenagers on a shitty pitch with 20 spectators.

IMHO he's going to be learning far faster in that environment than training and playing with lads his own age or just a year or two older.
 

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Rio Ngumoha played his first game in almost a month for Liverpool as he made his season’s bow for the U21s, while Luke Chambers made a long-awaited return.

Ngumoha has spent the entire season so far as part of Arne Slot‘s first-team squad, but that has seen the 17-year-old’s game time limited.

He has made eight appearances for the senior side, including a dream Premier League debut against Newcastle, but has only clocked 219 minutes on the pitch in four months.

His last competitive outing for the Reds was against Nottingham Forest on November 22.

That comes with Ngumoha not having been involved at all with any of the youth sides, despite being eligible for the U21s and U18s, as well as the U19s in the UEFA Youth League.

But that ended on Wednesday with a start for Rob Page’s U21s in their latest mid-season friendly – a 2-1 loss to OGC Nice at the AXA Training Centre.

Ngumoha played an hour and went close to scoring early on, but the visitors took a two-goal lead around the time he exited the pitch.


Another 17-year-old, Joe Bradshaw, got the goal for Liverpool, finishing well after being teed up by the busy Keyrol Figueroa.

Armin Pecsi started in goal in a side captained by Amara Nallo, with Trent Kone-Doherty, Michael Laffey, Josh Davidson, Carter Pinnington and Ben Trueman among those to feature.

Chambers came off the bench for the final half-hour to mark his first appearance since suffering a recurrence of a serious back injury in March.

The left-back, 21, was on loan at Wigan when he sustained the injury and has since focused on his recovery back at the AXA.

While his quality and experience would no doubt interest a host of clubs in the January transfer window, the likelihood is that he will stay with the U21s for the remainder of the season to focus on his fitness.
 
Yep, fair comp to Sterling; same playing style, although Sterling was still playing for the U21s at 16. Sterling was really pacy and favoured cutting into the box or along the 18-yard box edge from out wide and unleashing a shot. I think Sterling was maybe faster and definitely of lighter build; that's what surprises me about Ngumoha most, that he seems to have bulked up a bit this pre-season.

Ngumoha is showing great progress and he seems to get better with each pre-season game. Although I have to say that after he got his goal and assist yesterday, he was kept rather quiet as the opponents got to grips with his game and worked harder (sometimes with double cover) to shut him down. They succeeded in that, so that is a good lesson for Ngumoha.
Hopefully will be given more game time. According to Slot he has already played many matches for a boy of his age.
Lots of matches ahead this season.
He is a wonderful talent looking forward to seeing him during the season.
 
He's 17 and training with world class players - he's fine. That said I would like to see him get 10 mins here or there against tiring defenders.

Agreed, and it hasnt helped that we've been shit so far this season either. If we manage to get Semenyo then maybe a January loan move would be good for him and prepare him for next season.
 
We can't give him minutes because we'll be blocking his development by giving his minutes to himself.
 
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