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So who do we want/expect/hope?

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This tells me a few things. Namely Stand L will take me to Miami beach and Lincoln Road. There are clearly two photographers and also John Henry is a scruffy bugger!
 
Actually I did get that wrong way round, apols. I was going by memory of the pic I saw on my iPhone a few mins earlier.

Anyway, yes Zep, I would rock it. And well, I might add.
 
Genuinely worried about this appointment. I can't say i've ever once thought of Martinez as a future Liverpool manager or a Manager of one of the big Clubs in the League.

Yes he likes his team to play attractive football which is admirable but fact remains they've stayed up by the skin of their teeth in the last few seasons. Admittedly he's worked with a severly limited budget but Wigan have looked by far the worst side in the League on many, many occasions when he's been in charge. They've been absolutely hopeless at times and that's a concern as far as Martinez goes.

As his team's performances in the last 10 games or so of the season showed, Martinez is capable of finding a formation and getting his side playing well but is that really enough to warrant the attentions of Liverpool?

He comes across as a really nice bloke and if he's our next Manager then i'll back him 100% but as it stands now, i can't say i'm impressed with this.
 
Genuinely worried about this appointment. I can't say i've ever once thought of Martinez as a future Liverpool manager or a Manager of one of the big Clubs in the League.

Yes he likes his team to play attractive football which is admirable but fact remains they've stayed up by the skin of their teeth in the last few seasons. Admittedly he's worked with a severly limited budget but Wigan have looked by far the worst side in the League on many, many occasions when he's been in charge. They've been absolutely hopeless at times and that's worring as far as Martinez goes.

As his team's performances in the last 10 games or so of the season showed, Martinez is capable of finding a formation and getting his side playing well but is that really enough to warrant the attentions of Liverpool?

He comes across as a really nice bloke and if he's our next Manager then i'll back him 100% but as it stands now, i can't say i'm impressed with this.

The other worry is our better players may say thats enough and move on
 
well at the very least it will be interesting (for the month of august i suspect ) . FSG seem to really believe in this young 'up and coming' coach (it's obvious 'manager' is not the correct term) / Sporting director setup . They believe in it so much they've sacked a legend and also let Kenny go . Poor old damien he never deserved it !!

If they go this route then they surely know it's a massive gamble , fail and the fans will turn big style, well if they aren't already . I've not had any major issue with them so far but i'm not convinced by this at all .
 
The other worry is our better players may say thats enough and move on
FFS lad nothing has been set. Keep the faith. LFC do have a funny habit of surprising us all. That said if Martinez is appointed.... I'm going to hide from my rival fan supporting mates for at least a year. 🙁
 
As the only one who is close to being a decent footballer, I think Ryan is a perfecte example of why the game is in such crisis.

Metrosexuality is killing football.

LOL.

Anyway, back to the topic:

How many of you would have been happy to replace Kenny Dalglish with Roberto Martinez?
 
well at the very least it will be interesting (for the month of august i suspect ) . FSG seem to really believe in this young 'up and coming' coach (it's obvious 'manager' is not the correct term) / Sporting director setup . They believe in it so much they've sacked a legend and also let Kenny go . Poor old damien he never deserved it !!

If they go this route then they surely know it's a massive gamble , fail and the fans will turn big style, well if they aren't already . I've not had any major issue with them so far but i'm not convinced by this at all .


The DOF/ coach set up isn't much of a gamble. Its routinely used in the rest of Europe and the world. Its the reason why despite thre massive advantages enjoyed by English clubs, they will routinely do less than clubs, operating off smaller budgets.

I'd go so far as to say we've been the most wasteful club in the world for the lasy v five years.
 
Stephen Ireland likes small cars too. I can see a trend.
The DOF/ coach set up isn't much of a gamble. Its routinely used in the rest of Europe and the world. Its the reason why despite thre massive advantages enjoyed by English clubs, they will routinely do less than clubs, operating off smaller budgets.

I'd go so far as to say we've been the most wasteful club in the world for the lasy v five years.

It's a gamble if those putting it in place don't understand it and are treating it as a label.
 
Let's just say I didn't/don't want either.

I'll give Martinez the benefit of the doubt and all, but meh...

Yeah, I'm pretty much the same. Of all the apparent genuine candidates there's only one for me and that's Van Gaal. His record pisses on anyone else.
 
Yeah, I'm pretty much the same. Of all the apparent genuine candidates there's only one for me and that's Van Gaal. His record pisses on anyone else.

Yeah it's an ugly bunch. I'd take Rodgers, and I'm not even sure why.

If it's to be Martinez then alright I suppose. I couldn't wait to see Dalglish gone so it doesn't bother me, but I can definitely see why those who wanted KD to stay would be pretty fucking underwhelmed by Roberto Martinez as his replacement.
 
The DOF/ coach set up isn't much of a gamble. Its routinely used in the rest of Europe and the world. Its the reason why despite thre massive advantages enjoyed by English clubs, they will routinely do less than clubs, operating off smaller budgets.

the setup isn't my main concern, i'm well aware of what european teams do and the advantages of it . It's the personnel which are concerning me and the fact FSG really seem intent on this 'up and coming ' coach thing rather than just getting the best man regardless of age or the current stage of his career .

i'd really love to know who is advising them , who pointed them to martinez in the 1st place ? was it this beane chap cause his last recommendation went well !!!
 
I feel exactly the same way bro! 🙂
Anyways Rafa ain't going to happen in a million years so that need not worry us.

JH "So Tom , have you got your file on Raafa Benitez?"

TW "Sure have JH"....shoves beige cardboard file over desk to The Lying Rag-glass bespectacled Henry

JH *reading intently " Wow it says he caused some shit at Valencia Tom"

TW "He certainly did JH they bought him a fucking lamp and he wanted a fucking sofa!"...."WTF?"

JH "Yeah, and it tells us about all the shit we know went on at Liverpool Tom....What's Machiavellian mean?" Haha he fucked those two chancers around something terrible"
TW "Sure did JH, lucky for him everyone hated that cowboy so much they missed what he managed to fuck-up though"

JH "So he went and managed in Italy , with his pedigree he must have done really well there, and they had a great team they had just won the Champions League, Serie A and the Italian cup is that right Tom"

TW "Is right JH, they were flying the season before he took over"

JH "Tom, Tom this must be wrong.........It says here he fucked it up and got sacked after six months after making waves with yet another owner, this time over unrealistic demands for back him or sack him, fucking Morriati only went and sacked him...... Did he ever get his fucking Sofa?"

TW "So you see the problem some of our fans have short memories JH, we can't dismiss the idea of him coming back out of hand but need to pretend we were a teeny bit interested. Apparently he is a good guy and really loves the place, but I don't think we need all that shit JH, we have those SoS dip-sticks to contend with as it is."

JH "File closed Tom, get that funny German guy in, the little Spaniard has gone to the cleaners to try and get coffee off his beige pants and white shirt, or was that white pants and beige shirt? ........... any rate he has no fucking dress sense and looks like some gay guy camping it up . I tell you something though Tom that fucking space-cake stuff that the dutch guy gave me went really well with that coffee I had, lets hire him he can bring the recipe with him, we can give it to the team at half time with their tea, it made me feel like a million bucks.............."
TW "Hmmmmmm get back to you on that one JH"
 
the setup isn't my main concern, i'm well aware of what european teams do and the advantages of it . It's the personnel which are concerning me and the fact FSG really seem intent on this 'up and coming ' coach thing rather than just getting the best man regardless of age or the current stage of his career .

i'd really love to know who is advising them , who pointed them to martinez in the 1st place ? was it this beane chap cause his last recommendation went well !!!
Davie Dein has supposedly been advising and was being suggested as the CEO or whatever
 
If I were FSG I'd be bending over backwards to get Van Gaal. The vast majority of fans would be happy with that. If he turned down the job I'd go for Rafa. He's likely to get them the CL place and if he bombed they could turn round and say we gave you what you wanted, it didn't work, now shut the fuck up and we'll do it our way.
 
I love how this thread goes round in circles.
It always happens Red, once you get past about twenty pages the same thing keeps getting said over and over again in s different way by different people, I suppose it's part of the make up of forums really.
You watch any moment now someone will say that Martinez is a nice guy but it's a bit of a risk as he doesn't have much experience and they are not sure if it would be a good idea to appoint him.....not that it hasn't been said at least a hundred times before in this thread 😉

regards
 
If I were FSG I'd be bending over backwards to get Van Gaal. The vast majority of fans would be happy with that. If he turned down the job I'd go for Rafa. He's likely to get them the CL place and if he bombed they could turn round and say we gave you what you wanted, it didn't work, now shut the fuck up and we'll do it our way.
I think I would agree with you, but I think it's LVG and Martinez, which I think would be interesting, old head to guide the young promising manager, who knows , lets just see what FSG come up with.
Although if Mark says Klop that can't be ignored. 😉

regards
 
LOL, just reading through the last few pages! Why are people getting so worked up about that picture? Thanks to Whelan we've known for ages that Martinez is a candidate and would be meeting with Henry in Florida, then people see a picture of the two of them in Florida - having a meeting - and all hell breaks loose. Mental.
 
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